Israel’s Prime Minister speaks truth to power

Yeah we don’t like Bibi. But most of us have the grace to admit he did well when he did well. Some can’t bear it and have to sneer.

In a recent speech by the head honcho of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt (you know who I mean, the archetypal cuddly bunnies of Islam in the world, and harbingers of peace, love and light – provided you do as they say – and gruesome murder if you don’t) insisted that the Arabs always want peace, and equally that the Israelis never did – that’s strong evidence of Islamist projective paranoia .

Imagine that you were an intelligent and curious alien beamed into the Middle East from another planet to observe the situation:

Given the content of the Arab press, the Palestinian press and TV, and Islamist poison in the media generally compared with Israel’s actions and reactions what would you believe (assuming of course you weren’t afflicted of the delusional mindset currently prevailing about “poor victimised Palestinians”),

Given particularly that

In return for the withdrawal from Gaza, as well as the wrecking of what the Jews left behind, there has been a non-stop barrage of rockets from these “peace-wanting” Hamas Palestinian lunatics;

Their charter announces openly that they want to eradicate Israel and its Jews – recently a Hamas leader compared the Jews to bacteria in a speech very reminiscent of the sort of Nazi analogies you can read about in the Arab press;

they deliberately school their children from kindergarten age in hatred and then bleat that their human rights are infringed;

That they sent out lunatics to murder civilians while they slept and rejoiced, danced and sang about this infamy;

That somehow or other they can never quite accept that if they stopped all this, they would get their state eventually (is that stupid or what? It’s certainly infantile);

Would you believe that this Palestinian entity would genuinely be interested in a lasting peace and could be trusted to do its part to maintain that, or would you agree that the Israeli government is correct to want to do its utmost to protect itself against such untrustworthiness, (at least until it has evidence that the Palestinian entity is capable of acting in good faith) which would include maintaining its settlement presence and the defensible borders it now has?

Wouldn’t the alien observer note how much Israel has ploughed into the Palestinian economy in humanity and good faith, spite of the fact that in return it has received only violence, insult and double-dealing from the entity’s leaders?

Wouldn’t it also note the reason for the closing of the Gaza crossings, given the murderous intransigence of the Hamas there, and perhaps find that reasonable. (Don’t forget that not only does the Hamas froth hatred at the mouth, it behaves it too, whenever it gets the chance).

Perhaps I am expecting too much to ask you to stand outside the situation and view it dispassionately given what you have written here in the past, but have a go anyway. These are objective facts on the ground, which can be observed and contextualised.

Ariadne- thank you for proving my point.

Ariadne – thank you for proving my point.

Ariadne, the Hamas and Islamists in general are masters of the big talk (remember Comical Ali?) and lies. Their mad prophet told them this is allowed to maintain the morale of troops, to prevent discord between man and wife, and generally to confuse kufar (taqiyya). Trouble is, it’s infectious and tends to cause trouble for them because they fall for their own rhetoric, get bitterly disappointed when the real world intervenes and react like toddlers who can’t have ice cream before tea.

The delusion has spread also to the MSM all over the world – in respect of the dewy-eyed reaction to the so-called “Arab spring.”

Dr Tarek Heggy, an Egyptian philosopher and student of the Arab/Muslim at the interface with the rest of the world, writes of the prisons of the Arab mind, which I believe applies to the Muslim world in general and is primarily responsible for the stupidity and intransigence we see (see http://www.alwaref.org/en/islamic-culture/127-the-prisons-of-the-arab-mind)

In particular, see

“… The first chain weighing the Arab mindset down and preventing it from joining the march of human progress which, according to the German philosopher Immanuel Kant, is moving towards the attainment of transcendental idealism, is the regressive, medieval, Bedouin understanding of religion. A large number of modern-day Muslims have never been presented with an interpretation of religion other than the one propagated by the enemies of reason and free thinking, from Ibn Hanbal in the tenth century to the founder of the Wahhabi-Saudi alliance in the Arabian Peninsula in 1744 (Mohamed ibn-Abdul Wahab, the spiritual father of Wahhabism, whose message was merged after his death with the ideas of Abul ‘Alaa Al-Mawdoody) to the ideas of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood. …”

and

“…The second chain shackling the Arab mindset is a cultural climate which has encouraged the spread of tribal values, including such negative values as individualism (instead of tolerance) and insularity (instead of open-mindedness)….

and

“… The problem of Arabic-speaking societies as well as of some non-Arab Muslim societies will not be solved by military confrontations, security measures or economic rewards and/or punishments. None of these measures address the core issue, which is essentially one of culture and knowledge. Accordingly, the most effective way of dealing with the problem is by adopting a level-headed approach based on a thorough understanding of the reasons behind the distinctive characteristics displayed by the contemporary Arab mindset…”

Not one Western government has even begun to try to understand the reasons Heggy mentions, even cursorily, and this is evidenced, as I have implied above, by the MSM’s and Western government’s over-idealisation of the “Arab spring” and its insistence upon approaching Islamist extremism as though Western cultural and idealistic values can be mapped onto it and it can be understood in those terms.

Nim, it’s understandable that given the current economic situation, Americans are increasingly unwilling to include Israel in their government’s foreign aid packages.

That might even be OK (I know it’s a big stretch) provided that it didn’t include the Palestinians either, but all it needs is American Muslim outrage and Obama will cave in and fund and arm their brothers in Palestine.

But why must it only be seen in money terms? What happened to principle?

How can it be more helpful to have internationally recognised borders where your state is only eight miles across, when at that point those borders cannot be defended?

Can you honestly imagine Obama or his successors or the Western powers supporting Israel unconditionally if she had to wage war (which would be almost a certainty) under those circumstances, rather than urging restraint as they always have?

“The rot set in when civilians were moved in, some of whom are worst fascists and racists than they say Muslims are.”

Speak for yourself.

“…who were not even born in Israel to move in…”, “…those Arabs who had lived in the area for generations,…”

You’re talking about Jewish newcomers from Eastern Europe in the 1880s? Maybe those from Poland in the 1920s? Maybe Jews born in Islamic countries coming in the 1950s? I want you to make a stand: Either the Jewish return to Palestine was always right, or it never was. If you maintain one standard for Jewish revenants before 1967 and after, then you need to explain it.

“A completely isolated Israel would be worst thing anybody would want.”

Hardly. An Israel conceding itself out of existence would be the worst thing.

“The biggest opportunity Israel missed was not to invite Hamas to peace talks.”

You mean the same Hamas with the charter that calls for extermination of all Jews? Maybe it was a missed opportunity for America in killing Bin Laden instead of inviting him to peace talks?

“The Arab mindset, added to their propensity for violent reaction when thwarted means that whatever Israel does now, the situation looks bleak.”

This has always been true. Always! Concessions never improve things, they only embolden the enemy.

“Israel may have no choice but to go back to 1967 borders — and that is the pragmatic truth.”

You so-called “pragmatists” have done enough damage with your blind adherence to concessionism against all reality of them only making Israel’s situation worse. Let the reality-based land-faithful Israeli Jewish Right take its place at the helm for a change, before you fanatical concessionists run the ship aground.

“Many Americans no longer want to include Israel in the foreign aid America gives.”

Good. As this aid comes with the price of telling Jews where and how much they can build on their own land, it’ll be great to get rid of it.

Great post, Mitnaged. Muslims are still killing their wives and daughters and poisoning the minds of their children and we pay some of them to do that. And want to give them Israel’s land.

I wondered if Arabic had a word corresponding to holistic. The word I found is
شمولي

In the Google translator the meaning given for this is “totalitarian”.

No psychiatrist could help that mind of full of crap.

Pretzelberg,

Here is a nice answer to your query (from ElderofZyon)

Penny,

Agreed, and that´s why the Mossad or IDF should target mainly the gangster leadership.