“There and Back Again” – A CiFWatcher’s Adventure in MediaEarth


A guest post by AKUS

picIt’s been an exciting week for CiFWatchers in Guardianland.

Although I have occasionally pointed out to him that, with his profile,  Adam Levick could better play the role of an elf in the next  1,000 reel screen version of one of Tolkien’s stories, it appears that the Guardian, influenced no doubt by the new monster movie version of “The Hobbit”,  views him as a triumphant reincarnation of Bilbo Baggins.

Adam was “banned” by the Guardian as he reported on December 14th, tracing his journey into the gloom the Guardian reserves for those who have dared to challenge it too openly.

FrontPage”,  Jewish Press, and The Commentator  reported  Bilbo’s – sorry, Adam’s – banning from “Comment is Free”, and Tamar Yonah interviewed him at Israel National Radio while, like any good hobbit should, he was quaffing one of the local beverages at a MiddleEarth – sorry – Middle Eastern – inn – sorry – café.

Adam’s December 14th report on his banning was complete with a screenshot of his profile at CiF after his banning.  Rather like Bilbo putting on the ring, he and his comments simply disappeared:

adam banned

Wanting to write about this, and needing a better screenshot, I decided to look up his vanished profile – and, lo and behold, like a victorious Bilbo returning after slaying the dragon and avoiding the trolls that inhabit the mythical world of Israel that the Guardian has created, Adam’s profile was back:

back

Every good story deserves a moral. In this case, it seems that the monsters and trolls (I use the words in the Tolkien sense) running the Guardian were embarrassed enough by the negative publicity their foolishness created to reinstate Adam’s profile from the dungeon in Mordor where they keep those of us who have been banned.

The original purpose of the article I had planned to write was quite different.  I had noticed an exchange I captured in the screenshot below on December 13th  in the article about HSBC’s money laundering -  HSBC’s record $1.9bn fine preferable to prosecution, US authorities insist:

still there

I kept an eye on the comments by  “Mostmagnificentone” to see how long they stayed up before being removed (at least 15 hours, by the way, whereas any similar comments about you-know-who vanish within seconds, along, sometimes, with the person posting them).

One might imagine that “Mostmagnificentone” would be deservedly banned for these blatantly anti-Semitic comments. But you would be disappointed – he or she is still with us while not posting any more:

last

So it seems that while the Guardian is willing to crack down hard on hobbits, even if it has to allow them to reappear, it has no problem with orcs and trolls like “Mostmagnificentone”.

How the Guardian has changed since Tolkien’s time

51 comments on ““There and Back Again” – A CiFWatcher’s Adventure in MediaEarth

  1. A cautionary tale indeed Akus and a curiously charming one, for all the wickedness exposed.

    If the Guardian is so worried about its reputation that it bans people for crossing some imaginary line then a browse through Adam’s restored collection of comments will set you to wondering why they ‘banned’ him. He certainly isn’t guilty of crossing any of their guidelines of personal abuse or racial stereotyping. He uses no Nazi metaphors.

    He does however, contradict the blatant statements of untruth about Israel. Could it be that the truth is painful to the Guardian to whom facts are said to be sacred?

    • The Guardian did not ban Mr Levick for looking like Bilbo, but because a “pattern of abusive, trolling or offensive behaviour” was demonstrated.

      • You think I look like Mr. Levick?

        My lawyers, Sue, Grabbit and Run, will be in contact for a retraction and/ or suitable compensation very soon.

      • Prove it, you dope. In its usual fashion al-Guardian banned Adam because the home truths he told, very poitely, were too close to the knuckle and therefore made them uncomfortable.

        Now, if we’re talking about trolls and posters who give offence, I could name you at least one here, all of which puts CiF Watch on a vastly higher plane than al-Guardian.

  2. Mostmagnificentone’s debut CiF post (see bottom) was no doubt “Hollywood/Broadway is ruled by the Elders of Zion …”

  3. Yes. It’s the Guardian moderation policy that gives Israel a bad name. Truly shocking!

    I’m sure world leaders eagerly await MOstmagnificentone’s posts before deciding what to think.

    • Funnily enough world leaders do very often listen to the mob. You see the mob very often are in a majority, or are just more… persuasive. Every drip-drip of antisemitism ensure people at the very least consider the statements, and in many case accept them. This is what leads to dead Jews, although I am sure you’ll build us a very nice memorial afterwards.

      • So Mostmagnificentone has morphed into a mob? Very interesting theory. Most Cifers regard people like that as complete nutcases, which is why their posts remain unmoderated, especially on articles about finance, or get a response such as the one from MorbidCuriosity. Same goes for the erudite posts that say “Cameron is a prick”. You should report him/her next time and get his/her post removed.

        Every drip drip of pointless nitpicking in the Jerusalem Post and on sites like this ensures people regard the Jews in the same way as they regard demagogues, racists, birthers and troofers. That could lead to dead Jews.

        • Every drip drip of pointless nitpicking in the Jerusalem Post and on sites like this ensures people regard the Jews in the same way as they regard demagogues, racists, birthers and troofers

          Speak for yourself.

          • Oh, no need to get personal, UncleTanya. Good dodging, though. Meanwhile, why don’t you call your relatives in Jerusalem and tell them that you know exactly what “the world” thinks about the conflict, namely,that it’s irrelevant. That’s why you keep posting here, at this irrelevant blog.

          • “Meanwhile, why don’t you call your relatives in Jerusalem and tell them that you know exactly what “the world” thinks about the conflict, namely, that it’s irrelevant.”

            Can’t call them now old chap. They’re in lockdown. Don’t you know when the Sabbath begins? I do tell them exactly that every time they give me a Jerusalem Post to read. Like this one http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=293137

            They don’t listen of course, but they’re adults and have made their choice.

            Why is it dodging when I reply “obviously” to your question “That’s your greatest wish isn’t it?” The only other answer could be “No.” But you would call that answer dodging too wouldn’t you?

            The IP conflict is irrelevant to 99.9999% of the world’s population, as is the music of Tiny Tim. It isn’t irrelevant to me. What’s so difficult to understand about that?

          • Man, you are confused indeed. But, never mind, say hi to your “relatives” in Jerusalem. Tell them that 99.9999999% of “the world” doesn’t give a sh*t about
            them, so they don’t need to go through that Oslo farce once again. Don’t worry, be happy.

    • You can easily see that many Arab leaders battle each other to show who hates Israel more in order to get elected…

      • In Arabia, not on Cif. You might think of giving them fewer reasons to hate Israel rather than spending time hunting down examples of ‘inadequate’ reporting in western media.

        However, if you merely want to play the role of the perpetual victim, carry on moaning.

        • Jews don’t have to do anything to make Muslims hate them. It is part of being a (good) Muslim to hate people who are not Muslims.

          ‘Our’ only ‘hope’ is not to antagonise them without good reason. Like demonstrating our freedoms to them quite clearly so that they can compare their freedoms with ‘our’ freedoms and then compare their (absence of) achievement with ‘our’ many and diverse achievements.

          • It is part of being a (good) Muslim to hate people who are not Muslims.

            What a revolting comment.

            Oh – and complete and utter bollocks as well, of course.

          • A good bit of stereotyping from someone who objects to stereotyping. (I’m assuming you do object to being stereotyped. Maybe not?)

        • The majority of the old faithfuls who remain and are never banned from CiF don’t need a reason to hate Israel – indeed “reason” is an oxymoron when attributed to them – it’s more of a mindless, knee-jerk reflex, uninformed by fact.

          And if you are looking for “perpetual victims” (and the west even pays them for their role) you need look no further than at those objects of the racism of lowered expectations of civilised behaviour, the Guardian’s pet project, the not-so-poor Palestinians.

          • The Guardian may or may not portray Palestinians as ‘perpetual victims’ but Jews do portray themselves as such.

          • @ UncleVanya

            Have you ever actually met a Jewish person? I ask because of the many Jews I know and have known, none portray themselves as perpetual victims.

          • “Have you ever actually met a Jewish person? ”

            Ha! I have Jewish relatives living and working in Jerusalem. I also nearly married a Jew 30 years ago. That’s in addition to all the other Jews I know and have known.

            The relatives living in Jerusalem definitely portray themselves as perpetual victims, and they are supported in their victimhood by the Jerusalem Post. They keep sending me huge cuttings about obscure Scottish Trade Unionists that said something unkind about Israel on a visit to somewhere or other. Surely you must have read the Jerusalem Post?

          • Uncle Vanya:
            The relatives living in Jerusalem definitely portray themselves as perpetual victims, and they are supported in their victimhood by the Jerusalem Post. They keep sending me huge cuttings about obscure Scottish Trade Unionists that said something unkind about Israel on a visit to somewhere or other.
            And this moron is whining about stereotyping…
            You couldn’t make it up.

          • “And this moron is whining about stereotyping…”

            This moron is whining about the stereotyping in the Jerusalem Post. The stereotype that fits you like a glove.

          • Yes Uncle when I mentioned a moron I thought about you who while whining about stereotyping is using the crudest form of racial generalizations.

          • “thought about you who while whining about stereotyping is using the crudest form of racial generalizations.”

            Which bit of “they are supported in their victimhood by the Jerusalem Post” did you fail to understand? It’s the Jerusalme Post that does the racial stereotyping, not me.

            And this blog of course. Whine, whine. “We’re victims of inaccurate reporting. Poor us. ”

            And my personal favourite from your many whining posts

            “No they have an other reason, these good Europeans can’t forgive that some of us survived their thousand year old attempts to destroy us, and are much more successful on every front than they could ever dream of.”

          • In fact, UncleTanya, you are the greatest whiner around. You whine about Jews and Judaism non-stop. You whine about this blog all the time, but keep posting in it. In sum, you just have an irresistible monomaniac fixation with Jews and Judaism, don’t ya?

  4. By the way i think Mostmagnificentone has a cousin. i just found thi on a random thread —–ActofTreason
    19 December 2012 6:41 PMLink to this comment
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    WINSTON CHURCHILL wrote:-
    ‘This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus to Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany) and Emma Goldman (United States), this worldwide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence and impossible equality has been steadily growing’.
    (Illustrated Sunday Herald, February 8th 1920)

    Churchill was right, even though he was a eugenicist imperialist war criminal! Presumably, he wrote this long before he became a Zionist quizling, so we’ll just have to overlook his breathtaking hypocrisy!

    ‘Our race is the master race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as slaves’.
    (Menachim Begin. Ex-Prime Minister of Israel)

    ‘Everytime we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that. I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America and the Americans know it’.
    (Ariel Sharon. Ex-Prime Minister of Israel. Kol Yisrael Radio, October 3rd 2001)

    ‘We will have a world government whether you like it or not. The only question is whether that government will be achieved by conquest or consent’.
    (Paul Warburg. Jewish banker. Testimony to the US Senate, February 17th 1950)

    Quotes from the Talmud (Jewish ‘holy’ book)
    Baba Mezia 114a-114b:-
    Non-Jews are not human. Only Jews are human.
    Baba Kama 37b:-
    Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has exposed their money to Israel.
    Yebamoth 98:-
    All Gentile children are animals.
    Sanhedrin 54b:-
    A Jew may have sex with a child as long as that child is over nine years old.
    Sanhedrin 55b:-
    A Jew may marry a three year old girl.
    Baba Mezia 24a:-
    Jews may steal from Non-Jews.
    Baba Kama 113a:-
    Jews may lie to Non-Jews.
    Gittin 57a:-
    Jesus is being boiled in hot excrement in hell.

    Our property has been stolen by Khazar banksters!
    The corporation’s prisons overflow with the poor!
    Parliament is infested with Freemason pederasts!
    The government has been captured by Zionist usurpers!
    The Queen is the whore of the criminal Rothschilds, the courts are corrupt and the nation is broke! Porn, football, beer and racism are all we’ve got left!

    Freedom of speech means you can slate Muslims, you can slate Christians, you can slate Buddhists, you can slate Hindus, you can slate Arabs, you can slate Blacks, Asians, Latinos and Whites! You can slate anything and anyone except Jews and Elizabeth Saxe-Coburg-Gotha!——
    Link (‘cos I just complained now) http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/19/queen-elizabeth-land-retro-neo-imperialism#start-of-comments
    Note the subject of discussion!

    • It appears it has vanished already. I’m unsure if that was because it was anti-semitic or off topic though :-)

        • The same reason that the original article quotes mostmagnificent one’s rant. It is good to have a record sadly.

          • BTW, Adam can always remove the original my post if he thinks there’s no further point now the Guardian has actually removed it.

        • The penultimate paragraph does have entertainment value, I suppose.

          Anyway: Spartacus was Jewish? Perhaps ActofTreason was thinking of Kirk Douglas.

          • We all are… All around us, walking among the crowd.. (Queue twilight zone music) too too too too, too too too too…

          • I also liked the penultimate paragraph. But there’s one thing I don’t understand. If ActofTreason still has football, beer and porn, he really has nothing to complain about. Sounds like a recipe for a jolly nice life to me!

    • When I read this comment I wasn’t sure about reproducing that anti-Semitic muck here but, on consideration, I do find it appropriate. In the interests of documenting what can appear on Guardian threads.

    • My late mother was absolutely right – there are more loons outside the lunatic asylums than inside. I can’t help wondering whether most of them end up as CiF favourites.

        • “…his site has its fair share of loons by the looks of it.” UncleTanya

          Really? That’s why you keep posting here? Or maybe you think you represent “the world” and come here to hector about the “irrelevant” issue of Jews and Judaism?

          “Internet talk borads attract people with axes ti grind and the lunatics of this world. CiF is by no means alone…” UncleTanya

          Here your projectionitis takes over. Next, what? Will you talk about your “concern” with your “relatives in Jerusalem”? Will you tell us what “the world” is thinking about this and that? Or will you just propose we should all get along? We’re waiting for your priceless insights.

          • A fine example of Israeli-Jewish “diplomacy”. You should try reading “How to win friends and influence people”?

          • Win friends?? Israel doesn’t need “friends” like you. Jews don´t need friends like you. And no country need “friends” that explicitly say, wish and act to wipe it out.

          • I thought Israel needed regular Cifers like me on your side. We are subject to a bombardment of false information about the nature of toy guns and the age of dead Palestinians, after all. That’s the point of this blog isn’t it? To re-educate us ignorant anti-semites.

            Or is the blog just a comfort banket?

          • I dunno. Why do you post here, if you dislike this blog so much. Are you looking for other types of emotional indulgence? Who knows, eh, UncleTanya, that’s a strange world this one. But you are the one supposed to know everything about “the world”. Please give us some light.

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