Global March to Jerusalem violence update: & +972′s Lisa Goldman gets owned by IDF on Twitter


Though GMJ organizers’ ambitious anti-Zionist plan for a million man march on Israel’s borders (part of an effort by Arabs and far-left “activists” to “steal Jerusalem from the hands of the illegal Zionist occupation) has, thus far, seemed to have failed miserably, here’s a brief update on GMJ related violence today:
  • Approximately 150 violent rioters in Bethlehem hurled rocks and firebombs at Israeli security personnel (see video below).
  • Approximately 200 rioters in Qalandia hurled rocks and firebombs at IDF forces. 
  • Though the media (including the Guardian’s Phoebe Greenwood) have been uncritically repeating Palestinian claims that politician Mustafa Barghouti was hit in the head by a tear gas canister, requiring medical treatment, the IDF contradicted these claims stating definitively that Barghouti was hurt in a brawl that broke out among the Palestinians over who would lead the protest march. 
  • The IDF responded to Palestinian violence with non-lethal riot dispersal means.

Elsewhere there was this exchange between +972′s Lisa Goldman and the IDF on Twitter.

I just couldn’t help but weigh in.

Here’s a photo of just one of the “protesters” in Bethlehem today – aka, Palestinian child abuse.

43 comments on “Global March to Jerusalem violence update: & +972′s Lisa Goldman gets owned by IDF on Twitter

  1. My Twitter client has approached meltdown over the war of narratives. “Peaceful protesters” vs “Noble Defenders of the Innocent State”.

    Adam has lamented several times about Israel’s right to defend its borders. I asked multiple times, but it seems to be a touchy subject:

    Where exactly are these borders Adam is keen to defend?

    I open the floor to discussion.

    • I’m feeding the troll, but Israel’s borders with Egypt and Jordan was established by the peace treaties signed by those countries. Everywhere else, the border are TBD.

        • Just because a border hasn’t been officially established with a peace treaty, that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. A border like the one with Lebanon is simply where Israeli controlled territory ends and Lebanese controlled territory begins.

            • We know exactly what territory Israel controls. Israel controls its state-owned territory and Areas A and B of the West Bank. Therefore, Israel’s de facto borders are where its control ends. I”m not sure why you’re having trouble with this.

              • Well, Israel is not permitted to acquire territory through war. So what Israel controls isn’t the right test – that is only the test of what land occupies.

                Israel could control the entire West Bank (which it arguably does) – that wouldn’t make it part of Israel. Expansionism is illegal, and such gains are not legitimate.

                Why are you having so much trouble with this?

            • We know that Israel cannot acquire territory by war, so presumably, it’s more or less the green line, right?

              Maybe you know but we don’t. Israel did acquire terrritory by war already – start to learn to live with this. By the way the border is not the green line but to be discussed when the Palestinians will be ready to negotiate seriously.

                • Don’t worry dubi we have been living with your crappy and irrelevant UN and ICJ for years and living good without giving a whatever about their “legal” opinions. It must be the same UN whose Commission on the Status of Women (CSW) has allowed arguments about protecting the “traditional values” to trump the human rights of women.
                  What a joke… Maybe you should tell your female family members and friends to accept the wise and unquestionable authority of this reputable super authority.

                • Advocacy for the theft of land and the oppression of another people is pretty pathetic.
                  What have Northern Ireland and the UK to do with the topic of this article?

              • I should also say that Israel’s refusal to accept international law as a basis for negotiating that border has, unfortunately for everyone concerned, led to the green line becoming the internationally recognised border.

                • Re. international law

                  I think the Israeli policy re. the West Bank is pretty shitty.

                  But when did any country ever give a shit about “international law” or about what the “international community” had to say?

            • ‘So you can defend a border without knowing where it is? How does that work?’

              All one need know is that for most protestors/would be invaders, the borders are those of ‘From the River to the Sea, Palestine with be free’.

              Those are the borders envisaged by Palestinian and other Arab nationalisms ab initio. Palestinian and Israeli Jews were entitled to do pretty much anything to thwart their ambition, including enlarge Israel’s borders, and occupy territory, the only thing which has brought their enemies to the negotiating table.

            • ‘We know that Israel cannot acquire territory by war, so presumably, it’s more or less the green line, right?’

              With territorial swop, as per the Geneva Accord and Annapolis principles. But first the P.A. has to agree to it, or no deal.

              Only occupying territory has brought Israel’s enemies to negotiation, the fact with is routinely airbrushed from your narrative.

              • Israel has consistently refused to acknowledge international law as a basis for negotiations, preferring instead to use Zionist territorial ambitions for the reference point. Bit of a sticking point methinks.

                Largely immaterial now. Israel has rendered the two-state solution unobtainable, and more and more leading figures are coming around to the fact that a single state seems to be the only solution.

                • ‘Israel has consistently refused to acknowledge international law as a basis for negotiations,’

                  That’s not true.

                  a) her interpretation of international law may be different from e.g. yours (and all law requires interpretation)

                  b) her enemies defied international law for at least 40 years

                  c) that’s rich from some some who himself

                  i) denies b) and

                  ii) has consistently objected to the notion of a Jewish state with a Jewish right of return upon which international law and partition is based

                  ‘preferring instead to use Zionist territorial ambitions for the reference point. Bit of a sticking point methinks.’

                  You and yours have objected to any Zionist ambitions e.g. that of any kind of Israel or Jewish state for at least 40 years, and some even to this day.

                  Only the 67 conquests brought her enemies to any kind of recognition of Israel. Before 1967 no kind of Israel was recognised. You constantly reverse the course of history, and erase the past.

                  It’s wonderful allegorical interpretation, but it’s fiction.

                  ‘preferring instead to use Zionist territorial ambitions for the reference point. Bit of a sticking point methinks.

                  Largely immaterial now. Israel has rendered the two-state solution unobtainable,’

                  Not true, as Norman Finkelstein himself has said. The Geneva Accord shows the way.

                  Moreover the 2-state solution is one to which you and those on whose behalf you profess to speak have raised objections a priori e.g. you don’t an Israel or Jewish state should have been founded in the first place.

                  ‘and more and more leading figures are coming around to the fact that a single state seems to be the only solution.’

                  Not Norman Finkelstein. And not Israelis.

                • “Israel has rendered the two-state solution unobtainable, and more and more leading figures are coming around to the fact that a single state seems to be the only solution.”
                  No, that’s just the latest in a long line of phony arguments used to supplant a state for the Jewish people with an Arab/Muslim state in its place. I don’t know what ‘leading figures’ is supposed to mean except to say those who you’d like to plump up. This is just lipstick on the same old ugly pig.

    • “Where exactly are these borders Adam is keen defend?”
      The better question is where do the “peaceful activists”, i.e., racist, supremacist rioters, think they are? For the answer, one only needs to have a look at the GMJ website, and find they correspond exactly to the borders fabricated by the imperialist British government in 1922. Imperialism is something the Islamic world certainly respects, being such old hands at it themselves, and giving it yet another try today.

      • Israel’s borders correspond exactly to the borders fabricated by the imperialist British government in 1922

        Please explain that statement.

      • The rioters are “racist, supremacist”???

        Where on earth did you get that from?

        And saying “the Islamic world” is into imperialism is just hate speech.

        Calm down, luv.

        • “Calm down, luv.” I am calm, luv. And I don’t hate anyone. Let me repeat that, in case you missed it. I don’t hate anyone. Not even haters (even if I hate their offerings). If you think I’m mistaken in my comments try correcting me with an argument using facts instead of a label.
          If you’re looking for hate speech, just tune in to an Arab media outlet, or someone trying to breach Israel’s borders, or someone trying to erase Jewish history in Jerusalem, or the U.N.H.R.C. Those would be examples of hate speech.

    • Oh, and by the way, it’s not so much borders that they’re attacking, but rather the Jews. That might be something worth noting for a better understanding of the situation in the M.E. and the motivation of the Arab/Islamic supremacists there.

    • Funny how anonymous Israel bashers claim that they have rights that supercede the rights of the very real Israel state. But then, dubi, nobody but a brain dead twit seems to give you credence. Speaking of which, are you seriously updinging your posts?

      Stay classy, Whiner.

  2. That Lisa Goldman… good grief… her Facebook postings are a stream-of-consciousness spew of whingeing about Israel. Virtually every post about Israel is critical of the Jewish State. Compare this with her postings about Arab countries: varied in nature but overwhelmingly sympathetic in tone, even those posts which are critical of the regime in question. Oh for the days before Internet when she wouldn’t have been able to plague us from the cold comfort of her little life with her cats in a flat in Canada.

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  4. So far this march has FIZZED.The rest of the world is getting weary of these stunts.Most people have lives to live,and have had enough of these poor palestinians who do nothing to better their lives,hoping that others will do it for them…….

    Lisa Goldman HTF is she,kick her to the kerb…..

  5. Since Israel,Israelis and Israel supporters started fighting back against these anti-Israeli stunts,the world is getting a different picture, not just that one sided anti-Israeli racist Guardian view.

    Lisa Goldman,Rachel Shabi,Neturei karta we seem to have more than our fair share of these people…………..

  6. Ben White has an article in Aljazeera titled..”Palestinians forge new strategies of resistance”……

  7. Seeing the results of the Global Farce to Jerusalem this strategy must be called “damage control”.

  8. It seems Norman Finkelstein is right for once…this is all a “cult movement” which really doesn’t interest the normal Palestinians as they are never able to get more then a few hundred out to these protests

  9. George Galloway like the true and brave leader that he is,prefers to march with his mouth,far far away from all the action.

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