David Ward disciplined by Lib Dems after Tweet about Israel’s inevitable imposion


We posted recently about the following July 13th Tweet by David Ward, the Liberal Democrat MP who had lectured Jews (on Holocaust Memorial Day in January) for inflicting atrocities on others and thus failing to learn the right moral lessons from the Nazi genocide.

Well, it was reported about an hour ago that, due to his comments about Jews on Holocaust Memorial Day, as well as his most recent Tweet, Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg and chief whip Alistair Carmichael met with Ward and decided to withdraw his party whip, essentially temporarily suspending him from the parliamentary party.

Here’s the letter by chief whip Alistair Carmichael to Ward:

David Ward MP
House of Commons
LONDON
SW1A 0AA

17th July, 2013

Thank you for coming to see Nick, Simon and me this afternoon.

You will recall that we discussed the report of your two meetings with the group convened by Simon, which included Jewish colleagues. As Nick indicated to you, that report was a largely positive one. In particular we were all pleased to note that you appreciated the need to use language in this debate that was proportionate and precise.

It was therefore with immense disappointment that we were presented with your public comment made on 13th July on Twitter in the following terms:

“Am I wrong or are am I right? At long last the #Zionists are losing the battle – how long can the #apartheid State of #Israel last?”

We were in unanimous agreement that questioning the continued existence of the State of Israel fails the test of language that is “proportionate and precise”.

We want to be clear with you that in this process we are not concerned about your views and opinions on the policies of present or previous Israeli governments, nor the situation in the Israeli-occupied territories, nor the strength of feeling with which your views are held. As we have sought to impress upon you repeatedly, we are having to decide on whether language you chose to use in January and February, and now this month, is language which brings the party into disrepute or harms the interests of the Party.

During the meeting, we put it to you that your most recent statement – which specifically questions the continuing existence of the State of Israel – is neither proportionate nor precise. Unfortunately, we considered your explanation to be unconvincing and it did not satisfy us that you understood the importance of conducting the debate on this issue at all times and in all places in terms that are proportionate and precise.

We wish to reiterate that this is not about telling you what your views should be. Indeed, we have all visited the occupied territories and we have all experienced an instinctive and liberal reaction to the humanitarian suffering we have witnessed. You will know that Nick, Simon and I have a consistent track record of being outspoken about illegal settlement activities of Israeli governments and the threat this poses to the two-state solution for which the party has long argued.

It is also immensely frustrating for us to find ourselves constantly responding to questions about disproportionate and imprecise language from you. These interventions cause considerable offence rather than addressing questions of political substance about the plight of the Palestinian people and the right of Israel’s citizens to live a life free of violence. It is extraordinarily difficult to gain traction in that debate at an effective political level if the expression of our concerns is undermined by the way your language misrepresents the view of our party.

Whilst we understand you have your own views about this process, which has been long and complicated, we also hope you recognise that we have given you every opportunity to reconcile the expression of your views with the party’s policy on a two-state solution. Unfortunately, you have not been able to do that.

Therefore, it is with regret that I have to inform you that we have decided to suspend the Liberal Democrat whip from you. This period of suspension will be with immediate effect until 13th September inclusive. I very much regret that it has been necessary to take this action.

Yours ever,

Alistair Carmichael

We had noted in our earlier post that even the Guardian failed to come to Ward’s defense after his Holocaust remarks. 

29 comments on “David Ward disciplined by Lib Dems after Tweet about Israel’s inevitable imposion

    • Interesting point, but if that is correct, why not resign the whip & announce his defection. Too cowardly?

  1. WWe want to be clear with you that in this process we are not concerned about your views and opinions on the policies of present or previous Israeli governments, nor the situation in the Israeli-occupied territories, nor the strength of feeling with which your views are held. As we have sought to impress upon you repeatedly, we are having to decide on whether language you chose to use in January and February, and now this month, is language which brings the party into disrepute or harms the interests of the Party.”

    Be an AntiSemite, think like one but keep your trap shut…

    • Where is there any suggestion that they are talking about anti-Semitism as opposed to criticism of Israeli policy?

      Clegg and Carmichael are also Jew haters?

      • Where is there any suggestion that they are talking about anti-Semitism as opposed to criticism of Israeli policy?
        They are talking about what they think is necessary to win more Muslim votes.
        Clegg and Carmichael are also Jew haters
        I don’t know but I doubt that they hate anybody (with the exception of their electoral opponents) and love anybody (with the exception of themselves)

  2. The current leadship of the Lib Dems is racist and possibly would have supported Apartheid South Africa as it does racist Israel

  3. From the letter:

    These interventions cause considerable offence rather than addressing questions of political substance about the plight of the Palestinian people and the right of Israel’s citizens to live a life free of violence.

    You’d almost think Ward wasn’t actually interested in those two issues. Surely not the case …

  4. What the Lib Dem leadership is saying is that we are not bothered about racism. We were instrumental in creating the state of Israel because of our Antisemitism than and we are just as racist now and support the colonial endeavors.

    • “What the Lib Dem leadership is saying is that we are not bothered about racism. We were instrumental in creating the state of Israel..”

      Dear Clown the Lib Dem party was not formed until several decades after Israel declared Independence, and their party leader was not even born then.
      As usual, no matter what name you post under, your posts are composed of lies, ignorance and sheer stupidity.

      • “As usual, no matter what name you post under, your posts are composed of lies, ignorance and sheer stupidity.” …and malice.

  5. The tone of the letter did not match the punishment, but the letter proves that Ward is a serial offender. If he does it again, will he be elevated to the Lords to make nice with Jihad Jenny?

  6. Somebody who thinks The Israeli state existed two thousand years ago in Judea and Samaria – you lack sense of history – No wonder some think most ZIonist knowledge of history is gained from “Idiots Guide to History” Now for real history – Liberals absorbed the Gang of Four from the Labour Party and became the Lib Dems

    The Liberal Party was a liberal[1] political movement that was one of the two major political parties of the United Kingdom during the 19th and early 20th centuries. It was the third largest political party throughout the latter half of the 20th century. The party moved towards social liberalism during the late 19th and early 20th centuries.[citation needed]
    The Liberal Party grew out of the Whig Party in 1859, and William Gladstone carried the party through governments in the late 19th century. The party split over the issue of Irish Home Rule, but returned to power in 1906 through a landslide victory. During this time in government, the Liberals are credited with the so-called Liberal Reforms, which saw the creation of a basic welfare state. During World War I, the Liberals governed Britain through a coalition with the Conservatives, which ended in 1922. In the 1920s, the Labour Party permanently replaced the Liberals as the largest opponent of the Conservative Party in British politics, and the Liberals went into decline, which culminated in their winning as few as 6 seats at general elections during the 1950s. A comeback of sorts was seen during the 1960s and 1970s, but it was not until 1981, when the Liberals allied with the newly-formed Social Democratic Party (SDP) to form the SDP–Liberal Alliance, that the party again enjoyed significant electoral success. In the 1983 general election, the alliance took 25% of the popular vote, but this only translated into 23 seats (out of a total of 650). During 1988, the Liberals formally merged with the SDP to form the Liberal Democrats,

    • One can only wonder why did they join the conservatives in the current govt?

      And by the way a sovereign nation called Israel did exist, though it was more than 2000 years to date.

    • “Now for real history – Liberals absorbed the Gang of Four from the Labour Party and became the Lib Dems”

      You really are a clown!
      A series of well documented events that happened only 30 years ago and you can’t even get those right.

      Do you wear a funny red nose and flashing bow-tie when you write your posts?
      Because you should, at least then you could look like a clown as well as behave like one.

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