Palestinians call for sanctions against Britain following Olympic opening; Lieberman to consider UK request to establish more Israeli settlements


A Guest Post by AKUS

A new scandal has erupted at the Olympics in Britain. Following the singing of the new British national anthem, “Jerusalem” during the opening ceremony and a plea from British Prime Minister for Israel to consider settling the poverty-stricken East End of London, the Palestinians have called for the UN to impose sanctions on Britain.

“Al-London will remain ours forever”, said the mayor of Tower Hamlets. “We were here when the Brits were painting themselves blue and swinging from the trees, and no Zionists will take Al-London from us”.

Palestinian non-negotiator Saeb (“we will only negotiate after you first agree to our terms”) Erekat pointed out that William Blake was really a Palestinian whose name was “Balak”, and the poem he wrote in 1492 was originally called “Al Kuds”. He wrote it after he invented algebra.   

Erekat added: “The reference to “did those feet in ancient times” refers to the imprint on the Dome of the Rock where Mohamed leaped onto his magic steed, and “dark satanic mills” refers to the terrible conditions under which Arabs have forced to labor for the Zionists in Palestine for centuries. Changing the name to Jerusalem from the Al Kuds, as it has been known since the time of our father, Ibrahim, will not hide the way Jews in Palestine have persecuted us for centuries.”

Erekat was imprisoned shortly after by the Palestinian Authority for revealing that Jews had been living in Palestine for centuries.

“It is time for the Palestinians to show who is in charge of Britain”, added British MP George Galloway and an aunty from the PSC who owns 23 cats. “We support the Palestinian call for boycotts, divestment, and sanctions against Britain. We call on all decent people to avoid buying mud from the Thames”.

As result of Galloway’s brave stand, a motion was introduced at the Oxford Union to debate the topic: “A British MP who calls for sanctions against Britain should have his salary doubled”. Taking the opposite approach, the Cambridge Union proposed a debate on the topic: “Mud from the West Bank of the Thames should not be boycotted in Britain”. The Cambridge motion was rejected when the mayor of Tower Hamlets shouted down support for the sale of any products from any place called the West Bank.

Israeli Foreign Minister Lieberman has been dispatched to London for urgent talks over the settlement issue. Since Britain does  not recognize the real Jerusalem as the capital of Israel” , he said, we will have to see if Mr. Cameron will accept London as Israel’s capital, or, alternatively, as seems to be the case, he prefers to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of the UK.”

Phoebe Greenwood of the Guardian reported that the Israeli government has a plan to build 800 settlements in East London. The Guardian later corrected the statement to indicate that the plan actually called for the building of one kibbutz.

Noting that the Guardian’s Harriet Sherwood has written that the kibbutz movement is making a comeback Mr. Cameron has said he will ask Mr. Lieberman to have Israel to reconsider and build 800 kibbutzim in East London, not 800 settlements. “Britain”, he said, “is in worse economic shape than the West Bank and according to the World Bank, like Palestine, its economy not strong enough to support a state”.  

In an article in the New Economist, Jonathan Freedland of the Guardian pointed out that the difference between the East Side and the West Bank is that the Judea and Samaria have hundreds of thousands of Jewish settlers. “This has greatly improved the economy, whereas most Jews who used to live in East London now live in the West Bank. Bring back the Jews to the East Side,” Freedland argued, “and you will see the area start to flourish”.

“On the other hand”, Freedland continued,” if Israel has to try to absorb 60 millions Brits that could imperil the Jewish character of the State of Israel and the original Zionist concept of Manchester as a Jewish homeland.”  The Guardian’s editors are still trying to understand his last comment and are wondering if it has anything to do with circumcision, a topic of great concern to its readers.

The Labour Party has denounced Mr. Cameron’s kibbutz initiative as a transparent ploy to get the Jewish and left-wing votes in the next election. “We supported the socialist kibbutzim when you thought the term referred to someone watching a chess match”, Ed Milliband sniffed.

Hilary Clinton and Dennis Ross have pointed out that it has been impossible get a two state solution established between Israel and the Palestinians. “How can we be expected to help the Palestinians negotiate a three state solution?” Clinton asked. Cameron pointed out that Great Britain negotiated a three state solution centuries ago, and this would actually be a five state solution. However, the head of the IRA has requested that a special UN commission be established to negotiate the inclusion of Northern Ireland into a six-state solution. Lord Peel’s great grand-daughter has offered to lead the commission.

Mitt Romney was not asked his opinion on the matter by Mr. Cameron. Nevertheless, on the flight to Israel, he laid out his plan for an Israeli leveraged buy-out of the UK. “I would break it up into its separate divisions, fire the few workers that are there, and sell off the pieces to the highest bidder”, Romney opined. “I might want to keep MI-6”. He had just finished speaking when his plane landed at Ben Gurion airport, and all the Israelis started clapping. Romney took this as a vote of support, but, in, fact, it is what Israelis do then they land safely in Israel.

Following the expansion of the proposed solution to Britain’s economic woes to a six-state solution Dennis Ross flew home in despair. As his flight was landing in Washington, the patriotic Captain piped in a rendition of “Jerusalem” followed by Hatikvah directly from the Olympic opening ceremony. The Israelis on board started clapping, thinking that they had once again successfully landed at Ben Gurion airport. The Brits on board joined in, since it was the polite thing to do. The Palestinians published an article saying that it was racist to clap after Hatikvah and called on the UN to issue a ban on playing Hatikvah on airplanes.

125 comments on “Palestinians call for sanctions against Britain following Olympic opening; Lieberman to consider UK request to establish more Israeli settlements

  1. Everyone wants a piece of Jerusalem even the palestinians,want a piece of Jerusalem.though they have no claim what so ever to Jerusalem……

    Jerusalem is Britain’s unofficial national anthem,a very uplifting hymn.Anything that has Jerusalem in it is uplifting…It is one of my favorites……………..

    First the Olympics have a logo that very suspiciously looks like the word ZION then they have Jerusalem as their sports anthem,what next.Does any one else see a very disturbing pattern here….Trust the Guardian’s CIF posters and Berchmans to point to one………

    The satire is great,especially when well written…..

    • “what next. Does any one else.see a very disturbing pattern here”

      On a current anti-Semitic Youtube video is displayed:
      Year 2012 = ZION (transpose 0 and 1- rotate the last 2 by 90 degrees)

      Next up – year 2102 = ZION

      Zion is eternal, surrounds us, yet is hidden and now is slowly being revealed! The universe is a Jewish conspiracy! ?

  2. About time that Israel colonized the UK,it would do hell of a better job of running the UK than is being done at the moment…..Or at the very least out-source the running of the UK to Israel…….

  3. Romney said that Jerusalem is Israel’s capital (duh we already/always knew that)

    Now let’s wait and see,we won’t have to wait too long.before the Guardian and it’s Leftard posters go ballistic,

  4. Yes – We get it

    Exactly on the 9th of Av, in the year of Zion (2012), the world pays homage to Hellenism in the form of the Olympics.

    On this 9th of Av of the year 2012, the Jews mourn the destruction of Jerusalem and the Holy Temples. The world’s state actors still refuse to recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel whilst England on this day adopts Jerusalem as its national anthem.

    The Olympic committee refuse even 1 minute silence for a belated commemoration of the Munich massacre of Israeli athletes – although one suspects that 1 minute silence would be 1 minute of jeering.

    On the 9th of Av 2012. The world celebrates. The Jews mourn

  5. Attempts at humour that are fuelled by hate are generally not successful.

    This is no exception.

  6. AKUS hates … the Palestinians, left-wingers, Jews like Freedland who do not share his views (and who he therefore outrageously labels “Theobald Jews”), and Britain.

              • So what are “acceptable thought for Jews”?

                You’ll have to explain yourself a little better, you seem to think you’re talking to people who understand your mindset.

                • Oh, and who exactly “strictly enforces” these “limits” and how?

                  Curious minds need to know…

                • Ask Richard Goldstone about the vicious campaign of hate against him after chairing the fact finding mission to Gaza.

                  Ask Pappe, ask Finkelstein. Ask any Jew who has been vocal in their opposition to Zionism and the brutalisation of Palestinians. It will not be tolerated.

                  Like I said – strictly enforced. The non-conforming Jew is referred to more commonly in Zionist circles as the “self-hating Jew” – the suggestion being that if they choose to not confirm, they must hate themselves.

                • Take a look at the CiFWatch twitter stream. Mondoweiss is a political blog run by Jewish Americans who do not conform.

                  Lamely attacked by CiFWatch as a “hate site”. Note that no instances of hate are offered as proof.

                  And considering the sheer volume of anti-Palestinian and anti-Muslim hate on this site, it is, of course, dripping with irony.

                • Poor, Poor, “Avram”…
                  First we hear about “declassified documents”, and some expose about CifWatch/CAMERA in Rashid K.’s tabloid publications… for which, as always we have no proof…(Your favourite kind of accusations, too :D).
                  Now, it seems, you’ve also missed the Memo on Mondoweiss…(though, of course you haven’t… that’s why you lurk there):
                  http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/07/a-reminder-that-anti-semitism-has-no-place-in-debates-over-israel/259830/
                  Judeo-Masnoic conspiracies, Oh, and Hitler didn’t start the war…
                  Fabulous stuff from Mondoweiss… and you lap up every word…

                • I did… now where’s that Khalidi expose?
                  And the “declassified documents”?
                  Still in your head I see… Or on Mondoweiss?
                  Do let us know, whenever you’re ready :D.

                • Sigh. Comment is awaiting moderation.

                  Rather than split the debate, you can wait with baited breath……

                • Why still bothering with a caught forger?
                  Adam should provide a permanent subtext to his postings. like
                  Beware of the caught forger.

    • Oh-oh …. another one star vote.

      See if you can guess why, pretzelberg.

      “Mind reading” and projection in a vain attempt to support your own skewed views is a sign of distorted thinking.

      • It’s obviously you who’s doing the projection here.

        Mitnaged … the poster who seems to believe he can “shape” other posters’ behaviour! And then refers to the “distorted thinking” of other people! Even by your standards that’s hilarious.

    • AKUS hates … the Palestinians, left-wingers, Jews like Freedland who do not share his views (and who he therefore outrageously labels “Theobald Jews”), and Britain.

      I doubt it. But, I am very disgusted by Jews who have an inverted view of Israel and happily rub shoulders with rabid Israel haters as if to say, ‘I am not one of those’.

  7. Well done AKUS, very amusing. Shame on you pretz – I expected better from you tbh.

    I watched an interesting programme at the weekend by historian David Starkey on Churchill. Seems Churchill’s interest in history woke him up long before anyone to the threat Hitler and his gang posed to the world, and while everyone else was trying to appease Hitler, Churchill was warning anyone who would listen.

    Do we have a modern day Churchill who has seen the writing on the wall regarding Islamism and is warning against its appeasement?

          • You see what I did there?

            Yes, you made a real mess of this page!

            So basically you’re saying Zionists are Nazis?

            You still haven’t defined “acceptable thought for Jews”.

            As a Jew I’m interested to know what somebody like you believes I should be thinking.

            • No, I’m not saying that Zionists are Nazis – because I don’t believe it. I’m just offering a link to a web page, as you did.

              Are you saying that Islamists are Nazis? If you believe it, have the courage to say it.

              • Courage?

                I don’t need to say anything, history and current events on the ground speak for themselves.

                Hitler a Hero on Palestinian Authority Radio

                According to the PMW report, “[I]t is important to understand that the revulsion of Hitler expected in the West is not true in Palestinian society. Palestinians can be found who are named “Hitler” as a first name: Hitler Salah [Al Hayat Al Jadida (Fatah), Sept. 28, 2005], Hitler Abu-Alrab [Al Hayat Al Jadida (Fatah), Jan. 27, 2005], Hitler Mahmud Abu-Libda [Al Hayat Al Jadida (Fatah), Dec.18, 2000.] Articles have appeared in both Fatah and Hamas newspapers which demonstrate Hitler’s admired status.”

                Hitler star of Palestinian radio show

                UNESCO cuts funds for Palestinian magazine for publishing pro-Hitler article

                Much of what you say here seems to come directly from this speech:

                • I don’t want the facts to speak for themselves, I want you to have the courage to say it.

                  If you believe Islamism is Nazism, please say so.

                • “I don’t want the facts to speak for themselves”

                  ROTFLMAO!

                  That much is obvious!

                • I’ve given you multiple opportunities to have the courage to outline your position. You have refused to do so, choosing instead to resort to posting links.

                  Cowardice is not pretty.

                • So now you resort to calling me a coward?

                  if we were having this discussion in a pub I’d invite you to step outside :-)

                  Remember, even in internet discussions you shouldn’t say anything to somebody that you wouldn’t have the courage to say to their face.

                • I’m struggling to get you to say anything.

                  Remember, if you were talking to me face to face, you wouldn’t be able to give me URLs.

                  If you believe it, why can you not say it? Most odd. Are you ashamed of your belief?

                • Avram, my beliefs are neither here nor there. What are important are facts which you have plainly declared do not interest you.

                  Given that I don’t see much point in debating further.

                  If we were face to face I would explain those facts described in the links to articles which you haven’t bothered to read. Of course you would refute them and refuse to believe they were true.

                  If you called me a coward to my face I would take the opportunity to demonstrate a little Krav Maga.

                • This is fascinating. If you believe it, just say it. Can it be so hard? What is stopping you?

                • “What are important are facts which you have plainly declared do not interest you.”

                  Most people give citations to support an argument. You give them in place of an argument.

                  “If we were face to face I would explain those facts described in the links to articles which you haven’t bothered to read.”

                  Fascinating, so you would have the courage to state your opinion face to face, but when online your courage deserts you?

                  I have to say again – this is absolutely fascinating.

                • If you’re having trouble writing your opinion down, perhaps you could attempt to communicate it via the medium of dance.

                  See Fawlty Towers episode “The Germans” for inspiration.

                • Most people give citations to support an argument. You give them in place of an argument.

                  And you are one of them You used to give falsified and fabricared citations that’s true.

                • Ho ho ho – this creature sums itself up in “I don’t want the facts to speak for themselves!” Its own comment trips it up. What a joke it is!

                  Not surprising, given its “contributions” to Cif Watch hitherto, that it doesn’t want the facts to speak for themselves.

              • Are you saying that Islamists are Nazis? If you believe it, have the courage to say it.

                Of course not. Islamists hate Jews because their holy Koran tells them Jews are evil and Jews also excel so much that they show up Muslims as a group incapable of accepting modern life and enjoying it.

                Nazis hate Jews because Hitler told them Jews are evil and Jews also excel so much that they show up Nazis as rank idiots who think that racial specifications confirms a position in ‘society’.

                Nothing in common at all.

          • I don’t.
            Apart from posting a reference to a preposterous piece of “literature”, what did you do there?

            • Gave you five stars for your post there, pretzelberg because you were calm and not insulting

              Easy, isn’t it?

              • You yourself are often enough insulting. Not enough as me, of course – but then again you don’t face the torrent of personal insults and bigotry that I do.

                Who on earth do you think you are, spooky Mr. I-can-change-your-behaviour?

          • No doubt, we have the cat out of the bag, at last.
            Lenni Brenner is the author in question?- A drug-pushing Marxist-Trotskyst… I say, why NOT ask Stalin himself? He’d be far more vocal on Zionism and Jews in general…
            Whom else do we have on that list? Alan-”Zionism is Racism”-Hart, and of course, Gilad-”I am not sure there was a Holocaust, but if there was, Jews deserved it”-Atzmon(So anti-Semitic, by the way, that he was even denounced on “Electronic Intifada”-and that’s saying something).
            You need to update your literary selection… Might I recommend the classics? Why didn’t you include the Protocols while you were at it?

            • I don’t know the book, nor the author.

              Have you read it? What do you disagree with? Zionist-Nazi collaboration is hardly a controversial thesis is it?

              • I’ll ask you then: what collaboration?
                Did the Zionists help the Nazis stuff the Jews into the Gas Chambers?
                Did not the Zionists push for a state that would’ve saved millions from annihilation?
                Did not the Haganah(utter Zionists) fight alongside the British against Nazism?
                Was not a Jewish brigade formed, that fought valiantly against the Nazis?
                And… when can we get an apologies, for this latest affront?

                • All I did was post a link. The book was instantly dismissed by people who I guess haven’t read it.

                  Fascinating stuff.

                • HA!!! :D!!! LOL!
                  Shouldn’t you make a beeping noise when you backup like that?
                  What a pitiful scoundrel you are…(And I know the author…)
                  A book? Hitler wrote one too.
                  So did Mao…
                  Should we also take them as “authorities”, on anything?

                • I’ll gladly tell you…
                  The conspiracy that is advanced, by this book, and other anti-Zionists is the “Ha’avara” agreement, which permitted Jews to leave Nazi Germany, to Mandatory Palestine, in exchange for remitting their possessions in the hands of the Nazi state.
                  They call this “collaboration”: what it did in fact, was rescue nearly 100K+ Jews from Germany, and saved other countless lives.
                  To those types(Brenner, et al) , the Jews should’ve gone on merrily to the Gas Chambers, provided they didn’t set foot in Palestine.

                • If the book begins with that claim, try the FIRST document..
                  Plus, the 51, are edited versions of his earlier “works”…
                  To be sure, a confection of the most nasty swill of conspiracies you can imagine…
                  It’s all music to your ears, I reckon.

                • That’s rather like, “I didn’t actually gas or kill any Jews, I only formed them into an orderly queue before the selection”

                  What a sickening window into your mind.

        • It’s strange that equating Islamism with Nazism is OK, but equating Zionism with Nazism is racist.

          • It’s strange that equating Islamism with Nazism is OK, but equating Zionism with Nazism is racist.

            Not really.

            And one thing certainly is mad – and that’s “equating” Islamism with Zionism (as you do).

            • Islamism is a political ideology with its roots in theology, based on the idea of supremacy of a religious group over a territory.

              Zionism is a political ideology based on the idea of supremacy of an ethnic group over a territory.

              They are not equal, but there is certainly a good deal of overlap.

              • Please point out how “Zionism is a political ideology based on the idea of supremacy“.

                (Anti-Zionist sources are not acceptable.)

              • You are either disingenuous or deliberately missing the point here “Avram”. Islam doesn’t just want supremacy over “a territory” it wants supremacy over the world and its own leaders and literature say so.

                Supremacy over what is now Israel is just an hors d’oeuvre.

                • Be careful here, you’re in danger of making sweeping statements that are the hallmark of racist thought.

              • They are not equal, but there is certainly a good deal of overlap.

                Yeah – about as much as there is between Hitler, St. Francis of Assisi and Dr. bloody Dolittle on account of their preference for a vegetarian diet.

              • This just off the wires: “Islamists in north Mali stone unmarried couple to death”.

                I can’t think of any Zionists ever doing this – let alone it being an almost daily occurrence worldwide.

  8. I am disturbed frankly, that we have “commentators” here, equating Zionism with Nazism…
    Someone’s inching to be banned, I reckon…

    • I shouldn’t hold your breath…..

      But I agree that there’s freedom of speech and licence to insult and certain posters here mistake the latter for the former.

    • Really? Who?

      I do hope that you don’t mean me, especially since I expressly stated that I don’t equate Zionism with Nazism.

      Are you also supporting the banning of Biodewotsit for equating Nazism and Islamism? Or is that OK? I just want to be clear on the rules.

      • (And yes, I meant you… here and on an earlier thread, we heard you pontificate about Israeli officials and their “Nazi” leanings).
        But you see, here, Avram, I support you 100%.
        I completely condemn any attempts to link Nazism with Islamism, or Nazism with anything, frankly OTHER than Nazism.

        • Did you not compare a speech given by Begin to a speech given by Hitler? When are you going to be banned? Or is that different?

          • Where did I compare Begin’s speech, to that of Hitler’s?
            What I did advance was a juxtaposition to your dishonest ability to take one sentence and make it stand for the whole…
            That, “Avram”, is one thing(among many) you must atone for.
            You, on the other hand, have taken Begin/Rabin, and turned them into Hitler…
            Apologize, don’t do it again, and we’ll move on.

            • I’m still waiting for an example of my conflating Zionism with Nazism.

              Or are we seeing yet another C101 fabrication?

              • “Zionism is a political ideology based on the idea of supremacy of an ethnic group over a territory.
                They are not equal, but there is certainly a good deal of overlap.”

                To being with the preposterousness of that suggestions, that Zionism somehow asserts supremacy…(where’s proof of that, by the by?), you certainly have declared your convictions here well;
                So is this going to be the standard routine…? You run away now that you’ve been exposed(as was the case with CifWatch/CAMERA re Khalidi & the “declassified documents”…) or will you finally apologize?!

                • Zionism and Nazism are both (expansionist) nationalist ideologies. It’s not intended to be an insult to say there is an overlap. Of course there is an overlap. It would be foolish to suggest they have absolutely nothing in common.

                  Your constant slurs over JPS, a respected journal show your racist colours well. I am loathe to repeat the slapdown here, but if Adam chooses not to allow it past moderation, I will repost.

                • Expansionist? Nationalist?
                  Where does Zionism advocate Expansionism?
                  Nazism is a racially derived movement, how does that pertain to Zionism?
                  Or were Garibaldi and Mazzini Nazis as well?
                  How about Josef Pilsudski, and other Polish nationalists attempting to retrieve their homeland from Russian rule?
                  Lithuanian patriots, and others?
                  Gaullists in France?
                  Are they all Nazis, too?
                  As for the J. Pal. Studies being “respected”… that’s truly a laugh…
                  So is it beyond criticism now? How does my dismissal of a PLO fan-group equal racism?(Did ever mention the race/ethnicity of the authors, in conjunction with my critique, even once? You’re pathetic)… With trolls like yourself, the mind boggles.
                  And where’s that CAMERA/CifWatch rebuke we’ve been waiting for oh-so-long? what about those “declassified documents”?
                  We’ll never know, I guess…
                  You’ll soon flee, and leave us all wondering, what the hell were you thinking to begin with… Do you seriously imagine no one will call you on your lies?

                • “Where does Zionism advocate Expansionism?”

                  Oh please. Even you wouldn’t make that argument would you?

                  “Nazism is a racially derived movement, how does that pertain to Zionism?”

                  Zionism is an ethnically derived movement. So?

                  “As for the J. Pal. Studies being “respected”… that’s truly a laugh…”

                  Make a criticism and publish it in a peer reviewed journal. Or continue smearing and squirming, whichever suits. In fact, forget the peer reviewed Journal, just say something non-racist about it. In fact, just say anything substantive. But you can’t can you? Hatred first, reason later.

                  Have you not run out of straw men yet? Your skills in debate have hit an all time low. Not content with being shown to have lied about my conflating Zionism and Nazism, you then try to paint me as conflating all nationalists with Nazis.

                  How sad and sorry you are.

                • Where does Zionism advocate “Expansionism”? I’ll ask again…
                  Ethnically derived is NOT racially derived… there’s a major difference…
                  So, I’ll once again posit:
                  Garibaldi and Mazzini->Nazis?
                  Gaullists->Nazis?
                  Pilsudski->Nazis?
                  Lithuanian Partisans->Nazis?
                  Romanian Independence fighters->Nazis?
                  Hungarian anti-Communists(aka “Nationalists”, see 1958)->Nazis?
                  As for the J. Pal. Studies… where have I said anything racist about it?
                  Again with the mental conjurations, eh, Avram :D? Don’t worry, I know you don’t control your own frivolous outbursts(It’s like Tourette’s isn’t it?… :D)
                  As for Nazism & Zionism… YOU have admitted to it yourself…
                  My question is this: How bipolar do you have to be, to reject what you confirmed yourself, one a few minutes prior?
                  Ah, but your defeat, NOW that’s certainly sweet!
                  “Say it loud and there’s music playing,
                  Say it soft and it’s almost like praying…”
                  :D
                  Now where’s that promised rebuttal to CifWatch/CAMERA by that PLO-Mag?
                  You’ve been chased away with your tail between your legs…
                  Don’t bother coming back :D.

                • “Where does Zionism advocate “Expansionism”?”

                  I honestly don’t think I can have that discussion without hurting my sides.

                  Google “greater israel” and start from there.

                  “Ethnically derived is NOT racially derived”

                  Nazis derived nationhood from race. Zionists derived nationhood on ethno-religious criteria. Yes, they are different, but they both (as they would claim) unite a nation.

                  “… there’s a major difference…”

                  Of course there is. The dominant nation in Nazism is defined by race, in Zionism it is defined on ethno-religious grounds.

                  So, I’ll once again posit:
                  “Garibaldi and Mazzini->Nazis?”

                  No. Have I claimed otherwise? Straw man.

                  Gaullists->Nazis?

                  No. Have I claimed otherwise? Straw man.

                  Pilsudski->Nazis?

                  No. Have I claimed otherwise? Straw man.

                  Lithuanian Partisans->Nazis?

                  No. Have I claimed otherwise? Straw man.

                  Romanian Independence fighters->Nazis?

                  No. Have I claimed otherwise? Straw man.

                  Hungarian anti-Communists(aka “Nationalists”, see 1958)->Nazis?

                  No. Have I claimed otherwise? Straw man.

                  “As for the J. Pal. Studies… where have I said anything racist about it?”

                  What is the basis for the slurs you seem unable to avoid using?

                  “As for Nazism & Zionism… YOU have admitted to it yourself…”

                  A mind reader!! I knew it!!! Are you related to Michael Oren?

                  I think what entertains me the most (and I admit, you are very entertaining) – the thing that tickles me, the thing that really makes it worth while is this – in your head, I am convince you think you are winning these exchanges.

                  When I’m done with you, I’m going to go back and list all the climb downs I’ve forced you into.

                • “Greater Israel”… Humm… Funny that Israel, that is, your “Zionist Entity” has given up the Sinai, all for the sake of Peace, seemingly in violation of this immutable creed…
                  (Ssssshhhh… No… let’s not ruin your love affair with “Zionism = Racism/Expansionism”).
                  The purpose of listing those Italians, Poles, French, Hungarians, Lithuanians, Latvians &c, was to demonstrate that all of these movements were national-liberation ones, just like Zionism, yet you wouldn’t dream of alluding to Nazism with them, being the anti-Semitic dope you are.
                  Next we have my criticism of the J. Pal. Studies…
                  Edited by Rashid Khalidi, a fierce anti-Zionist, an ardent advocate of the “One-State” Sol, but best of all, an enthusiastic promoter of the PLO.
                  Furthermore, the recent edition of this PLO-Fanzine, featured one N. Gordon… Working @ BGU, I know for a fact that Gordon is a hack, having been twice, quite nearly fired from the professorship position he has, due to an inability to maintain adequate citations(Israeli academic rules require at least one peer-reviewed published article, per annum, for a tenured professor). A recent independent study by the Free University of Berlin, recommended the closure of his department(due to gross political bias).
                  If that’s the J. Pal. Studies form of “scholarship”, it deserves the flak it gets.(Of course, it would take us all day to cover the adulations to and aggrandizing of Noam-”American Imperialism, Socialist Revolt”-Chomsky, etc).
                  You drew the equivalence ‘twixt Zionism & Nazism:
                  “Zionism is a political ideology based on the idea of supremacy of an ethnic group over a territory.
                  They are not equal, but there is certainly a good deal of overlap.”

                  They don’t even overlap. Zionism is antithetic to Nazism. Nazism sought to erase the nation-state, by dividing the world based on race, and creating a dichotomous world based on that marker.
                  Zionism seeks to preserve the uniqueness of each people, and therefore does declare that the Jewish people is just like any other:pure and simple.(See the list above, of Poles, Hungarians, Lithuanians, Latvians, &c)…
                  Finally, where has Khalidi ‘busted’ CifWatch/CAMERA? Where are those “declassified documents”?
                  When I’m done with you, on the other hand, you’ll be tasting dirt from all those lies you have been forced to retract…
                  How’s that soil feeling, on your tongue yonder? :D
                  P.S.
                  I am not related to Oren(sadly)… Are you related to Khalidi? Or maybe Abbas?… Nah, probably Assad(Your Ba’athist soughing, sounds just too authentic :D).

                • “Israel, that is, your “Zionist Entity” has given up the Sinai, all for the sake of Peace”

                  You mean it observed international law? Amazing. Is Israel bigger or smaller than when it was first declared to exist?

                  “The purpose of listing those Italians, Poles, French, Hungarians, Lithuanians, Latvians &c, was to demonstrate that all of these movements were national-liberation ones, just like Zionism, yet you wouldn’t dream of alluding to Nazism with them.”

                  On the contrary. All nationalist movements share common ground. This isn’t specific to Nazism and Zionism. It applies to the movements you listed. It doesn’t mean they are Nazis.

                  “Next we have my criticism of the J. Pal. Studies…
                  Edited by Rashid Khalidi, a fierce anti-Zionist”

                  Would being a Zionist disqualify him also? Or just being an anti-Zionist? You make it sound like its an insult.

                  “an ardent advocate of the “One-State””

                  So if he supported a two-state solution, this would somehow improve his academic credentials in your eyes? How does that work?

                  “Sol, but best of all, an enthusiastic promoter of the PLO.”

                  Khalidi’s credential outstrip anything you will ever dream of in your meagre existence. You and I know this to be true.

                  “Furthermore, the recent edition of this PLO-Fanzine, featured one N. Gordon…”

                  So basically your entire basis for discounting a respected peer reviewed journal – is that it featured work from someone you claim is a hack.

                  Racism sounds a far more plausible reason.

                  “Working @ BGU…”

                  BGU? A Jewish University? Oh dear God!!?? Well we can’t have an employee of that Zio-fanzine producing “institution” commenting can we?

                  Yeah, sounds ridiculous doesn’t it? You have a pretty low opinion of me, I used to work at Cambridge, should we write them off too?

                  “You drew the equivalence ‘twixt Zionism & Nazism:
                  “Zionism is a political ideology based on the idea of supremacy of an ethnic group over a territory.
                  They are not equal, but there is certainly a good deal of overlap.””

                  So when someone expressly says “they are not equal” – in your head, that translates as “they are equivalent”. Gotcha. You can retract and apologise now…wait…what am I saying?

                  “They don’t even overlap.”

                  Yes they do.

                  “Zionism is antithetic to Nazism.”

                  No it isn’t.

                  “Finally, where has Khalidi ‘busted’ CifWatch/CAMERA?”

                  Still waiting for Adam to approve the messages. I wonder if he is thinking about not approving them…surely not.

                • “Is Israel bigger or smaller than when it was first declared to exist?…”(Nice touch on the “first declared to exist part”).
                  Nothing to say about the fact Israe gave up those territories, despite your screeches of “Greater Israel”… Humm… something doesn’t add up, not that you would see it.
                  Funny, that Israel was attacked on the day after its creation, in violated of your trumpeted Intl. Law, and you don’t care; Also, you don’t seem care that nearly all the world’s nations have recognized the 1949 armistice agreements.
                  All National-liberation movements share the same values? Sure… That doesn’t make them Nazis, nor does it mean that they overlap with a movement that sought to eradicate ethnic-nationalism to begin with(reminding you, and your beloved Stormfront surely can vouch for this, that Nazism divided the World on racial grounds, NOT ethnic/cultural/lingual ones).
                  As for Khalidi:
                  Any establishment that would publish a discredited professional(Gordon in this case, and the charges against him and his Dept., are on public record), is therefore liable to severe scrutiny(regardless of his stance on Zionism).
                  Any “academic” raising the clarion call for the PLO, is a loon.
                  And any “scholar”, working in contravention of Intl. Law, that is against the two-state solution which is the universally recognized formula for solving the conflict, is hardly a “scholar”; more like a propagandist; Hence, “Fanzine”…
                  “I used to work at Cambridge”… Uh-huh… And I flew to the moonBack in the real world though, you’re a (very) measly and worthless troll, who also has a knack for Baathism, and Nasserism… I wonder how Cambridge feels about that…? :D
                  “Khalidi’s credential outstrip anything you will ever dream of in your meagre existence. You and I know this to be true.”
                  No, I don’t know this to be true, in my case (I certainly don’t bother myself with Khalidi’s quasi-academic abilities; I don’t doubt your lack thereof)…
                  But it’s all rather odd consider your disparaging view of Oren, who is a celebrated Author, Graduate of both Columbia & Princeton… Now that is something truly, to be envied…(I admit, I am not a New York Times best-seller, unfortunately).
                  Finally, your pitiful excuse for the lack of evidence to the purported “declassified documents” or Khalidi’s dismissal of CifWatch/CAMERA…
                  Interestingly, any of your other “brainfarts” here did not undergo moderation… This one, miraculously did(Ah, that blasted Mossad, eh?, Ask Chomsky, he’ll know all about it, his comments here have been disappearing mysteriously too :D)
                  What can I say “Avram”… The odds seem stacked against you… Mossad has now started to tamper with your comments… what’s next :D? Rearranging the groceries in your fridge :O?
                  Run back to “Cambridge”, while you still can!

                • I should also point out that there are overlaps between Palestinian nationalism and Nazism. Again, this isn’t intended to be an insult, just a statement that I would assume to be obviously true.

                • And again…
                  Garibaldi and Mazzini->Nazis?
                  Gaullists->Nazis?
                  Pilsudski->Nazis?
                  Lithuanian Partisans->Nazis?
                  Romanian Independence fighters->Nazis?
                  Hungarian anti-Communists(aka Nationalists, see 1958)->Nazis?

        • Indeed Commentary101!

          Calling anything other than Nazism by that name minimises the horror that was (is) Nazism.

          However I think you’ll agree that history up until the present time does show a disturbing affinity between the two at least in their hatred of Jews.

      • I find calling me a coward for refusing to say what you obviously want me to say an insult, and I repeat, if you said that to my face I’d most likely resort to physical violence.

        And no, I have not equated Nazism to Islam – that is exactly what you have been goading me to say, but I haven’t.

        Out of interest, what do you call people who give the Nazi salute, praise Hitler as a hero and call their kids Hitler?

        • “And no, I have not equated Nazism to Islam – that is exactly what you have been goading me to say, but I haven’t.”

          Well done, that wasn’t so hard was it?

          • I understand that now that schools are on holiday you’re not able to consult with your English teacher, but perhaps when you return after the summer break you could ask for extra classes in English Comprehension.

            I have not equated Nazism to Islam, but neither have I agreed with you.

            Although I have not, at your request, equated Nazism to Islam, that doesn’t mean that perhaps it isn’t nearer the truth.

            The facts speak for themselves, and for all your ignoring them those facts are just that: facts.

            • Now you’re stuck between being banned and having to do a C101 style climb down. Mind that fence doesn’t chafe.

              • What do you call people who give the Nazi salute, praise Hitler as a hero and call their kids Hitler, “Avram”?

              • That’s rich, after you’ve been thoroughly gutted and eviscerated here…
                “Avram”, you better return to Stormfront/Mondoweiss to revise…
                Your handlers will not appreciate this :D…

          • What do you call people who give the Nazi salute, praise Hitler as a hero and call their kids Hitler, “Avram”?

      • You really are a sorry piece of work, like a child who pushes the boundaries, “Avram”. You are perfectly clear about the rules and you know full well how insulting you are.

        At best, you are a nuisance like a plague of mosquitoes. But your half-baked comments and thoughts as facts stay online here to be gobbled up by similarly twisted individuals and bed in their twisted ideas.

        You are the last person I am going to enter into debate with about who should be banned.

        Islamism does indeed have aspects of Nazism in its da’wah and attitude to non-Muslims. It is a supremacist authoritarian ideology just like Nazism, which expresses its wish to rule the world, just as Hitler did about his thousand year Reich. It wants to destroy Jews just as Hitler did and enslave other kufar just as Hitler enslaved untermenschen.

        Zionism, as well you know, wants Israel to live.

        There’s simply no comparison between Islamism and Zionism (which you would realise if you studied more) except in the minds of Israel/Jew haters who make the supreme category mistake by describing the latter in terms of the former.

  9. You are a hater, “Avram” and I neither know nor care where this animus against Israel and Jews comes from or what has caused it. You should not be allowed to vent it on us, however.

    For all I know you may equally be a liar, but unlike pretzelberg, I don’t pretend to read minds.

    Suffice it to say that your posts here show a pattern which skates perilously close to conflating Zionism with Nazism.

    And I, too, thought that was against the rules of this blog.

    • Can you point to an instance where I have “come close” to conflating Zionism with Nazism?

      Do you support the banning of Biodewotsit for conflating Nazism and Islamism?

      • It’s Biodegradable and where did I “conflate” Nazism and Islamism?

        I provided links to Islamists giving the Nazi salute and news articles documenting actual cases of Palestinian controlled media praising Hitler and calling the kids Hitler, there was also a link to a news article reporting that “UNESCO cuts funds for Palestinian magazine for publishing pro-Hitler article”.

        Draw your own conclusions but don’t dare to accuse me of making statements I have not made.

  10. Avram, are you from Australia?

    I only ask, because there was another, really annoying troll I remember getting fed up with on CiF (I think) a few years ago, who posted in much the same irritating manner as you.

    What is it – attention deficit syndrome or are you merely attention seeking?

    • I call Bipolar disorder
      The way He, at one point, owned up to a certain accusation, then categorically rejected it, though you all needed to do was scroll up, and see how he uttered those very words.
      As for the Australian connection, he did mutter something about “Surfing” earlier, I suspect you might well be right!

  11. Avram, Mondoweiss is a radical anti Zionist site, run by left wing Jews like Philip Weiss who only allows radical left wing Jews and Islamists to post on there. I tried to post on there and got barred twice.
    It should be known, the reason they barred me was Mondoweiss tried to give the impression the Palestinians couldn’t have commited the Fogel massacre.
    Here’s the article.
    http://mondoweiss.net/2011/04/itamar-video-says-settlement-had-night-and-day-perimeter-surveillance.html

    Annie tried to give the impression that a Thai worker did it.
    That was the big conspiracy theory of the left.
    Ofcourse we learned that the Palestinians did commit this massacre.
    We also learned, Fogel Baby-Stabber ‘Proud of What I Did’
    You can read the article here.
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/144760

    I wrote on there when will Annie Robbins retract her lie that Thai workers commited the massacre.
    Then the next thing i know, i was barred from the site.
    Then i used another screen name and wrote this.
    So i find this interesting Annie, you try to get people banned on here, but you have no problems writing lies on here. When your lies are exposed, you want that person banned for exposing them.
    Mondowess is no different then the Arab dictators and the Ayotollah’s who run Iran. No opposition is allowed.

    It should be known, Max Blumenthal also wrote on there, that Thai workers were responsible for the Fogel massacre.
    I’m amazed at the anarchists who can believe the lies they say.
    http://mondoweiss.net/2011/03/after-itamar-exploring-the-cynical-logic-that-makes-everyone-a-target.html

    Even after it became known that a Palestinian commited the massacre, Blumenthal made excuses for this Arab terrorist.
    The man is a sicko who turns a blind eye to the Palestinians genocidal media against Israel.

    As Caroline Glick said, The fact that the Palestinians from Fatah and Hamas alike are Jew-hating racists should surprise no one who has been paying a modicum of attention to the Palestinian media and general culture. Since the PA was established in 1994 in the framework of the peace process between Israel and the PLO, it has used the media organs, schools and mosques it controls to spew out a constant flow of anti-Semitic propaganda. Much of the Jew-hating bile is indistinguishable from anti-Jewish propaganda published by the Nazis.

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