Stupid Times Squared = Guardian

On the day of 911, I was awoken by a call from a friend back East telling me a plane hit the WTC.

It was around 5 30 AM my time, I said “OK Sure” and went back to sleep.

She called me back once more knowing this hasn’t registered with me enough, being still in slumber and forced me to turn the TV on.


Around noon and already immersed into CNN, another friend came to visit me. He was of Lebanese Christian background and I recall him yelling out of his car “Hezbollah!!” as he was approaching my driveway. He used to do this when he was expressing shock, displeasure or dismay. It was his personal curse word. He told me he just came from the Donair shop we always frequented when downtown to see movies or shopping. He told me that the shop owner, a Lebanese Muslim, was cursing at the TV in front of his customers saying “I know this was an (expletive) Arab who did this and now we are doomed, the world will hate us. Needless to say, I still love this guy’s falafel, the best in town among the Arab style falafels. (Israeli and Greek falafels are different as are their pitas). He is a sweet man as is his overworked family hustling this product from morning until late night from a 250 sft spot always with a smile and always with his accompanied complaints about rising rents, rainy weather and hard to come by reliable help.

When I was researching this piece about the Guardian’s stupid response to the Time Square attack I wanted to look at the writers whose pieces the Guardian published on the subject.

Was I delighted in more ways than one…

One of them was Wajahat Ali, a Pakistani American writer whose piece Against Terror, our liberty is our best defense. appeared on Cif a day after the arrest.
His Guardian piece reads like…well a Guardian piece.

An attack piece on “right wing” Americans who now will come after Muslims like never before. Of course 9 years ago close to 3000 people died a few blocks away from the parked smoking Pathfinder and none of the fears of revenge attacks have materialized. Still the writer goes through the events of the last few terrorist attempts on America using the typical code language diminishing the reality of the origin of these attacks. The “mentally disturbed” Nidal Hasan, the “Nigerian Student” Underwear bomber and the FBI “entrapped” Pakistani Americans caught joining a terror group in their old country. He goes into a great straw man argument alleging that Sarah Palin will come out swinging or something:

“Sarah Palin and her ilk will argue passionately on Fox News to “profile away” evil-doers – in effect, advocating racial profiling of ethnic minorities, especially of Middle Easterners and South Asians. Anticipating public anxiety, Obama reacted to calls for “greater security” following the failed Christmas Day bombing by implementing catch-all measures – recently amended – to extend special pat-downs and heightened profiling to individuals returning from 14, mostly Muslim, countries.

Despite overwhelming evidence showing that racial profiling and the erosion of civil liberties and due process are counterproductive in fighting terrorism, I worry that fear and divisive rhetoric will be used to undermine the mutual trust and co-operation that has been painstakingly built over the past two years between American Muslims and law enforcement agencies.”

Ignorant statements to say the least. But I guess an attack on Sarah Palin will always work. Bush with lipstick is what she became and now she is preemptively attacked in supposedly hated Bush fashion for statements she never even made. Neither did she make them since. Of course there is no overwhelming evidence of racial profiling not working. Because there is no racial profiling. There is terrorist profiling which does contain religious and ethnic elements among a long list of other signs security officials look at when they check our bags, walk through the detector and stand in front of customs upon arrival. Nether is there any mutual trust between security agencies and Muslim groups. The FBI dropped its liaisons efforts with CAIR when they finally realized CAIR had no interest in the safety of Americans but an interest in advancing the Muslim Brotherhood agenda in America and advised Muslim Americans not to co-operate with the police before contacting CAIR first.

I would have dismissed Wajahat Ali as just another Guardian crank had it not been for finding his other, much better articulated and insightful piece in Salon, which he also ran in a blog he edits called Goatmilk. In there he has a piece written really from the perspective of a Pakistani American Muslim finding out that another Pakistani Muslim has been involved in a terror attack.

He writes:

“A Muslim born and raised in America with Pakistani parents, I was the “token” at early age. Growing up, I was like any other socially awkward, overweight, dorky American kid who wanted to date Alyssa Milano and beat Contra on my Nintendo without using the secret, unlimited life code — except my T-shirts were smeared with turmeric and lentil stains instead of PB and J, and in place of Lunchables my mom fed me homemade, green-colored, lamb patty burgers. I was the kid comfortable with all his identities — Muslim, American, Pakistani — and as such, I became the one people consulted when uncomfortable questions had to be asked, or misconceptions and stereotypes needed to be explained.”…

I too used to have a secret crush on Alissa Milano. Watched whole episodes of Who’s the Boss while being totally annoyed by Tony Danza and the rest of the cast. Only to see Alissa. She did age well I might add. A gorgeous lady today as she was a heart throb back then.

A word of advice to Ali: If he wants to condemn negative stereotyping of Muslims and Pakistanis, he better argue for that without negatively stereotyping Americans in that process.

“…America has a long tradition of scapegoating (see African Americans, Jews, Irish and Japanese Americans), in which the criminal and moral bankruptcy of a few perverse individuals becomes an archetype for multitudes.”

Ali goes on:

…”After news of the averted attack, I was hit with a blitzkrieg of texts, Facebook updates and gchat pings. Friends from varying backgrounds — Mexican-American, African-American, Arab-American — wanted to know what I thought about another “Rage Boy” foolishly attempting to commit violence with an amateurish terror plot. Several made a similar confession: How glad they were that the suspect didn’t belong to “their tribe.” What I did know, with a sinking feeling, was that many moderate, peaceful Pakistani Muslims like me were further doomed to collective mistrust and suspicion.”.

This reveals the true nature of the fear among decent Muslims of discovering that another of their coreligionists has just caused a terrorist incident. The so called sinking feeling reminds me of the Lebanese falafel store owner who basically suspected like many others that indeed Muslims/Arabs were behind the 911 attack.

If even Muslims’ first instinct is to suspect other Muslims after an incident like this then one has to wonder why the rest of us need to be force fed the idiocy of suspecting the Tea Party, the right wing militias and opponents to socialized medicine. The moronic diatribes following this attack, and other similar attacks are as much an insult to Muslims as they are to the rest of us. Let alone insults to intelligence itself.

This brings us to the other silly and probably completely nonsensical and moronic article about the Time Square Pathfinder bomber, Time Square bomb plot: Don’t rush to judgment by Robert Dreyfuss.

A writer for the far left rag, The Nation, known for its communist subversion during the 50s and being home to the most radical left of the brain writers of which Dreyfuss seems to be no exception. The funny thing is that he is actually a LaRouchian. Far from the left and closer to the lunatic far right. The fact that the Guardian commissioned its first piece on this new event from such a clown is quite telling to say the least. The joke was on Robert and the Guardian as the piece came out accusing the Tea Party (no rushing to judgment there I suppose) when the news was already reporting on the arrested suspect, Faisal Shahzad.

For those unfamiliar with the Larouche movement, it is a conspiracy club founded by Lyndon Larouche, a former Reagan administration official involved in the Star Wars space arms program who had a falling out with Reagan and also reality.

They are well funded and have a strong presence in France and the USA where they publish magazines and newspapers.

They can be found at any protest march, even used to have kiosks at airports next to the krishnas. They were at those famous anti-Bush and anti-war marches and also crashed the Tea Party protests and those now infamous town hall meetings Obama called to discuss his health care plan.

The essence of their conspiracies are founded upon the belief that Britain still controls the USA via MI5, the Free Masons, Satan worshipers, abortion providers, Columbian drug cartels (that way Her Majesty is drugging the youth of America) and of course Zionists. Amusing stuff for pot smoking university students needing a good laugh and messianic truth for the movement’s adherents. I always wondered how can they get so much funding and so much exposure, being the lunatic fringe club they are.

-Telling of the world we live in for sure.

For the Guardian to lead the Time Square story by deploying such a freak is another of their face loss moments.

” But it seems far more likely to me that the perpetrator of the bungled Times Square bomb plot was either a lone wolf or a member of some squirrely branch of the Tea Party, anti-government far right. Which actually exists in Connecticut, where, it seems, the car’s licence plates were stolen.”

Gee thanks Inspector Cluseau…sorry Chief Inspector Cluseau…what a brilliant natural police mind you have.

They “exist” in Connecticut where the license plate is from. Wow. So Larouche this line of thinking is. Reflecting the moronic reasoning behind the various outlandish conspiracy theories this AGAIN surprisingly well funded group is peddling, drugging the minds of Guardian youth in this case.

As someone who has been guilty of a sick hobby of reading about terrorist and extremist groups, I can confidently say that the whole idea that any so called American Patriot Militia would mass murder people in Time Square is so wrong and baseless that it merits a little sidetrack into American Patriot Militias.

These groups, not all racist or antisemitic nor religious, though many of them are openly so, originate in the American revolution when the young recently declared independent republic was defended by a mixed group of locally raised volunteer militias as America was then absent of a real army. To those on the American far or extreme right, the idea that the Federal Government would institute any policy without the explicit consent of the respective state(s) is treasonous. They base this upon the treaties the Continental Congress negotiated with the 13 colonies later becoming the founding states of the USA which stipulated their commitments to defending the revolution with their respective militias in exchange for help by the new republic which was usually through payments of grants and salaries to fighters. Generally helping each other out across state lines. Back then states awarded US citizenship to immigrants, not the Feds. That was also one of the grievances of the Confederates, the issue of who can award citizenship as until the 1860s, states had that authority.

From these treaties grew the Constitution and also its 2nd Amendment, which calls for ” an armed citizenry… and a well regulated militia”.

What they actually got was the National Guard which is the volunteer reserve Army and under the command of state governors. These groups see the establishment of the National Guard as insufficient to satisfying the second amendment and resent the Federal Army and the Federal Agencies (especially armed ones) on their soil. Those on the left point to the National Guard as a reason and justification for disallowing the ownership of guns by Americans, except to members of the National Guard. Hence the gun debate and the militias mostly clashing with the Federal Government over gun issues.

The only way these groups resemble jihadis is that they too, have among them some very intelligent or wealthy yet creepy individuals, experts in combat skills and other trades as well as a bunch of buffoons in need of a girlfriend or more exercise. They will not attack Americans unless they work for the federal government. In Oklahoma City, their intent was to time the bomb to go off before the children showed up to the daycare (which was for children of employees). McVeigh miscalculated and the rest is history. Of course, in the minds of these people killing a mother of a 2 year old is OK as long as she works for the government but killing her kid is not. Oh well.

In short, these are populist, isolationist movements who despise the federal government and the international agreements it signs which are seen to limit national sovereignty (some of them are actually) and want to rally the people to this cause, Thus they are not likely to attack civilians in a tourist area. That would be 100% contrary to their objectives, which is to rally Americans to defeating the Federal Government. They would attack government buildings and international institutions like the IMF, World Bank and the UN. As they did in Oklahoma 15 years ago last month. Seeing so called experts mix them up with the Tea Party shows the level of nasty propaganda some in the media have succumbed to distributing of late.

Jihadis aim to kill masses. Why is it so hard to understand that?

They are trying so hard to convince us themselves, each time they kill or try to kill as many people as possible!

It is natural that an article linking the Tea Party with a car bomb is gobbled up by the editors of the Guardian. They must have been salivating at the idea, no matter how off base, of the American Right being linked to an incompetent mass terror attempt.

The blind leading the ignorantly blind. Or call it the cluster of stupid thoughts.

I am sure they would have even mentioned that stupid Sarah Palin must have been the one who built the ineffective bomb made up of household chemicals, firecrackers, fertilizer and gasoline. (Drill Baby Drill huh!!)

Of course the bomb was no silly rig as portrayed. The ingredients were perfectly selected for New York City which is equipped with radiation and bomb sniffing sensors, K-9 and otherwise. It could have killed dozens and injured hundreds changing that magical place forever. There goes the expertise of the so-called reporter experts who get paid for sitting in a chair babbling about bull crap wondering how come less and less believe or trust them. The self sacrificial nature of self righteousness is amazing.

On goes Dreyfuss, confabulating some more because it seems even he feels somewhere in his gut that this might after all be another Jihad attack. At least that is what this next passage sounds like:

“As always, it is important to point out that even if the Times Square bombing turns out to be the work of jihadist zealots, it shows that as an enemy they rank about on a par with the guy who crashed his plane into the IRS building. President Obama took the opportunity to proclaim his vigilance and his determination to track down the perpetrator and to keep America safe.”

Oh really. Jihad ranks equal to the guy who killed a night watchman in the IRS building. This is getting better. One victim vs over 3000 on American soil alone is on par. I can just imagine Dreyfuss on the golf course. Robert you must be on par with Mike Wier because you once hit the green with your first shot.

What a magical game that could be.

-Or not as he may think golf is a secret MI5 plot to install landing pads for Satanist British Intel UFOs for the final occupation and enslavement of the free.

27 replies »

  1. Alchemist


    The attempt to blame others for the attempted outrage was avoidant, premature and thinly based on the Oklahoma reality. Hence this article is accurate in many respects. The CIF article lacked the gravitas the situation demanded.

    However the statement here that the Oklahoma bombers ” intent was to time the bomb to go off before the children showed up ” is apologetic and trivialises the fact that you dont take a truck with half a ton of explosives into a city and hope it doesnt kill any kids.

    Finally the use of 9 11 as a exemplar of bad things happening to the US is shaky. In 1944 the US lost 3k people each week without losing its soul… attacking innocent people and jailing suspects in conditions of barbarity. They allowed the Nazis trials…the Soviets wanted to kill tens of thousands.. but the US was a beacon of hope for the world.

    Not now it aint.

  2. From Wajahet Ali’s thread “We Americans must keep our head”

    It’s quite impossible to keep your head when there are Pakistani Islamists who are hell bent on blowing your head off.

    Trying to blow your head,and as many other heads as possible.

    What’s with these Pakistani’s,when they are not killing people in India,they are trying to kill people in America.

  3. Very Nice article.

    – What troubles me with the attacks on U.S. policy vis-à-vis the war on terror is not the criticism itself, as one-sided as it may be, but the fact that in addition to it, you never- never- hear or read about self-criticism in Muslim cultures, or by Muslims.

    I have never read an article by a Muslim condemning their society’s ills that produced this kind of hatred, violence, repression, and social and economic retardation.

    Opinions like the Guardian’s- that these things are all the West’s fault, products of the WTO, globalization, and government support of some Arab dictators, like Mubarak and the Gulf sultans- are just weakening the very few calls for self-scrutiny in these countries, by pushing a patronizing Orientalist view.

    – Suspecting the Tea Party is incendiary and ridiculous, but some far-right militias are dangerous and have a history of these sorts of high profile terror spectacles. There have been a few (minor) plots foiled since Oklahoma.

    I wouldn’t dismiss the resemblance to Jihadis in their absolute, nihilist worldview sense. But objectively, they are far less in numbers, and far less inclined to produce mass death for their goals.

  4. FoolMeOnce

    ..but the fact that in addition to it, you never- never- hear or read about self-criticism in Muslim cultures, or by Muslims.

    Let me disagree. Ayan Hirshi Ali and Wafa Sultan are maybe the most well known names but there are many others.
    The problem is that they are vilified not only by the majority of Muslims but the Western left (e.g. Guardian) too, their criticism and suggestions to reform are considered racist etc.

  5. The Guardian is doing its best to break the link between the two concepts “Islamic” and “Terrorism” .

    But as evidence emerges about who is responsible for each new atrocity the link becomes ever stronger in the public mind. The Guardian is losing the battle, and becoming an object of derision in the process.

  6. “The Guardian is doing its best to break the link between the two concepts “Islamic” and “Terrorism”.

    And so is Obama.

  7. Is there a news blackout,on the Fort Hood shooting suspect.This guy killed 13 and wounded 31 at Fort Hood,yet we have heard nothing more about it.

    It’s as if it never happened.Just imagine if it was one of us that did that dirty deed.

    The Guardian would have gone berserk on it.

    BTW,the shooter was a palestinian,wasn’t he??

  8. Alchemist

    I think that the “don’t rush to judgment – probably the perpetrator was a rightwing American” article was relatively moderate.
    I expected something more robust like this: “Probably the Mossad did it using false American passports – the perpetrator could be a false Pakistani maybe he is an Israeli agent whose features have been changed using illegally harvested Muslim bodyparts.” or a better alternative: “In according to reliable high ranking police sources (the Dubai chief of police) three Hebrew speaking men have been seen on the crime scene laughing and taking pictures in front of the Marquis theatre.”


    Ayaan Hirshi Ali is a hero.. What I find special in her story is the behaviour and disgraceful treason of the Dutch society and especially Rita Verdonk then a government minister. The life of Ali is not only the story of an African Muslim woman but the moral deterioration and losses of humanist values in the heart of Europe.
    Her book about her life The Infidel is a must read.

  9. peterthehungarian-

    On your earlier post about there being self-criticism in the Muslim world you cited Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Wafa Sultan as examples. Both are courageous, but both made a break with Islam. How many Muslims, who are still actively part of the religion, are courageous enough to engage in honest, soul-searching criticism of Islam and Muslim societies?

  10. terry malloy


    “How many Muslims, who are still actively part of the religion, are courageous enough to engage in honest, soul-searching criticism of Islam and Muslim societies? ”

    Few.There would be a lot more if they were not being attacked all over the world.. if not by bullet then by tongue. 2 major wars…laws across Europe…in the press..they are even blamed by some for their displacement in the ME.

    It drives people together. kaes them tough. People on this site should know that more than most.

  11. Terry

    Sorry that should read “It drives people together Makes them tough “

  12. terry malloy, very few, if any, Muslims dare criticise Islam or Muslim societies. The latter, being shame and honour cultures, depend on cultural and societal pressure as well as superstition, threats of and actual violence and subservience and blind obedience to keep the waywardly-inclined in line. You must remember what happened when one thinking Muslim, Salman Rushdie, dared to think for himself or even to satire Islam. Islam, being rigid and authoritarian can brook no criticism.

    The main stumbling block to being able to deal with such criticism may be the Islamic cultural imperative that a Muslim’s prime loyalty should be to the Muslim community, the umma, particularly when it is perceived to be under threat from outside.

    The concept of umma, or the sense of belonging to the worldwide Islamic community, is one of the chief principles of Islam. This actively discourages the observant Muslim from interacting freely with the wider community. Being a Muslim places some unique pressures on the observant Muslim. One of them is an insistence upon loyalty to the umma and emulation of their prophet and because the Islamic prophet believed that everyone else would ultimately betray him, the Qur’an constantly warns the Muslim of the evils of the mushrikun and kafirun and clearly states, in typically dichotomous, authoritarian and absolutist terms:

    “….Believers, do not seek the friendship of the infidels (kafirun) and those who were given the Book before you, who have made your religion a jest and a diversion. 5:56

    “Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. 66:9 “

    The introjected value is, therefore, that every practising Muslim’s loyalty should be to his religion and other Muslims first, and to any other state or political entity second. Furthermore, a true believer of Islam should not follow the rules and customs of other governments unless they are in accord with Islamic law (shari’a). Where they are not, then shari’a law must be adhered to. It is not difficult to imagine the difficulties this may present to the 1.3 billion Muslims who may be living in secular states throughout the world.

    As I said above, Islamic society is inclined towards the shame-based and emphasises submission – to the will of Allah, to the Muslim clerics, to the wishes of the umma. Alongside the susceptibility to shame is a preoccupation with dishonour, a state to which women are thought to be particularly prone, and honour killings of women abound, often on the flimsiest of pretexts, because of real or imagined transgressions against the family’s status. We hear of mothers killing their daughters for having been raped, and brothers their sisters for having gone off with a man of whom they disapproved. (Hamas has made particular use of this by deliberately seducing young Palestinian women and offering them the chance to restore their family honour by becoming suicide murderers). The perpetrators of honour killings are rarely punished, and where they are, the punishments are token (Hadidi et al, 2001).

    Because this total submission and fear of reprisal is phobically induced and introjected from the early years, it is inimical to the development of a sense of personal responsibility for the outcomes of the decisions such Muslims make, they resort to magical thinking, “hidden hand” conspiracy explanations for whatever ills befall them, and to blaming outside influences or imagined plots for their ills rather than being able to see the part their own decisions and actions have played in such outcomes. The continued situation in Gaza is a case in point.

    The real pity is that they are so well-versed in the hostility I have written about elsewhere that they are able to dupe and manipulate the ignorant and the already hate-filled elsewhere to support their distorted sense of themselves.

  13. Hi terry,

    You are correct to say that both of them left the religion, but both of them started with wanting to reform the religion and when they realized that this is impossible then gave it up. As far as I know when they started to criticise certain aspects of their religion they were definitely Muslims.

  14. terry malloy

    How many Muslims, who are still actively part of the religion, are courageous enough to engage in honest, soul-searching criticism of Islam and Muslim societies?

    Terry. I despise Islam but not Muslims per see.

    Following is a link to a ‘speech’ by a Muslim in Canada who I could be quite happy living next door too even if he wasn’t pro Zionist because of his seemingly complete absence of bigotry and hypocrisy.

  15. It took me a while to realise what “Donair” is. I initially thought it was some sports show brand. I kid you not.

    Anyway: what’s all the above got to do with anti-Semitism on CiF?

  16. An attack piece on “right wing” Americans

    When it comes to anti-American sentiment, it’d be hard to beat the following on Bilal Baloch’s “dumb bomber” thread:

    US citizens are able to vote for their government they are all collectively guilty of mass murder and child slaughter. There are no innocent Americans, just auto-propagandised war criminals. … to hit any of us hard on the back of the head with a hammer is an entirely justified act of self defence.

    Summat wrong upstairs with this ‘un.

  17. Alchemist, thanks for the enjoyable and informative read! The LaRouche respectabililty on the left is really an interesting point.

    Peter, with your brilliant ideas for articles, you should apply at the Graun as commissioning editor…

  18. Alchemist,

    Your criticism of various CIF writers for prematurely blaming right-wingers for the bombing attempt is on the mark but I think that you are wrong to rule out on principle the possibility of such an attack from right-wing extremists. Neither you nor anyone else can guarantee that no right-wing splinter group or individual will get it into their heads that killing a bunch of people in the middle of New York City might be the thing to do. After 911, there were neo-Nazi groups celebrating the massive killing in what they called “Jew York” and bemoaning the fact that it was not their movement that did it. Extremist movements evolve in unpredictable ways and the individuals on their fringes even more so.

    On the subject of the bizarre careers of extremists, Lyndon LaRouche was a raving right-wing conspiracy theorist long before the Reagan administration. (BTW, I think that the claim that he was an “official” in the Reagan administration is probably no more than that, a claim manufactured by him and his followers to make him look more respectable.) LaRouche actually started out on the Trotskyist left in New York City in the fifties. He had a small group around him that he led in a more and more sectarian and paranoid direction until, by 1973, their principal activity consisted of physical attacks on other left groups, especially the mostly elderly and powerless Communist Party. Soon thereafter, or maybe even before, his group began forming partnerships with groups that were clearly part of the traditional extreme right. Since then, he has generally been considered a (extremely idiosyncratic) part of the far right.

  19. Heres to Davy.

    “is apologetic and trivialises the fact that you dont take a truck with half a ton of explosives into a city and hope it doesnt kill any kids. ”

    It isn’t apologetic nor an attempt to trivialize anything. It is fact. If they wanted to kill kids, there were better targets for that.

    “In 1944 the US lost 3k people each week without losing its soul… attacking innocent people and jailing suspects in conditions of barbarity. They allowed the Nazis trials…the Soviets wanted to kill tens of thousands.. but the US was a beacon of hope for the world. ”

    That is true but those were soldiers not civilians within US borders.

    Not since Pearl Harbor has to US lost so many on US soil. Probably not since the civil war did civilians die on US soil in large numbers.
    The Japanese did not target civilians at PH either.
    Few Nazis got trials, almost all terrorists do today. Be assured this guy will also.
    The Soviets wanted to kill America, true, but they failed, in part due to the anti-communist efforts at home and abroad and their failed economic and social systems.


    Donair is what the Greeks call Gyros. I believe it is the Turkish term.
    It is the ground meat stuff rolling on the grill and shaved like shawarma which is slices of meat on the same turning spit.

    You re right there was no antisemitism on either of those threads, though many would argue the Larouchian movement to be antisemitic. Personally I think they are well beyond that, they hate/fear/accuse/smear so many nations/people/interests that Jews and Zionists being among them no longer makes them exclusive. For the G to commission a piece from one of their most prominent propagandists is either telling or reveals another major lapse of judgment which was probably due to the tempting nature of the piece they posted from Dreyfuss.
    Larouchians are probably so anti-British that it would not surprise me that they would even qualify for hate speech in some places. They accuse the Queen of worshiping Satan and being responsible for pretty much every war in the world as well as the drug problems in America and Europe.

    Also if you notice how this story was dealt with as compared to e.g. the Dubai story, or even the stories about the US right wing, one can easily see where the Guardian’s sympathies lie.
    They will go to the greatest lengths to defend Muslims acts while would jump like pavlovian hounds upon the slightest story going the opposite way.
    This does fit in with their world view that Islamic terrorists are somehow fighting the same fight the Left is.
    What I was trying to illustrate was how fast they can throw out due diligence when ideology tempts.

  20. “you are wrong to rule out on principle the possibility of such an attack from right-wing extremists. Neither you nor anyone else can guarantee that no right-wing splinter group or individual will get it into their heads that killing a bunch of people in the middle of New York City might be the thing to do”

    I m not guaranteeing anything but any logic and precedent would show what I wrote in the piece. These groups may attack and may kill civilians but their targets are not masses of people. If their target is the Jew than they attack Jews. Like the geriatric Nazi who attacked the Holocaust Museum or Buford Furlow who attacked a Jewish school in LA.
    However most of these groups are not Nazis, they are opposed to Nazis and see the Federal Government as Nazis. Again, the confusion is a media image which often links together so called Patriot Militias with Nazi groups. Ideologically Nazism to them is the greatest enemy, being a statist-socialist ideology.

  21. terry malloy and Mitnaged and other may be interested in the following:

    The reformist Arab diplomat who writes under the pseudonym Abu Ahmad Mustafa wrote in 2003:

    “We have become accustomed to not asking questions and not searching for the truth. We must examine our history, our books, and our stories with an open mind without hatred and blaming of the other. “Islam is the solution”, is not true. Islam is not the answer. It is hidden in sick minds brainwashed with hatred for the brethren living nearby and peoples living miles away. How can an intelligent person state or assert that we are a nation that preaches love among people, when in our own home we carry out ugly deeds and are silent about the disgrace? What is to blame is the culture of submission which comes from the clerics of past and the idols of today. Our struggles are connected to the past, not to health, not to education, not to human rights, not to general freedoms and political reform.”

    (source: al-Sharq Al-Awsat (London), September 13, 2003; MEMRI, September 26, 2003, No. 579.)

    An intelligent and critical thinker, but why did he write under a pseudonym? Most likely because his ideas and criticisms of Islam and its adherents and leaders would have put him and his family in mortal danger.

    Authoritarian regimes cannot cope with differing opinions and questioning of their methods.

  22. The Alchemist

    “The Japanese did not target civilians at PH either.”

    You are not seriously trying to compare the threats. One was a major power gone apeshit… the other an idiot with a hundred pounds of explosive.