‘Trigger’ from BBC’s ‘Only Fools and Horses’ says “Don’t attack Iran” in Guardian letter


Trigger - "intellect has rapidly diminished over the years until it reached its current level of hilarious stupidity"

Roger Lloyd Pack - "intellect has rapidly diminished over the years until it reached its current level of hilarious stupidity"

Cross posted by Richard Millett

It’s a shame when one of Britain’s best-loved comedy actors joins with the forces of darkness to come to the defence of one of the world’s most reviled regimes, but such is the fate of Roger Lloyd Pack who played Trigger in BBC’s Only Fools and Horses.

Lloyd Pack is a seasoned anti-Israel activist and so it is no surprise to find his signature among the usual suspects in a letter to yesterday’s Guardian supporting Stop The War Coalition’s Don’t Attack Iran Campaign.

Ironically, the BBC website even gives the following description of Trigger:

“Although initially a (relatively speaking) sharp-minded villain Trigger’s intellect has rapidly diminished over the years until it reached its current level of hilarious stupidity.”

Who said art doesn’t sometimes mirror life?

The Guardian website even generously links the letter to the Don’t Attack Iran Campaign website. Why take out an expensive ad in a national newspaper, hire an expensive London venue or print millions of leaflets when all you need do nowadays is write a letter to The Guardian who will give you free advertising space if you’re anti-Israel.

The familiarity of these hardcore anti-Israel signatories is positive in as much as it shows how so alone they are in their support for such an oppressive ideology:

Tony Benn,
Jeremy Corbyn MP
Brian Eno
Lindsey German
George Galloway
Kate Hudson,
Jemima Khan
Ken Loach
Roger Lloyd Pack
Lowkey
Len McCluskey
John McDonnell MP
John Pilger
Michael Rosen
Jenny Tonge

You’d have thought that after her forced resignation from her party after wishing away Israel’s existence they might have left Jenny Tonge off for once but, then again, her recent statements that “Israel is not going to be there forever” and “then they will reap what they have sown” ties in nicely with Ahmadinejad’s genocidal desire to wipe Israel off the map.

Some say Ahmadinejad was mistranslated and that he merely wanted to eradicate Zionism. It’s the same weak defence that commentators like The Guardian’s Michael White and The New Statesman’s Mehdi Hasan put up for Tonge.

Let’s forget that Israel and Zionism are not mutually exclusive and gloss over Ahmadinejad’s “mistranslation” and listen to Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei who, as reported by Press TV, “described Israel as a cancerous tumor that must be removed”. It doesn’t get more unambiguous than that and straight from the fool’s and horse’s mouth.

And calling it an attack on Iran is like calling Operation Cast Lead an attack on Gaza or on the Palestinians when, in actual fact, it was a legitimate attack on the terrorist group Hamas in self-defence. Attacking Iran’s nuclear sites will also be a legitimate act of self-defence unless Iran opens itself up to a full nuclear inspection in accordance with its non-proliferation treaty obligations, something that it has so far proved suspiciously unwilling to do.

And calling itself Stop The War Coalition is as equally disingenuous. Let Them Die Coalition would be far more accurate judging by their calls for non-intervention in Libya and, now, Syria.

The Guardian letter compares the build up to a possible war with Iran to that with Iraq. But Stop The War Coalition’s approach is itself reminiscent of Neville Chamberlain’s appeasement of another evil regime.

Galloway and German say they aren’t pacifists and Galloway has said that World War Two was a just war, but how can he, and we, be so sure he would have called it that at the time.

Stop The War Coalition is, basically, an organisation that supports non-intervention against regimes that are anti-American and/or anti-Israel. They were ecstatic when pro-American/pro-Israel Mubarak fell in Egypt but have criticised NATO’s ousting of anti-American/anti-Israel Gaddafi and will no way want Assad to fall with the negative impact that would have on Iran and, ultimately, Hezbollah and Hamas.

The hypocrisy of the signatories to The Guardian letter is fully exposed when Stop The War Coalition feels comfortable standing back watching Libyans and Syrians slaughtered in their droves while defending the vile Iranian regime and staying silent about the continued oppression of Iran’s women, gays, Jews (the 25,000 strong community is limited to one MP), Bahais, Kurds and anyone wanting to live a life in Iran as free as those signatories themselves can do in the west.

15 comments on “‘Trigger’ from BBC’s ‘Only Fools and Horses’ says “Don’t attack Iran” in Guardian letter

  1. Hang on. The letter says “An attack on Iran would risk a conflagration across the region.”

    How is that “anti-Israel”??

    The hypocrisy of the signatories to The Guardian letter is fully exposed when Stop The War Coalition feels comfortable standing back watching Libyans and Syrians slaughtered in their droves while defending the vile Iranian regime

    Where is Tony Benn defending the Iranian regime??

    The Stop The War Coalition is about British citizens opposed to certain British military campaigns.

    This is a pretty silly attempt at a smear.

    • Pretz, Richard’s point is simply that the signatories of the letter are wildly anti-Israel.

      And, as far as StWC, no, they are not merely a group of Brits concerned about British military campaigns.

      StWC has been in bed with radical Islamists since its beginning – including the Muslim Brotherhood – and represent a perfect example of the red-green alliance.

      http://blog.thecst.org.uk/?p=1575

  2. The more desperate Israel’s supporters get, the more dishonest their tactics become. Hard to know where to start with Richard’s typically dishonest tactics.

    ““Although initially a (relatively speaking) sharp-minded villain Trigger’s intellect has rapidly diminished over the years until it reached its current level of hilarious stupidity.””

    The character, not the actor. A 7 year old would have spotted that.

    “The Guardian who will give you free advertising space if you’re anti-Israel.”

    Wanting to protect Iranian people from illegal US-Israeli aggression does not make one anti-Israel.

    “The familiarity of these hardcore anti-Israel signatories is positive in as much as it shows how so alone they are in their support for such an oppressive ideology”

    Wanting to protect Iranian people from illegal US-Israeli aggression does not make one a supporter of the Iranian regime. Conflation of “people” with “regime” is a standard tactic common to nationalists and racists.

    “Ahmadinejad’s genocidal desire to wipe Israel off the map”

    Which have been debunked entirely and are not believed by anyone with even an atom of honesty.

    “It’s the same weak defence that commentators like The Guardian’s Michael White and The New Statesman’s Mehdi Hasan put up for Tonge.”

    Ahmadinejad has been quite consistent in calling for regime change in Israel. He has been quite consistent in saying that his “solution” to the “Zionist regime” is…wait for it…a referendum. Dear God. Democracy!! RUN!!!

    “And calling it an attack on Iran is like calling Operation Cast Lead an attack on Gaza or on the Palestinians when, in actual fact, it was a legitimate attack on the terrorist group Hamas in self-defence.”

    Except, of course, that the vast majority of people killed during the Gaza Massacre (or Operation Cast Lead to use the statist terminology) were predominantly innocent men, women and children. The vast majority of the damage was caused to civilian infrastructure.

    Perfectly consistent Richard. More war, more lies, more pathetic drivel.

    • Dubi – you are the one who has conflated “people” with “regime”. I am not aware of anyone who is advocating a full-scale war against Iran – even the most hawkish are merely advocating a targetted strike on the REGIME’s nuclear facilities, thereby averting the self-evident and frankly terrifying threat of the REGIME being able to obtain nucleaer weapons.

      Where do you, or your fellow-travellers in the “Stop the War” coalition, get the idea that this is somehow a threat against the Iranian people? It’s not – it’s entirely a threat against the fascist, sexist, homophobic Iranian REGIME.

      Got it? I doubt it.

      Perfectly consistent dubi. More lies, more support for indefensible illiberal regimes, more pathetic drivel.

      • The Israeli regime simply wouldn’t claim to be attacking Iranian civilians. Just as it claimed to be attacking Hamas in the Gaza Massacre.

        The Iranian regime is clearly a danger to its own people, but it’s not a threat to Israel. Frankly its an insult to the IDF to suggest it is.

        “More lies, more support for indefensible illiberal regimes, more pathetic drivel.”

        Not that the accusers on this site have a track record of substantiating their claims, but you will not find a single instance of me defending the regime. I think it’s brutal, and criminal. But then so is the Israeli regime, and the US regime, and the Saudi regime, and the Syrian regime, and so on.

        Bottom line – any military aggression against Iran will be illegal. No ifs, no buts. Israel needs another criminal aggressive act on its scorecard like I need a hole in the head.

    • “Ahmadinejad’s genocidal desire to wipe Israel off the map”

      “Which have been debunked entirely and are not believed by anyone with even an atom of honesty.”

      Repeating a lie on thread after thread…

      http://cifwatch.com/2012/03/07/guardian-reader-on-belligerent-jewish-race-72-recommends-not-deleted-by-cif-moderators/comment-page-1/#comment-69199

      http://cifwatch.com/2012/03/07/guardian-reader-on-belligerent-jewish-race-72-recommends-not-deleted-by-cif-moderators/comment-page-1/#comment-69200

      Now why does that tactic sound familiar?

      Answer professor:
      When Iranian students chant “marg bar dictator”, they mean:
      1. Just expressing disdain, if they catch Ahmedinajad they would just have a nice little talk with him in order to express their disdain personally…
      2. Literally kill him.

      Knowing you, you’d insist it’s the first one.

      • “Repeating a lie on thread after thread…”

        If you honestly still believe the “wipe Israel off the map” myth, you’ve made the transition from someone I disagree with to someone not worth conversing with.

        • After al-gharqad made mincemeat of you proving your absolute and total ignorance and maliciousness against israel I can understand very well your aversion. A pity dubi, I routinely send copies of your posts to my friends who don’t believe the level of hatred of Israel in the so called intellectual circles in Europe. Most of them have no doubts anymore.

        • “you’ve made the transition from someone I disagree with to someone not worth conversing with.”

          Now how will I survive that?…
          But it’s OK, hamass-lickers usually run away with their tails between their legs when they can’t answer simple questions like:

          When Iranian students chant “marg bar dictator”, they mean:
          1. Just expressing disdain, if they catch Ahmedinajad they would just have a nice little talk with him in order to express their disdain personally…
          2. Literally kill him.

          Instead, apologists for islamofascism keep repeating their lies thread after thread after thread…

          Dubi, why don’t you go and offer to be a human shield for your buddy’s nuclear installations?

          Or since you are an expert in Farsi, I have an even better advice to you:

          مادرتو بكن

    • “the character not the actor. A 7 year old would have spotted that”

      A 7 year old might also have spotted the fact that Richard immediately followed this quote by a comment on how this as an example of art mirroring life.

      Ah well, back to school for you dubi.

  3. ‘Except, of course, that the vast majority of people killed during the Gaza Massacre (or Operation Cast Lead to use the statist terminology) were predominantly innocent men, women and children’.

    Isn’t it odd that – by Hamas’ own admission – it lost 600-700 of its own fighters in Cast Lead (out of a total of 1,116 killed in Gaza)?

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/hamas-admits-600-700-of-its-men-were-killed-in-cast-lead-1.323776

    • Math is not a forte of dubi sackloth. His professional areas are only (falsification of) history, (distortion of) law, the Persian language and Jew/Israel bashing. Are they not enough for an individual? Yo shouldn’t expect too much from him….

  4. “Ahmadinejad’s genocidal desire to wipe Israel off the map”

    ‘Which have been debunked entirely and are not believed by anyone with even an atom of honesty.

    He has said various things, but never precisely that his intention is to proceed to atomic weaponry by fair means or foul, and that he is modifying his ballistic missiles to this end, but he has said that a black and filthy microbe has been created in the Middle East in the form of the Zionist regime, and he does drape his rockets with banners calling for Israel to be wiped from the map, presumably indicating to the watching crowds that the necessary germicide will be carried by them come the day therapeutic triumph. An atom of honesty is not what Ahmadinejad wants but atoms of a more destructive kind.

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