Guardian’s sympathy towards Khadr Adnan & indifference to his terror group’s victims, by the numbers


Surviving friends and family members of the more than 200 Israeli civilians murdered by Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), an Islamist terror group which split from the Muslim Brotherhood because the MB was deemed too moderate, will never be provided a forum at the Guardian.

Here's a photo of just a few of PIJ's victims: Tali Hatuel, 34, and her daughters - Hila, 11, Hadar, 9, Roni, 7, and Merav, 2 - killed in 2004 when terrorists opened fire on the car they were traveling in.

The unimaginable pain and grief of loved ones – victims of the staggering cruelty of violence meted out by a movement inspired by the desire to rid a region of the immutable offense of a sovereign Jewish presence – will likely never be expressed at ‘Comment is Free’.

Inversely, the Guardian published five separate sympathetic pieces about the Islamic Jihad terrorist, Khadr Adnan, who is scheduled to be released by Israeli authorities in April after being held in administrative detention for his involvement with PIJ.

Here’s a summary of the coverage:

  • Guardian/CiF pieces sympathetic to Islamic Jihad terrorist, Khader Adnan: 5
  • Guardian/CiF pieces critical of Adnan or sympathetic to PIJ victims: 0
  • Total words used in five Guardian/CiF pieces sympathetic to Adnan: 3008
  • Total words in those five pieces even noting Adnan’s “alleged” “militant” affiliations: 33
  • Total number murdered in Israel by PIJ in terror attacks: At least 217
  • Total number of children murdered by PIJ in terror attacks: 15
  • Number of those injured or maimed by PIJ attacks: Several Hundred
  • Most obscene characterization of Adnan in the Guardian (courtesy of Randa Musa, Adnan’s wife, in her CiF commenary): “I know my husband is not selfish.”

Indeed, here’s the selfless Adnan passionately encouraging fellow Palestinians to sacrifice their lives in one last full measure of devotion in the service of murdering innocent Israeli civilians.

Finally, here’s  a list of those murdered in terrorist attacks planned or carried out by Adnan’s terrorist group:

Ayelet Shahar Levy, 28, and Hanan Levy, 33, Gad Marasha, 30, of Kiryat Arba; Yonatan Vermullen, 29, of Ben-Shemen, Ayelet Shahar Levy, 28, and Hanan Levy, 33, Ayelet Shahar Levy, 28, and Hanan Levy, 33, yala Levy, 39, of Elyachin; Smadar Levy, 23, of Hadera; Lydia Marko, 63, of Givat Ada; and Sima Menahem, 30, of Zichron Yaakov, Inbal Weiss, 22, of Zichron Ya’akov; Yehiav Elshad, 28, of Tel-Aviv; and Samuel Milshevsky, 45, of Kfar Sava Steven Kenigsberg, 19, of Hod Hasharon, Maharatu Tagana, 85, of Upper Nazareth; Michael Altfiro, 19, of Pardes Hanna; Shimon Edri, 20, of Pardes Hanna; Meir Fahima, 40, of Hadera; Aharon Revivo, 19, of Afula; Alon Goldenberg, 28, of Tel Aviv; Mogus Mahento, 75, of Holon; and Bella Schneider, 53,  Nisan Avraham, 26, David Smirnoff, 22, of Ashdod; Liron Avitan, 19, of Hadera; Avraham Barzilai, 19, of Netanya; Dennis Blumin, 20, of Hadera; Eliran Buskila, 21, of Hadera; Zvi Gelberd, 20 of Hadera; Violetta Hizgayev, 20, of Hadera; Ganadi Issakov, 21, of Hadera; Sariel Katz, 21, of Netanya; Vladimir Morari, 19, of Hadera; Yigal Nedipur, 21, of Netanya; Dotan Reisel, 22, of Hadera; David Stanislavksy, 23, of Netanya; Sivan Wiener, 19, of Holon; Zion Agmon, 50, of Hadera; Adi Dahan, 17, of Afula; Shimon Timsit, 35, of Tel-Aviv, Eliyahu Timsit, 32, of Sderot, Adrian Andres, 30, of Romania; Boris Shamis, 25, of Tel-Aviv; and Xu Hengyong, 39, of China, Moshe Hezkiyah, 21, Ari Weiss, 21, of Ra’anana, Osnat Abramov, 16, of Holon; Indelou Ashati, 54, of Hadera; Liat Ben-Ami, 20, of Haifa; Ofra Burger, 56, of Hod Hasharon; Ilona Hanukayev, 20, of Hadera; Suad Jaber, 23, of Taibe; Iris Lavi, 68, of Netanya; Eliezer Moskovitch, 40, of Petah Tikva; Nir Nahum, 20, of Carmiel; Esther Pesachov, 19, of Givat Olga; Aiman Sharuf, 20, of Ussfiyeh; Sergei Shavchuk, 35, of Afula; Anat Shimshon, 33, of Ra’anana; Sharon Tubol, 19, of Arad, Pedro Magram, 51, of Kfar Sava, and Gastón Perpiñal, 15, of Ra’anana; Madin Grifat, 23, of Beit Zarzir, Dror Weinberg, 38, of Jerusalem; Samih Sweidan, 31, of Arab al-Aramsha; Tomer Nov, 19, of Ashdod; Gad Rahamim, 19, of Kiryat Malachi; Netanel Machluf, 19, of Hadera; Yeshayahu Davidov, 20, of Netanya; Igor Drobitsky, 20, of Nahariya; David Marcus, 20, of Ma’aleh Adumim; and Dan Cohen, 22, of Jerusalem, Yitzhak Buanish, 46; Alexander Zwitman, 26; and Alexander Dohan, 33. Rabbi Yitzhak Arama, 40, Noam Apter, 23, of Shilo; Yehuda Bamberger, 20, of Karnei Shomron; Gavriel Hoter, 17, of Alonei Habashan; and Zvi Zieman, 18, of Reut,  Moshe (Maurice) Aharfi, 60, of Tel-Aviv; Mordechai Evioni, 52, of Holon; Andrei Friedman, 30, of Tel-Aviv; Meir Haim, 74, of Azor; Hannah Haimov, 53, of Tel Aviv; Avi Kotzer, 43, of Bat Yam; Ramin Nasibov, 25, of Tel-Aviv; Mazal Orkobi, 20, of Azor; Ilanit Peled, 32, of Azor; Viktor Shebayev, 62, of Holon; Boris Tepalshvili, 51, of Yehud; Sapira Shoshana Yulzari-Yaffe, 46, of Bat Yam; Lilya Zibstein, 33, of Haifa; Amiram Zmora, 55, of Holon; Igor Zobokov, 32, of Bat Yam. Foreign workers: Krassimir Mitkov Angelov, 32, of Bulgaria; Steven Arthur Cromwell, 43, of Ghana; Ivan Gaptoniak, 46, of Ukraine; Ion (Nelu) Nicolae, 34, of Romania; Guo Aiping, 47, of China; Li Peizhong, 41, of China; Mihai Sabau, 38, of Romania. Zhang Minmin, 53, of China died of her wounds on January 13. Eli Biton, 48, of Moshav Gadish; Shahar Shmul, 24, of Jerusalem Assaf Moshe Fuchs, 21, of Kibbutz Gvat, Kiryl Shremko, 22, of Afula; Hassan Ismail Tawatha, 41, of Jisr a-Zarqa; and Avi Zerihan, 36, of Beit Shean, Assaf Abergil, 23, of Eilat; Udi Eilat, 38, of Eilat; Boaz Emete, 24, of Beit She’an; and Chen Engel, 32, of Ramat Gan, Avner Mordechai, 58, of Moshav Sde Trumot, Mazal Afari, 65, of Moshav Kfar Yavetz Gabriel Uziel, 20, of Givat Ze’ev  Avihu Keinan, 22, of Shilo, Eyal Yeberbaum, 27, and seven-month-old Shaked Avraham, both of Negohot, south of Hebron; Ze’ev Almog, 71, of Haifa, and his wife Ruth Almog, 70; their son Moshe Almog, 43, and grandsons Tomer Almog, 9, and Assaf Staier, 11, all of Haifa; Zvi Bahat, 35, of Haifa; Mark Biano, 29, of Haifa, and his wife Naomi Biano, 25; Hana Francis, 39, of Fassouta; Mutanus Karkabi, 31, of Haifa; Sharbal Matar, 23, of Fassouta; Osama Najar, 28, of Haifa, cook; Nir Regev, 25, of Nahariya; Irena Sofrin, 38, of Kiryat Bialik; Bruria Zer-Aviv, 59, her son Bezalel Zer-Aviv, 30, and his wife Keren Zer-Aviv, 29, with their children Liran, 4, and Noya, 1, all of Kibbutz Yagur. Lydia Zilberstein, 56, George Matar, 59, of Haifa. Alon Avrahami, 21, of Or Yehuda, Adi Osman, 19, of Kfar Sava, and Sarit Schneor-Senior, 19, of Shoham Tali Hatuel, 34, and her daughters - Hila, 11, Hadar, 9, Roni, 7, and Merav, 2 – Adaron Amar, 20,  of Eilat; Aviad Deri, 21, of Maale Adumim; Ofer Jerbi, 21, of Moshav Ben-Zakai; Ya’akov (Zelco) Marviza, 25, of Kibbutz Hama’apil; Kobi Mizrahi, 20, of Moshav Mata; and Eitan Newman, 21, of Jerusalem. Elad Cohen, 20, of Jerusalem; Aiman Ghadir, 24, of Bir Makhsur; Aviv Hakani, 23, of Ashdod; Za’ur (Zohar) Smelev, 19, of Ofakim; and Lior Vishinski, 20, of Ramat Gan. Tal Bardugo, 21, of Jerusalem, Nir Sami, 21, of Jerusalem, and Israel Lutati, 20, Gideon Rivlin, 50, of Ganei Tal, itzhak Buzaglo, 40, of Mishmar Hayarden; Aryeh Nagar, 37, of Kfar Sava; Yael Orbach, 28, of Rehovot; Ronen Reuvenov, 30, of Tel Aviv. Odelia Hubara, 26, of Jerusalem,  Dan Talasnikov, 21, of Nir Galim, Bi Shude, 46, from Jilin province in northeastern China. The Palestinian workers: Salah Ayash Imran, 57, of Khan Yunis, and Muhammed Mahmoud Jaroun, of Khan Yunis. Avi Karouchi, 25, of Beersheba, Yevgeny Reider, 28 of Hermesh Avihai Levy, 17, of Beit Hagai Aviad Mansour, 16, of Otniel, Dana Galkowicz, 22, of Kibbutz Bror Hayil, Dov, 58, and Rachel Kol, 53, of Jerusalem Michael Kaufman, 68, of Hadera; Pirhiya Machlouf, 53, of Hadera; Sabiha Nissim, 66, of Moshav Ahituv; Jamil Qa’adan, 48, of Baka al-Gharbiya; and Ya’acov Rahmani, 68, of Hadera, Genia Poleis, 66, of Hadera Larissa Grishchenko, 38, of Hadera, Haim Amram, 26, of Netanya; Alexandra Garmitzky, 65, of Netanya; Daniel Golani, 45, of Nahariya; Elia Rosen, 38, of Bat Hefer; and Keinan Tsuami, 20, of Petah Tikva. Yosef (Yossi) Shok, 35, of Beit Hagai, Philip Balhasan, 45, of Ashdod; Rozalia Beseneyi, 48, and Piroşca Boda 50, of Romania; Marcel Cohen, 73, of Nice, France; Ariel Darhi, 31, of Bat Yam; Victor Erez, 60, of Givatayim; Binyamin Haputa, 47, of Lod; David Shaulov, 29, of Holon; Lily Yunes, 42, of Oranit. Lior Anidzar, 26, of Tel Aviv. Daniel Wultz, 16, of Weston, Florida (USA).  Eilat residents Emi Haim Elmaliah, 32, Michael Ben Sa’adon, 27, and Israel Zamalloa, 26.  Liran Banai, 20, of Ashkelon, Shimon Mizrahi, 53 of Bat Hefer and Eli Wasserman, 51, of Alfei Menashe Maj. Eliraz Peretz, 32, of Eli and Ilan Sviatkovsky, 21, of Rishon Lezion.

121 comments on “Guardian’s sympathy towards Khadr Adnan & indifference to his terror group’s victims, by the numbers

  1. Adam,

    It should be noted that of the 343 comments on the article in the Guardian that 300+ comments were clearly disgusted with the idiot who decided to publish an article by his wife.

    It should also be highlighted that the commentator Berchman was one of the only posters who had any sympathy for Adnan.

    • Berchmans hardly misses any thread that impinges even slightly on Israel. His comments are designed to provoke and are superficial parroting in the extreme. He has almost certainly had more comments deleted than any other commenter in CiF history yet he ‘survives’.

      One day, a Guardian stand up guy will be floored when asked to explain in a live interview why this obsessively anti Israel/Jewish commenter has survived the axe when such talented and well informed commenter/writers such as MoveAnyMountain have been ‘disappeared’.

  2. People will wax lyrical about the “heroes” on their side, that’s the nature of the beast.

    For the record, I think CiFWatch is doing a good job on this one.

    But, as a counterpoint, it’s worth noting the unprecedented coverage given to Gilad Shalit, when his group, the IDF, is responsible for killing thousands of innocent victims.

    • “People will wax lyrical about the “heroes” on their side, that’s the nature of the beast.” doo-doo

      Oh, what an unfair generalization from doc doo-doo. Which people are you talking about? Name them?

      At least by now everybody knows *your* side: it´s the side of the beast.

    • “…the IDF, is responsible for killing thousands of innocent victims.” doo-doo-te-do-da-day

      Hey, doc doo-doo, you are committing that fallacy again. Listen, the IDF is just an institution and institutions cannot kill, only people can.

      Just delicious, isn´t it?

    • “For the record, I think CiFWatch is doing a good job on this one.

      But, as a counterpoint, it’s worth noting the unprecedented coverage given to Gilad Shalit, when his group, the IDF, is responsible for killing thousands of innocent victims.”

      Dubitante, so magnanimous in your criticsm of the Guardian’s coverage of Andan. Basically, Israel is the shittest thing in the world, except when its only as shit as the next worst thing. You are such a pompous, bigoted prick.

  3. But, as a counterpoint, it’s worth noting the unprecedented coverage given to Gilad Shalit, when his group, the IDF, is responsible for killing thousands of innocent victims.

    Innocent victims like Adnan. That you consider them innocent as “an international legal expert” – this is only natural, they are killing Jews only (or each other). And the IDF is Shalit’s group?! Very good Dubi.

      • Civilians used as human shields (as opposed to Israeli civilians targeted in shopping centers).

        Only useful idiot hamass-lickers still deny this:

          • Only useful-idiots&hamass-lickers don’t want to see the difference between an army which warns civilian population before it bombs in order to avoid civilian casualties (and the civilian casualties are the human shields) and a terrorist organization which INTENTIONALLY TARGETS women, children and innocent civilians in general in shopping centers.

            • But we know Israel has targeted civilians before. It’s not even controversial. They don’t always do it, but they have certainly done it. Take the Gaza massacre for example.

              Whether you intentionally target civilians or recklessly endanger civilians is neither here nor there. They are both terrorism. When a group in Gaza fire a rocket into Sderot, that’s terror. When the IDF fires a Keshet mortar into a densely packed refugee camp, that’s terror.

              Only the biased and the blind would contend they are different.

              • “Take the Gaza massacre for example”. This would be the Gaza massacre that was massively publicised by Hamas and its useful idiots in UNRWA, HRW and other discredited NGOs and later found to be a complete exaggeration of the truth?

                Rather like the Jenin “massacre” in which it was trumpeted in the worldwide media that hundreds or even thousands of civilians had been brutally slain and buried in mass graves etc only for the truth to later emerge that a total of roughly 50 died, less than half of whom could be counted as non-combatants.

                Don’t get me wrong – it is terrible when even one civilian dies, but Israel is faced with a brutal enemy that wishes its utter destruction and who hides in “densely packed refugee camps” firing rockets (aimed at school buses) from school playgrounds etc. You tell me – how does Israel defend itself from this without harming civilians?

                • “This would be the Gaza massacre that was massively publicised by Hamas and its useful idiots in UNRWA, HRW and other discredited NGOs and later found to be a complete exaggeration of the truth?”

                  Found to be a complete exaggeration of the truth? By whom, may we ask?

              • “Take the Gaza massacre for example.” doo-doo

                What massacre?

                “They are both terrorism. When a group in Gaza fire a rocket into Sderot, that’s terror. ”

                When Gazans voted for an eliminationist terrorist mafia, that´s their choice. Then they´ll face the consequences. Or do you think Gazans are irresponsible children, doo?

                “When the IDF fires a Keshet mortar into a densely packed refugee camp, that’s terror.” doo-doo

                BS, doo-doo. Your moral equivalence won´t stick. Sending rockets against a country is an act of war and war is hell. Deal with it.

              • “Only the biased and the blind would contend they are different.” doo-do-da-dee

                Projectiong again, doo-doo? You are the blind ideologue here. Now, go whine to the blog admins.

              • “Take the Gaza massacre for example.”

                Yeah, the type of thing that usually happens when you mix the combatants indiscriminately with the civilians—women and children—as Hamas, Hezbollah, the Taliban and most other Islamic jihadist organizations do. But I don’t expect you to slight your friends and allies.

              • REAL MASSACRES, like the ongoing one in Syria by the Assad regime, 7,000+ dead, AND DEFENDED by Russia, don’t cross the find of the likes of dubi.

                It must be “counter revolutionary” to bring it up.

                Where are the “anti-war” activists, the “progressives”, the invokers of “international law” to be found? Demonstrating infront of a Syrian embassy/consulate?

                Happy Nakba dubi!

          • Ok, so today, doo-doo put his “human rights” mask.

            So, doo-doo, file a complaint to Hamas. In fact, move your fat lazy ass and go give your lectures on phony international-lawyerism to the Gazan Salafists. Just go, now!

        • al-gharqad

          For Dubi Hamas members are innocent civilians. Calling him an idiot makes a very bad name for the genuine mentally challenged.
          He’s not an idiot – he is something much worse, he’s a school-book example of the racist crooks poulating the so called “international human rights organisations” and the UN..

          • The distinction between combatant and civilian is not something for me to decide on. It’s well established in international humanitarian law.

            Unfortunately, for Peter here, a 7 year old playing football is clearly a would-be suicide bomber, and a card carrying member of the Qassam brigades and should be targeted.

            It’s pathetic, but perfectly consistent.

            • Unfortunately, the Qassam brigades and others have used pregnant women and children and ambulances as their tools of terror, thus making it impossible for Israel to rule out anyone as a potential terrorist.

              Once again, you blame Israel for the blatant disregard the Islamists show for the lives of their children.

                • The facts? Have I said anything untrue?

                  IDF spokesman? Is that one of your ad hominem remarks you are so terribly allergic to when made by others?

                • Because doo-doo uses double-standards and exploits the classic demopathic tactics. That´s the tactics used by islamists all over the West, exploiting freedom of speech to undermine it, posing as victims. He learned all that from his masters, the palestinians.

                • “That’s the IDF spokesman talking, the facts paint a different picture.” doo-doo-dee-doo-da-dey

                  Says the Hamas spokesperson. You sound a bit frustrated, doo-doo. Beware of bursting hemorrhoids.

            • Unfortunately, for Peter here, a 7 year old playing football is clearly a would-be suicide bomber, and a card carrying member of the Qassam brigades and should be targeted.

              Maybe you are some kind of clairvoyant now Dubi reading my secret thoughts? Could be interesting to find any reference in any of my posts saying this. What I do say that as a self-declared legal expert you should know the difference between accidentally killing a civilian during combat or unintentionally hitting a civilian when targeting armed enemy combatants and hiding behind civilians as a standard tactic.
              But I acknowledge that to expect to consider this fine distinction is way over your and your moral and intellectual ability.

              • “What I do say that as a self-declared legal expert”

                I’ve gone out of my way to say that I’m not a legal expert, and never cite my own legal opinion, unlike others here.

                “you should know the difference between accidentally killing a civilian during combat or unintentionally hitting a civilian when targeting armed enemy combatants and hiding behind civilians as a standard tactic.”

                And you should know the difference between accidentally killing a civilian, and recklessly killing a civilian. If the IDF launches a highly inaccurate weapon into a densely populated civilian area, it has failed to take the necessary precautions, and this constitutes terror.

                Dropping a 1 tonne bomb on a house to kill a “terrorist”, also killing 12 members of his family does not constitute an accident. It constitutes reckless endangerment.

                A great many of the IDFs civilian victims during the Gaza massacre were killed when any fighting had finished and the IDF had control of an area. It’s simply deceitful to try to claim otherwise.

                • The voice of the human right activist. The “reckless” killing of this mass murderer who hid among his children probably saved many Israeli lives. I know saving Jews by killing their murderers is reckless.

                  A great many of the IDFs civilian victims during the Gaza massacre were killed when any fighting had finished and the IDF had control of an area.

                  Straight from the book; The fantasies of a Jew hating human right activist by Dubi.. published by the Siryan Human Rights Comission

                • Listen, doo-doo, you are a proven anti-Semite, no one can´t take that away from you. You earn it.

                  And you are projecting once again: you are the whiner, the desperate crying-baby, a palestinian victimologist and appeaser. It´s all YOUR work, doo-doo. Don´t spit on your own legacy.

                • “I’ve gone out of my way to say that I’m not a legal expert, and never cite my own legal opinion, unlike others here.”

                  Dubitante. In other words, a modest and measured sense of your own self-worth, and yet you always come out smelling of roses in comparison to the Zionists. But can you measure your superiority by any other standard than that of the Jew?

            • “It’s well established in international humanitarian law.” doo-doo

              Oh, my, now doo-doo goes his mysticism of international-lawyerism.

              Go preach this BS to your hero, al Assad. He´s the one doing the real massacres, now, against his own people. And here you are, obsessed about the Jenin hoax and all.

          • You’re right, peterthehungarian. Arguing with an idiot is maybe less of a waste of time than with a hamass-licker.
            See for example: “Whether you intentionally target civilians or recklessly endanger civilians is neither here nor there. They are both terrorism.”
            Now go argue with morally bankrupt hamass-lickers who say nothing about Darfour, Syria, etc. but whine when a terrorist goes on a hunger strike…

            • Feel free to resort to ad-hominems if you can’t content with my argument. Although they contravene the CifWatch comment policy, I’m OK with it as it demonstrates the complete absence of a counterargument.

              • Ad hominems? Go and sue us at the ICC. Poor Dubi..
                Just for the record this is only you who has no real arguments only pure and unadultered propaganda lies.

              • “contravene the CifWatch comment policy”

                hamass-lickers contravene human morality

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

                Doug Walton has argued that ad hominem reasoning is not always fallacious, and that in some instances, questions of personal conduct, character, motives, etc., are legitimate and relevant to the issue[9], as when it directly involves HYPOCRISY, or actions contradicting the subject’s words.
                The philosopher Charles Taylor has argued that ad hominem reasoning is essential to understanding certain MORAL issues, and contrasts this sort of reasoning with the apodictic reasoning of philosophical naturalism.[10]

                • You’re citing philosophers, whilst using terms like “Hamas-licker”? Name calling is something kids usually grow out of by the age of 10. Do try to grow up.

                  CiFWatch comment policy:

                  “Comments which are off-topic, ad hominem, racist, vulgar or include threats of violence will be deleted”

                • “Name calling is something kids usually grow out of by the age of 10. Do try to grow up.” doo-doo whiner

                  Whining and throwing hysterical tantrums when frustrated, as you do, is something little babies usually grow out of by the age of 5.

                • Your comments are certainly ad hominem and vulgar,

                  Truth hurts sometimes dubi.
                  You spread here utterly baseless lies about Israel and the Israelis and you are offended?

                • Doo-doo is exploiting the standard demopathic tactics. He spreads all type of lies, generalization and ideological crap, for free. Then, when challenged, he whines like a cry-baby. Let´s see if this blog will surrendered to this manouver or not.

                • “My opinions are based on the documentary record, as much as it might pain you to admit it.”

                  Like this one:

                  “Whether you intentionally target civilians or recklessly endanger civilians is neither here nor there. They are both terrorism.”

                • Your “opinion” dubi is based on totally irrelevant hostile to the Jews/Israel sources.
                  Speaking about ad hominem maybe do you remember who called Adam Levick a liar repeatedly? Is it not you poor violated lily?

                • “Your “opinion” dubi is based on totally irrelevant hostile to the Jews/Israel sources.”

                  The UN, the ICJ, Independent researchers, humanitarian organisations. Admittedly I don’t use the MFA, but then I don’t use Palestinian sources either.

                  “Speaking about ad hominem maybe do you remember who called Adam Levick a liar repeatedly? Is it not you poor violated lily?”

                  I said he told a lie, which he did. I didn’t call him a liar. Several people called me a liar, however. I’ve no interest in Adam as a person, I’ve no interest in attacking him as a person, but when he publicly says things which are demonstrably untrue, I’m perfectly entitled to point out the lies.

                • The UN, the ICJ,…

                  As I said – totally irrelevant and hostile to Jews/Israel sources.

                  …Independent researchers… Like Ben White, Goldstone etc.
                  …humanitarian organisations. like the UN HRC populated by Sirya, Libya, Cuba etc.

                  I said he told a lie, which he did. I didn’t call him a liar.

                  You certainly gave a brand new aspect of the expression “word twisting”

                • “The UN, the ICJ,…

                  As I said – totally irrelevant and hostile to Jews/Israel sources.”

                  Supporters of most criminal regimes would feel the same way.

                  “…Independent researchers… Like Ben White”

                  Don’t recall reading a single thing Mr White has written…

                  “Goldstone etc.”

                  Proud, Zionist Jew, who has, in his own words, lived his whole life for Israel…

                  “…humanitarian organisations. like the UN HRC populated by Sirya, Libya, Cuba etc.”

                  Amnesty, ICRC, Human Rights Watch.

                  Difficult as it must be for you, the documentary record is well established, but I’d be interested to know which independent sources you think I should be using which I’m currently not.

                • Amnesty, ICRC, Human Rights Watch

                  Much better. All of these have nothing to do with human rights any more.
                  AI is interested in the human rights of poor innocent Moazzam Begg, HRW begs for money from the Saudi champions of human rights for their fight against Zionists, ICRC who constantly deny the right to display the Star of David.

                  Proud, Zionist Jew, who has, in his own words, lived his whole life for Israel Yes dubi certainly. And I’m Atilla the Hun in my own words.
                  Difficult as it must be for you, the documentary record is well established,
                  Why should be difficult for me ignoring the bullshit included in the reports in these sources? Or you find it difficult to not taking seriously the Tootfairy anymore?
                  … but I’d be interested to know which independent sources you think I should be using which I’m currently not.,
                  I’m not your research assistant dubi.

                • “Much better. All of these have nothing to do with human rights any more.”

                  Don’t feel the need to back that up will you? We all know you’re an expert on these things.

                  “AI is interested in the human rights of poor innocent Moazzam Begg,”

                  I thought you said they’re not interested in human rights any more? Make your mind up.

                  “HRW begs for money from the Saudi champions of human rights for their fight against Zionists,”

                  Again. please keep the unfounded claims coming, you’re quite literally making my case for me.

                  “ICRC who constantly deny the right to display the Star of David.”

                  Brilliant, thank you.

                  “And I’m Atilla the Hun in my own words.”

                  Right, he can’t be a Zionist Jew if he told the truth about the Gaza massacre…right? I mean, departing from the herd mentality, what was he thinking?

                  “Why should be difficult for me ignoring the bullshit included in the reports in these sources?”

                  I’m genuinely interested in how you form your opinions then. Prayer?

                  “I’m not your research assistant dubi.”

                  Let the record show that Peter cannot name a single independent source to back up his opinions.

                • Again. please keep the unfounded claims coming, you’re quite literally making my case for me.
                  Yes dubi, this is so unfounded that its founder left this organization disgusted by this fact.

                  Let the record show that Peter cannot name a single independent source to back up his opinions.

                  Your problem dubi that I don’t need your sources to know the facts because I can say them with my own eyes on the site indirectly or I know them from eyewitnesses. I know these sources are unreliable and not objective for your kind – they are Jews.

                  And let the record show? That I wouldn’t rely your “independent ” sources when their allegations are simply exactly the opposite what I see myself?

                • Right, he can’t be a Zionist Jew if he told the truth about the Gaza massacre…right? I mean, departing from the herd mentality, what was he thinking?

                  The truth? Gaza massacre? Thank you dubi for your proving here your objective and strictly independent record based opinion.
                  BTW maybe you don’t know yet but Goldstone changed his “truth” completely when others proved his truths are unfounded and malicious malicious slander.

                • “Your comments are certainly ad hominem and vulgar, but we’ll see if the comment policy is enforced.” hurt doo-doo

                  Yeah, let´s see. In the policy were to be enforced, a contumacious liar and ideological judeophobe like yourself would have been expelled a long time ago.

                • “Let the record show that Peter cannot name a single independent source to back up his opinions.” judge doo-doo

                  You really think you are in a court-room, don´t ya, doo-doo? And you think you are the judge, eh? Deciding about the actions of the Jews and giving moralizing lectures. Let´s play this little game.

                  So, let the record show that prof doo-doo distorted evidence, consistently and with obsessive mendaciousness. And he is a fraudsters, posing as an expert on so-called “international-law”, middle-eastern expert, farsi-linguist, Jewish history, etc, etc, etc.

                • Your comments are certainly ad hominem and vulgar, but we’ll see if the comment policy is enforced.

                  Fait accompli Dubitante, you know full well Zionists don’t play by the rules and lack your refined sense of fair play. You can now claim that you yourself are the victim of Jewish malice and double standards. A real hero of our time.

      • “Several people called me a liar, however. ” doo-doo

        You earned it, doo-doo. You built your reputation (or lack thereof) yourself.

        What´s your fantasy today? Are you a farcical farsi-specialist? Are you the new Bismarck? Are you John Lennon? Are you Julius Streicher?

          • Indeed. Doo-doo knows, doo-doo sees, doo-doo says. And free to spread his crap in here, and to whine like a baby when exposed. Go figure.

        • Hey, mostly brainless, why don´t you and prof doo-doo open your own blog? U can then whine to each other about Israel without having your lies challenged.

    • Here´s a lesson for you, mostly brainless:

      “No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country.” (General Patton).

      But, if you want to die for your enemies, you are free to do it. In fact, what are you waiting for?

    • “…there are two sides in this conflict, one vastly superior than the other….”

      Yes, there are indeed: One Jewish state vs. over a score of Arab or nearly sixty Islamic states. One vastly superior to the other, as you said—superior in the number of people and quantity of land area.

      As good proof as any that anti-Zionism is a stand for injustice. Thanks.

  4. Please note: Comments making generalizations about all Muslims will continue to be deleted, as well as most replies to these remarks.

    • You are surrendering to demopathic political-correctness. Prof doo-doo does endless generalizations about Israelis, Jews, Zionists and you-name-it, as his BS aren´t deleted at all.

      Very sad. But the blog is yours.

      • SerJew is certainly starting to show his/her true colours. You can take your hate somewhere else SerJew**ker

        • Aww, you´re so cute when upset, mostly brainless. Projection seems to be your choice when frustrated, eh?

          And, please, don´t use vulgar or offensive language.

          • Once again, doo-doo, regarding your pathetic “verdicts”, I give you the eloquent words of Peter Griffin: “Oh my God, who the hell cares?”

  5. hm, it’s quite possible to have sympathy for victims of attacks while also believing in the rule of law, and that people should not be held indefinitely without charge simply for their (unpleasant) views. otherwise, we would be locking up plenty of the commenters on this site…

    • “..we would be locking up plenty of the commenters on this site…” insanity

      Well, you should be lock for you inane and insane comments, still you are free to spew all the amount of platitudes and content-free nonsense as you wish. As long as you don´t generalize about all Muslims, which is the capital sin in the PC demopathic creed.

    • Sanity in your book inciting to suicide bombing is only having unpleasant views? I would use an other expression but who I am to lecture you?
      If you believe in the rule of law then you should know that keeping people indefinitely in administrative detention under the courts supervision is completely lawful (it has been introduced in Palestine by the British authorities btw) if they represent a clear and present danger to the physical safety of the public. In a normal democracy the right to live of the potential victims supersedes the right to a trial of the potential perpetrator.
      But I would be ready to deport him together with his family to the UK – the British taxpayers seemingly like house and feed murderous terrorists (see Abu Quatada) if their human rights are somehow threatened,.

  6. I just heard on the BBC that “Asian” businesses in Rochdale have been attacked by “white youths” with an apparently unconnected “far-right” group somewhere around having its members arrested.

    The BBC reported that 11 “Asian” men are currently on trial in Liverpool on charges of paedophilia, its victims being “white” girls and that I think was a quote from one of the “white youths” who was being accused of being racist.
    The criminal charges were given as the reason for the attacks and the BBC blamed the press and the “white youths”,

    Everyone in this country with a brain knows that the “Asian” men are not Hindus. They don’t come from Vietnam or Thailand. Everyone knows except the BBC, The Guardian and most politicians.

    I am not approving of any such attacks but until pot and kettle quislings start to call a spade a spade what hope is there of any problems being solved?

    I hope it isn’t that they aren’t going to be solved, that we’ll just be beaten deeper into the sewer while the paedophile gangs and the terrorists have privileged protection.

      • Oh, my, doo-doo describes herfself perfectly once again. You, like your pal mostly brainless, when frustrated (which seems to be your permanent state) resort to projection.

        Funny indeed.

  7. On topic: it is unbearable to see such a list of victims’ names and to be aware of just how ignored they are. Spat upon, really,by the terrorism supporters who come here to release their bile and worse and perpetuate hatred and death,

    I remember Tali and her children and Shalhevet Pass and Malki and many more. But there are too many to remember them all. None of them were terrorists and there is not one terrorist I would shed a tear over.

    When Sheikh Yassin was sent to his “virgins” a very funny animated cartoon spread around. It must have been the only positive thing connected with his evil life and well-deserved death.

    • The names of the victims of terror are so frequently forgotten. Everyone knows the name Fogel, but almost no one knows the name of the children who were slaughtered by IDF soldiers while playing football in Gaza 10 days after the Fogel murders.

      • Yes Dubitante, when bad things happen to Jews, we can count on you to point out that actually, it’s Jews who do bad things to other people. There’s nothing worse than being the victim of a Jew is there? Otherwise you be elsewhere, bleeding your heart dry over Syria, the Congo, Sudan, etc.

        • “Otherwise you be elsewhere, bleeding your heart dry over Syria, the Congo, Sudan, etc.”

          Are you kidding?! Actually risk his neck in a place where he truly knows there’s a real and uncontrived danger?! Please, Groovy, be reasonable.

          Speaking of which, I find it notable to compare the stink raised (when it happened and still now) when Rachel Corrie got killed after standing deliberately in a bulldozer’s path, with the crickets chirping from the anti-Zionists on the shooting dead of Marie Colvin in Homs, Syria, just for being there.

          If you want the measure of Israel’s enemies, it’s not the words (“Israel is a terrorist nation!”) but the actions (journalists’ choice of a base, gays’ fleeing direction etc.) that should guide you. In a perfect world, this would be noticed; in our world, no good Zionist deed goes unpunished, and no evil by the Islamic imperialists unwhitewashed, by the likes of Screwbitante and Mostly Hamas.

          • And article making the point more generally than Adam’s:

            Why is Khader Adnan being lauded for undertaking a hunger strike to protest his detention without a trial—when not a peep was made about his group Islamic Jihad’s terrorist murders of innocent Israelis? asks David Keyes.

            That anyone can call Adnan a hero for any reason is only a sign of the moral turpitude of our time.

            It surely is. Some Jew-hater called this terrorist ‘hunger strike’ faker “the ‘Palestinian’ Bobby Sands”. Of course such a comparison is ludicrous. Sands died and his name became a joke to schoolboys. He did no further harm.

            Some of the terrorists released in exchange for Gilad Shalit have of course gone back to their old ways.

            Someone today made a good point about Islamists stepping up their extremely murderous practices thanks to “politically correct” propaganda in the West.

            • “Someone today made a good point about Islamists stepping up their extremely murderous practices thanks to “politically correct” propaganda in the West.” Ariadne

              Prof. Richard Landes discusses extensively in his blog this phenomenon, the demopathic exploitation of Western political-correctness, guilt and freedom to undermine the West from within. It´s a suicidal trait of the modern “progressivist”, a malaise that spread from the universties to the media and law. Doo-doo is our perfect example of a full colaborator and enabler of this self-destrictive drive.
              Though by now, I think he might be just a committed palestinista. I.e., he might be a beneficiary (in his twisted vision) of the whole process.

              • Maybe there are attractions in getting up late, doing no work (unless posing or attacking for Pallywood counts), smoking exotic substances and enjoying all that at other people’s expense. Not to mention people seeing such wastes of space as “good people” while Israelis are all evil.

                On the generalised level you mention above, SerJew, don’t we just feel it in the misery that’s spreading around here. This society is unbelievably “dumbed down” for a start.

                Someone I read lately is of the firm opinion that globalisation will lead to civil wars.

      • Aww, doo-doo, as if you gave a damn about children anywhere. Give us a break. You only care about moralizing Israel. Period.

        BTW, why don´t you adopt a Darfurian refugee?

      • Independent from Reality and Respected by al qada, hamass, hezbullah, plo, pflp, Islamic Republic of Iran, FAKE “anti-war” NGOs, UN Human Rights council/commission (the one that wasn’t disbanded because it was overrun by Islamists) and socialists of various denominations.

        Happy Nakba dubi!

        • The Qassam Brigades never claim to be committing acts of terrorism when they fire rockets into Israel, they claim to be attacking military targets near the border in retaliation for land thefts, demolitions, arrests, killings etc.

          Israel never claims to be committing acts of terrorism when firing highly inaccurate mortars into densely packed refugee camps.

          Terrorism, for most people, is what the corporate media or their government tell them it is.

          • So, now doo–doo comes as the social-constructivist demodé. Well, what about Judeophobic international-lawyerists sucha as yourself?

            “international law, for most people, is what the corporate media or quangos representatives tell them it is.”

            Nice try, doo-doo. What´ll be your next sophomoric blunder?

          • “The Qassam Brigades never claim to be committing acts of terrorism when they fire rockets into Israel, they claim to be attacking military targets near the border…”

            That is actually correct, but it’s only part of the truth.

            The other, crucial part, the one you ignore, is that they regularly refer to Israeli Jewish women and children as “Zionist soldiers.” They consider every Israeli Jew a “soldier.”

            Israel (the IDF and government) doesn’t consider every Arab colonist woman and child a soldier, despite their children being brainwashed to aspire to be suicide-murderers. As usual, Israel’s enemies do project.

            And you aid and abet their evil cause. All in the name of “humanitarianism” and international “law,” of course.

            • Again, doo-doo uses his/her multiple “personas” when convienient. One day, he wears the enlightened international-lawyerist absolut despot and the next she´s the moral-relativist. The previous day she was a Bismarckian real-politker and then turned into a kumbaya-like fake humanist.

              This is pure unadultered intellectual dereliction. A classical trait of racist judeophobes, BTW.

            • “The other, crucial part, the one you ignore, is that they regularly refer to Israeli Jewish women and children as “Zionist soldiers.” They consider every Israeli Jew a “soldier.””

              Regularly refer to…? Genuine request for a citation. I also collect propaganda from Hamas and that would be a useful addition.

              It’s worth noting that whenever the IDF kills a Palestinian, it’s always a terrorist, even when it’s just some guy minding his own business. So it works both ways to some extent.

              “Israel (the IDF and government) doesn’t consider every Arab colonist woman and child a soldier, despite their children being brainwashed to aspire to be suicide-murderers.”

              Careful, you’re making some sweeping comments here. It would be very easy to point at the extremist settlers and say “look what Jews teach their kids” – we don’t do that because making sweeping statements is a good way to bury ones head in the sand and ignore the detail.

              “And you aid and abet their evil cause. All in the name of “humanitarianism” and international “law,” of course.”

              Not at all. I’m an opponent of all terrorism, whether the perpetrator is a cowardly Palestinian launching rockets hoping to hit Jews in Sderot, or a cowardly Israeli firing inaccurate munitions into densely packed civilian areas, hoping for an “accidental” civilian death. I’m an opponent of terror committed by British forces, by the US Army, by the Assad regime, by the Chinese.

              • “it’s always a terrorist, even when it’s just some guy minding his own business.”

                Like his business of firing a rocket into Israel.

                Happy Nakba dubi!

                And VICTORY to the Resistance against Islamofascism!

              • “Careful, you’re making some sweeping comments here. ” doo-doo

                Here, doo-doo, are two examples of YOU doing just that.

                -”Israel never claims to be committing acts of terrorism when firing highly inaccurate mortars into densely packed refugee camps”.

                -”Terrorism, for most people, is what the corporate media or their government tell them it is.”

                If this is not shameless hypocrisy and recidivist intellectual delinquency, I don´t know what is. And you still dare giving pathetic moral lessons?

              • “I’m an opponent of terror committed by British forces, by the US Army, by the Assad regime, by the Chinese.” doo-doo-dee-activist

                Pure moral relativistic BS. Why don´t you go showing your “outrage” at British, US, Syrina and Chinese blogs? You only have a monomaniac fixation on Israel.

                Happy nabka, doo-doo.

              • “I also collect propaganda from Hamas…”

                Then you already know all about the terminology I referred to.

                I have a handy “Zionist soldiers” citation of Hamas sources. But knowing you, the fact that it’s cited by IsraellyCool will probably enough for you to dismiss it.

                “It’s worth noting that whenever the IDF kills a[n Arab colonist], it’s always a terrorist, even when it’s just some guy minding his own business.”

                Usually it’s the other way round: What anti-Zionist sources claim to have been “just an average Arab Joe minding his own business” turns out to have been someone caught red-handed in a terrorist activity.

                “Careful, you’re making some sweeping comments here.”

                As the shoe fits, unless the site owner prohibits it. You’re not the site owner.

                “It would be very easy to point at the [Jewish inhabitants of Arab-colonized Judea and Samaria] and say ‘look what Jews teach their kids’ – we don’t do that…”

                You don’t do that? You are a laugh riot, you are. If anti-Zionists somehow hold themselves from spewing their vitriol on Jews of pre-1967 Israel (for tactical reasons—not because they think it’s undeserved), those of post-1967 Israel are a free-for-all to be vilified, demonized and permitted for bloodletting (cf. Tom Paulin, just one example among so many).

                “I’m an opponent of all terrorism,…”

                Didn’t you just say it’s a meaningless, subjective term? Make up your mind.

                “Israeli firing inaccurate munitions into densely packed civilian areas, hoping for an ‘accidental’ civilian death.” (Emphasis mine. ziontruth)

                Hoping? Hoping?! All of a sudden you know what’s in people’s hearts? Not only a proponent of legality over all moral considerations, but also a moral sage? You better watch it with that kind of megalomania.

                “I’m an opponent of terror committed by British forces, by the US Army, by the Assad regime, by the Chinese.”

                Do you post on all forums as Dubitante, or under other names? I want to check if you’re as busy criticizing those other cases you cite as you are for Israel here.

                (Reply to lower post) “Terrorism committed by people who claim to be Muslim is evil, but pales into insignificance compared to what us Judeo-Christian folk can get up to.”

                Ah, this is the marvelous Ward Churchillian line that I’m accustomed to from the trolls on FPM. Gotta love how “humanitarians” excuse Islamic imperialism with their tu quoque charge. Funny thing, they’re the first to cry foul on “whataboutery” when a pro-Israel defender brings up the behavior of the Jewish State’s enemies.

          • dubi, Who needs “corporate media” to tell them that

            - hijacking passenger planes and flying them into office buildings is terorism?
            - placing bombs on London buses and the underground is terrorism?
            - using poison gas on the people of Halabja Iraq is terrorism?
            - invading the 1972 Olympic village and murdering athletes is terrorism?
            - kidnapping journalists and video recording the beheading of the captive by men wearing masks and shrieking allah akbar is terrorism?
            - burning churches in Nigeria by Islamists is terrorism?

            Happy Nakba dubi!

            • This doo-doo talk about “coporate media” is nothing but the recycled accusation of Jewish Media Conspiracy. Doo-doo shows where she/he/it comes from…

            • All acts of terrorism, well cited.

              - Illegal destruction of Iraq following the Anglo-American assault, hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children killed.

              - Israeli assault on Lebanese civilians in 1982, pushing 20,000 innocent men, women and children dead. Easily Israel’s greatest crime.

              - Gaza massacre – 1400 dead, including 1000 civilians, around 350 children.

              - US invasion of South Vietnam, the greatest crime since WWII, 2,000,000 dead civilians.

              Terrorism committed by people who claim to be Muslim is evil, but pales into insignificance compared to what us Judeo-Christian folk can get up to.

              • “Terrorism committed by people who claim to be Muslim is evil, but pales into insignificance compared to what us Judeo-Christian folk can get up to.” doo-doo-shahid

                Doo-doo, you are nothing but an arm-chair Jihadist. Have a most happy Nabka!

              • dubi, Again I ask you:

                How do hamass, hezbullah, al qada “militants” dress to distinguish themselves from REAL CIVILIANS? What uniform do they wear

                Is a “child” with facial hair and an AK47, a child?

                Already the body count in your Assad dictatorship of Syria is 7,000+, and your Tzar Putins Russia is backing the Assad dictatorship.

                Happy Nakba dubi!

          • Poor dubi, all that education that was poured on you had little effect.

            You apparently think that Tucker Carlson is/was the President of the USA.

            BTW, below is a video of your favorite genocidal Islamofascist, leading one of his “Death to America”, “Death to Israel” rallies.

            A simple test dubi. Which man is the leader of a country with a nuclear program?

            Is it:
            a) Tucker Carlson
            b) Mahmood

            Happy Nakba dubi!

  8. Daled Amos shows what this terrorist ‘hunger strike’ faker was up to earlier and how deceitful NGOs omitted truth:

    This [was] not Adnan’s first hunger strike. In October 2010, Adnan initiated a hunger strike following his arrest by the Palestinian National Authority security services. At the time, the Palestinian Center for Human Rights (PCHR) (funded by the European Union; Ireland;Denmark; Norway; Christian Aid (UK); Grassroots International (US); and Switzerland, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark via the NGO Development Center) issued a statement, referring to Adnan as an “Islamic Jihad leader” and condemning his detention.

    Even his “own” people won’t put up with him but the antisemitic NGOs have never heard of anyone more saintly.

  9. Yeah, we feel your “pain”, doo-doo. We know you don´t like to recall all those propagandistic bluders that you and your ilk created, such as the Jenin hoax, the al Durrah pallywood show, the Tuvia Grossman case, etc, etc, etc.

    I told you, doo-doo, the Goebbels-style monologues are over.

    And a most sincere happy Nabka for you (I *really* mean it).

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