Harriet Sherwood ‘Likes’ Facebook group which ‘pokes’ at Israel’s legitimacy


Harriet Sherwood’s latest post ‘Israelis use Facebook to deliver poke at democracy during elections‘, Jan 17, is about a Facebook initiative, called Real Democracy, which has “allowed hundreds of Israelis to ‘donate’ their votes to Palestinians as a symbolic protest at what they perceive as a lack of democracy.”

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Lack of democracy? In Israel?

Let’s see what they’re referring to.

Sherwood writes:

“[The scheme] matches Israeli voters who are willing to give up their vote with Palestinians who decide how – or whether – the vote should be cast. The organisers say it is “an act of civil disobedience against … the undemocratic nature of the Israeli elections … elections of a government which controls four million Palestinians without a voting right”.”

Note that Sherwood’s protagonist cites “four million” Palestinians “without a voting right’.  So, we’re not only talking about Palestinians in the West Bank, but, evidently, those in Gaza, too.

Perhaps the organizers are unaware that Palestinians in the West Bank are being ruled by a President, Mahmoud Abbas, who recently began serving his 9th year of a 4 year term, and that Palestinians in Gaza are citizens of an independent polity governed by Hamas – the masters of statecraft who expelled all political opposition in a violent coup over 5 years ago.

Sherwood continues:

Shimri Zameret, one of those behind the scheme, hopes that the numbers participating will be in the thousands by polling day. The aim is to give Palestinians a potential say not just in the next Israeli government but also in its “de facto control over the United Nations security council“. [emphasis added]

Since Israel doesn’t have veto power at the security council, let me venture to guess that Zameret, an Israeli “peace” activist imprisoned for refusing to serve in the IDF, is suggesting that Israel ‘effectively’ controls the UN security council by exercising de-facto control over a nation which actually does has veto power – an Israeli vassal known as the United States.

Here he is on Twitter proudly announcing the Guardian promotion of his campaign:

Finally, the goals of the program become a bit clearer in the penultimate paragraph.

“Ayah Bashir, 24, a university teacher in Gaza, has asked her Israeli counterpart, Dror Dayan, to boycott the election on her behalf. “I call for boycotting Israel at all levels, not just the election but academic, cultural and sporting boycotts,” she said. “The Israeli system is an apartheid system, and the Israeli Knesset [parliament] is a Zionist and racist institution.””

Truly surreal.

Ayah is a Palestinian living in a Palestinian controlled territory tyrannically governed by the undemocratic Islamist movement which calls for Israel’s destruction.

Ayah calls for the complete boycott and international isolation of Israel.

Ayah evidently believes that she is being disenfranchised, not by Hamas, but by Israel.

Ayah believes she should have a say in Israel’s election.

Of course, anything less would be completely undemocratic! 

25 comments on “Harriet Sherwood ‘Likes’ Facebook group which ‘pokes’ at Israel’s legitimacy

  1. Many western countries have kooks like Mr. Zameret running around. It’s just that unlike him, they don’t get the same support and publicity.

  2. Israeli settlers living in the West Bank can vote in Israeli elections, but Palestinians living in the same West Bank cannot.

    Why these double-standards?

    • Er. Could it possibly be because the first group are ISRAELI CITIZENS and the second group are not? What country in the world offers the vote in their elections to people (even those living within its borders) who are NOT CITIZENS of that state?

      • Labenal, I repeat the question: Israeli settlers living in the West Bank can vote in Israeli elections, but Palestinians living in the same West Bank cannot.

        Why these double-standards?

        You tell us that “Jewish settlers living in the West bank are Israeli citizens”. Then… why hasn’t Israel also given Israeli nationality to Christian and Muslims citizens living in the West Bank ?

        • “why hasn’t Israel also given Israeli nationality to Christian and Muslims citizens living in the West Bank ?”
          Because Israel is not their homeland of residence and never has been, and as they seem to prefer a fantastical scenario where Israel either agrees to become a 23rd Muslim ME nation or is overrun in a zero-sum conflict that leaves “Palestine” intact, they will not reside in their own country. It’s called a two-state solution, you pompous waste of the oxygen useful people breathe.

    • All Jerusalem residents have blue ID’s which allows them to vote.
      quit rubbishing.
      Golan residents can vote and have access to public benefit systems.

      • Itsik, I repeat the question: Israeli settlers living in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, can vote in Israeli elections, but Palestinians living in the same West Bank cannot (except for those who live in East Jerusalem).

        Why?

        Let’s take an example: why can settlers living in Halamish settlement in the West Bank vote in Israeli elections, but Palestinians living in the next door village of Nabi Saleh cannot?

        • Are you stupid?
          What part of all Jerusalem residents can vote in the Israeli elections don’t you understand?
          From Shoaafat to Malha, each adult which hold a valid blue ID is entitled to vote.
          This includes the ones calling themselves Palestinians yet voted overwhelmingly to keep their Israeli IDs in a future land swap.

    • Disputed territory administered by a state is not the same as territory claimed by a state and annexed to that state. Israel has annexed the Golan and east Jerusalem, following the wars of aggression launched by the Arab states that formerly controlled those areas. Alll people living in those annexed areas have the right to vote, provided they accept Israeli citizenship. People living in settlements are still Israeli citizens, even though they are living in a disputed area not annexed to Israel. Nearby Arab residents are under various degrees of occupation as a result of wars of aggression launched by the Arab governments which formerly administered those territories, and subsequent peace agreements between Israel and the designated representatives of the Palestinian people under international war.

      The situation is easily understood by anyone.

      • The last line of that paragraph should read “under international law.”

        I would also add that this is the situation pending a final peace agreement between the Israelis and the Palestinians.

  3. “Harriet Sherwood ‘Likes’ Facebook group which ‘pokes’ at Israel’s legitimacy”

    This is not the first time that Mr Levick’s title is completely disconnected from reality, and biased.

    Ms Sherwood never “liked” a group which “pokes” at Israel’s legitimacy.

    Ms Sherwood “liked” a group bringing together Israeli and Palestinian citizens who peacefully protest against the fact that while settlers living in the West Bank can vote in Israeli elections, Palestinians living in the same West Bank cannot – even though both settlers and Palestinians are ruled by the Israeli army and the Israeli Civil Administration in 61% of the West Bank.

    • But the WB has been divided into 3 areas until a solution is agreed upon.
      Do you refute that or are you venting out your frustration about the fact that Area A’s leaders and Gaza leaders don’t allow Palestinians the right to vote on the Israelis.

      It’s clearly all out fault.
      Recession, global warming, war, famine, cancer, spying eagles, oh wait, the last one is our fault…

      • Itsik, settlers living in Area C of the West Bank, which is under Israeli control, can vote in Israeli elections, but Palestinians living in the same Area C cannot. Why?

        Let’s take an example: why can settlers living in Halamish settlement in the West Bank vote in Israeli elections, but Palestinians living in the next door village of Nabi Saleh cannot?

        • PS: both Halamish and Nabi Saleh are located in Area C of the West Bank, which is under Isreli control. Why can people living in Halamish vote in Israel, but not people living in Nabi Saleh?

          • The reason is because this area was not annexed.
            It is understood to be either evicted or swapped for Israeli land when the final borders are drawn.
            This is my take on it.
            I do not agree with all settlements and this policy but the questions you pose are easily answered.
            This only makes it more important for the Palestinians and Israeli to resume talks regardless of the elected govt.

            • The only important thing is to reach peace and a two-state solution which will secure a Jewish and a Palestinian state living side by side. This cannot be achieved through the settlement policy.

  4. Very simple, nuttie, they are not Israelian citizen. If they want to vote, they have to apply accordingly to become citizens of Israel, with all the burdens like tax paying, paying rents and energy, which till now are paid by the UN, OPEC, EU, OIC, hundred NGOs, Iran, Saudi-Arabia, USA, …
    No wonder that you are drawn to this life style while living with your parents.

    • Israeli citizens not Israelian.
      As for applying, many Palestinian from Gaza, the WB and even enemy states have become Israeli citizens by marrying Israelis, and do vote.
      The sad fact that many Israeli Arabs (or Israeli Palestinians as they some time define themselves) choose not to vote is a result of the shameful minimal representation of Israeli minorities in the current majour parties.

      This resmbles the BNP.
      The fact that a non Jew cannot enter a party like “The Jewish house” is not something we should be proud of.

      The following opinion is something worth noting.
      The amount of minorities in main stream Israeli parties has dropped dramaticaly.
      It seems left wing parties, like many Israeli Arab parties, care more about the Palestinians than about the actual Israeli arabs they serve.

      http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4333566,00.html

      • “The fact that a non Jew cannot enter a party like “The Jewish house” is not something we should be proud of.”

        Really? Can you please explain why you’re ashamed to see non Jews enter Israeli political parties?

        Isn’t religious discrimination against the law in Israel?

        • Read my sentence again Nat.
          I am ashamed to see Israeli parties that block non Jews from participating in them.
          I think we see eye to eye on this one.

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