H/T AKUS
As we’ve noted (here and here) the Guardian’s Deborah Orr has advanced an argument based on one of the most peculiar examples of moral calculus I’ve ever come across.
Orr wrote:
“It’s quite something, the prisoner swap between Hamas and the Israeli government that returns Gilad Shalit to his family, and more than 1,000 Palestinian prisoners to theirs…[which is] an indication of how inured the world has become to the obscene idea that Israeli lives are more important than Palestinian lives….“At the same time, however, there is something abject in [Hamas's] eagerness to accept a transfer that tacitly acknowledges what so many Zionists believe – that the lives of the chosen are of hugely greater consequence than those of their unfortunate neighbors.”
As I noted previously, the logic is almost beyond comprehension, and implies that Israel should have demanded that Hamas not submit to the blatant racism of allowing over a thousand of their terrorist free in exchange for Gilad Shalit, and accept a one for one prisoner exchange, in the name of anti-racism.
Recently, the Guardian reported the following on the American Israeli, Ilan Grapel, detained in Egypt since June 12, on charges of spying:
Egypt is to release a US-Israeli citizen held since June on suspicion of spying, according to a statement issued by the office of prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu on Monday evening.
Israel will release 25 Egyptian prisoners in exchange for Ilan Grapel, who has been held without charge since he was arrested in Cairo on June 12.
So, employing Orr’s moral logic, both Egypt and Israel must believe that an Israeli life is 25 times more valuable than an Egyptian life – indicating a racism rate not nearly as odious as the relative worth of Israelis to Gazans, where Israeli life is 1027 times more valuable.
The one truly remarkable thing is that such clearly intuitive reasoning has, until now, eluded the greatest ethicists and moral logicians of our time.
Orr will no doubt be teaching her Israeli Racism Calculation Theory at an Arab funded UK university soon.
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October 25, 2011 at 9:36 am
benorr
I would really get pist of if I fout that I wasn’t worth at lest more than a thousands palestinians,or more than 25 Egyptians.
BTW Deborah Orr is not worth the worn out soles of my shoes……..
October 25, 2011 at 10:43 am
Eran
“Saudi sheikh offers $100,000 to kidnap an IDF soldier”
http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2011/10/saudi-sheikh-offers-100000-to-kidnap.html
October 25, 2011 at 11:30 am
Adam Levick
Thanks – I’m looking into that story now. Here’s the guy’s FB page
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000339945496&sk=wall
October 25, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Jon
Just out of curiousity, does this mean that Egyptians are racists for valuing each of their own people as worth the equivalent 41.08 Palestinians?
October 25, 2011 at 2:11 pm
AKUS
Good point, Jon. Clearly that is the case. So much for the universality of the Arab Spring.
Or maybe its that the Israeli are racists for not valuing Egyptians as little as Palestinians.
Perhaps Debbie Orr could write another article explaining how this ties into the exodus from Egypt.
BTW – she claims not to be “one of the chosen” – but that name … Deborah … very suspicious IMO …
October 25, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Ariadne
I call all this stuff “Arab arithmetic”. It started from that awful genocide Jews carried out, causing one Arab in 1948 (claiming Israel’s land) to become 17 Arabs in 2011 (claiming Israel’s land).
October 25, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Andy Gill
The whole world knows that the numbers in the Shalit deal were insisted upon by Hamas and not Israel.
The terms of the deal had nothing to do with the Jews regarding themselves as the chosen people, nor of their estimation of the relative value of Jewish and Palestinian lives.
You know that. I know that. Deborah Orr knows it too. She was simply trying to find something, anything, with which to smear the Jews, and ended up writing one of the finest examples of the new antisemitisim you are likely to see for a long time. She is now indelibly tainted and will never live this down.
The Guardian deserves to be prosecuted for printing her offensive crap.
October 25, 2011 at 8:58 pm
benorr
Just read this Deborah Orr twats tweets,and you will get an accurate picture of the state of mind of this women,some of the tweets are juvenile,some are dumb,and some are downright dumb.
Hard to believe that this woman actually works as a reporter,the kind of reporter that only the Guardian could or would want to employ……..
October 26, 2011 at 12:37 am
Relpo Miraculous
Palestinians are the trash fish of the Arabian desert. No surprise there.
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