Were the canapés at the JNews launch last week really so delicious that guest Matt Seaton felt the need to commission two CiF articles on the subject in 5 days? On March 15th Miri Weingarten waxed lyrical about her new project and a few days later Keith Kahn-Harris pitched in with one of his signature cloyingly naive articles. Mr. Kahn-Harris may be in for some disappointment; there’s nothing to suggest that JNews is “a potential voice for peace” as stated in his piece, unless of course one considers the undermining of a sovereign state to be peaceful.
So what do JNews claim they will do according to Director Miri Weingarten?
“JNews will bring to public attention the authentic voices of those directly affected by the conflict and highlight the problems facing migrants and asylum seekers in Israel, the poor and the dispossessed, Arab-Palestinian citizens and the Bedouin. More generally in Israel-Palestine it will focus on the conditions of prisoners and detainees, the status and treatment of women, and the political and civil rights of Palestinians living under occupation and under the control of the Palestinian Authority.”
Translation: JNews will push to the fore stories which highlight the viewpoint of everyone except the Jewish Israelis.
“A key theme of JNews’s output will therefore be the provision of information, views and comment from alternative Jewish sources, which will demonstrate that it is perfectly possible maintain a critical Jewish perspective, but one that arises out of deep empathy for both Israelis and Palestinians.”
Let’s see how they’re doing on the ‘deep empathy’ front so far. Some of the main stories running on the JNews website at the time of writing are as follows: ‘Israel set to forbid mourning its Independence Day’, ‘EU Parliament endorses Goldstone Report’, ‘Childhood under fire; an exhibition of Gaza children’s drawings’, ‘No hiding place for criminals’ and an article about gender segregated buses.
At the same time, some of the main stories running in Israel itself were ‘IDF kills 2 attackers in West Bank trying to stab soldiers ’, ‘Government approves investment of 800 million shekels in Bedouin and Arab communities’, ‘Weekend riots flare up in Jerusalem’, ‘Kassam hits south of Ashkelon’, ‘Palestinians open fire on IDF ’, ‘Shalit becoming Ron Arad ’.
In other words, issues which actually concern the average Israeli such as attacks in all their various permutations by Palestinians or soldiers kidnapped by terrorists receive no coverage from JNews, but stories depicting Israelis as criminal, bigoted, bullying and violent do. Not only is this obviously as far away from balanced or empathic as it is possible to get, it is not journalism either but blatant political propaganda.
So let’s see if this already miserable start to JNews’ mission can be explained by the ‘souls at work’ as we say in Hebrew. As we already know, the Director is Miri Weingarten, formerly of ‘Physicians for Human Rights Israel’ and a woman who has no problem collaborating with the PSC or MAP. The Chair and one of the Trustees of JNews needs no introduction to CW readers; he is none other than Antony Lerman of Independent Jewish Voices and CiF fame. Other trustees include Ellen Dahrendorf, also of IJV and chair of the UK branch of the New Israel Fund, Maurice Naftalin, also of IJV and JFJFP, Lynne Segal who sits on the IJV steering group, and the person whose brainchild JNews apparently was; Richard Kuper of Jews for Justice for Palestinians. Last year I happened to come across Mr. Kuper in person at a showing of Caryl Churchill’s anti-Semitic play ‘7 Jewish Children’. Needless to say he was publicly advocating the idea of Israel as an apartheid state at the time.
I’m afraid things don’t get any better when it comes to the Patrons of JNews either; they include Francesca Klug of IJV, Morris Farhi, Stan Cohen and Avi Shlaim. Tony Klug of JFJP, Jews for Justice and Human Rights and a member of the IJV steering group and Brian Klug – co-founder of IJV – are also involved. I’m sure readers have already noticed something of a pattern here: JNews appears to be nothing more than a somewhat incestuous rehash of IJV. Many of the names involved with JNews can be found on this public letter to the British Prime Minister urging him to support the Goldstone Report which was the initiative of IJV and JFJFP amongst others.
As regular readers will already have realised, I’m something of a believer in ‘cherchez l’argent’, so I decided to take a look at who is funding JNews and it appears to be ‘The Barry Amiel and Norman Melburn Trust ’. Sounds very respectable, but who are they? Well, this is a group of die-hard Marxists, but with the money to promote their anachronistic agenda.
“The general objectives of the Trust are to advance public education, learning and knowledge in all aspects of the philosophy of Marxism, the history of socialism, and the working- class movement.”
In 2006 their annual lecture was given by none other than ex- and- anti-Israeli communist Moshe Machover – father of Daniel Machover of ‘arrest warrants for visiting Israelis’ fame. In 1998 they hosted Noam Chomsky. Another recipient of the Trust’s money has been the Camden Abu Dis Friendship Association which was involved in a scandal last year and received criticism from the Mayor of London when borderline antisemitic and blatantly anti-Israeli leaflets were handed out at a London school with Jewish pupils.
The Barry Amiel and Norman Melburn Trust is a registered UK charity and its Trustees include Rodney Bickerstaffe, President of ‘War on Want’ – yet another British charity with a nasty anti-Israeli agenda which promoted Ben White’s oeuvre ‘ Israeli Apartheid – A Beginner’s Guide’. Bickerstaffe is also a signatory to this PSC initiated letter demanding that Veolia boycott the new light rail system in Jerusalem. Another Trustee is Rebecca Amiel of JFJFP and a signatory of the above letter in support of the Goldstone Report. Then there’s Tariq Ali; a one-stater who spoke at one of the 2009 demonstrations against Operation Cast Lead in London and who is of the opinion that Oslo was a surrender on the part of the Palestinians, that suicide bombings in Israel need to be contextualized and that the situation in the Middle East is the cause of the 7/7 bombings.
So all in all, I think we can safely assume that Keith Kahn-Harris’ naïve hopes that JNews will hasten peace in the Middle East should have been dashed before the caterers finished clearing up after the launch. The only perspective JNews will be bringing is an anti-Israeli one and despite the snazzy website, the PR and the hyperbole, this is in fact nothing more than another step in the campaign by the 1,300 or so members of IJV and their hangers-on to delegitimize the Israeli state and its people by disguising themselves as a news agency. Of course the comments to Weingarten’s article were full of gushing praise for this ‘noble project’, but I will not bore readers by subjecting them to a reproduction of such sycophantic twaddle. Instead, I would like to use this space to raise an issue which has been bothering me for some time – ever since I first came across groups like IJV and JFJFP.
As an Israeli and someone who through marriage has come into contact with the experiences of Sephardi and Mizrahi Jews who were forced to leave their homes in Arab lands – in the case of my mother-in-law, literally at knife-point – I have to say that I find the approach of people such as Lerman, Kuper and the assorted Klugs to be incredibly parochial. Here we have a group of people who do not want to live in Israel, do not speak its language, are not familiar on a personal level with the day to day demands and dilemmas of life there and are not part of its democratic process. And yet (in my view purely out of self-interest) they appear to think that from on high in their ivory towers thousands of miles away, they have some sort of right to judge the decisions and actions of the people who do live the often difficult and challenging Israeli experience every day. More than that, they form their opinions based on a Jewish experience which has no relevance in the place about which they pontificate and totally ignore the many other Jewish viewpoints which are the product of hands-on experience of life with neighbours who are not quite as amicable as those in Islington or Oxford. The members of IJV and other such organisations may very well wish to distance themselves from Israelis and Zionists in order to avoid some of the opprobrium we receive; that’s more than fine by me and the feeling is definitely mutual, but they have absolutely no moral right to interfere in and endanger the existence of my country.
IJV and similar groups are incredibly quick to jump on the bandwagon of Palestinian Human Rights which is undoubtedly an important and legitimate subject. However, in their rush to do so and in the populist style they adopt, they become complicit in undermining and denying the Human Rights of another group of people – Israelis. To me it is quite obvious that any successful solution to the problems of the Middle East can only be based upon respect for and preservation of the rights of all parties involved, which is why I find groups such as ‘Jews for Justice for Palestinians’ and IJV so offensive. Their blatant one-sidedness is far from being a recipe for peace and reconciliation and this latest project going under the name of JNews shows no potential for being any different.






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March 23, 2010 at 1:13 am
AB
Ugly fawning brownnosed bootlicking Jews, who are trying to manipulate and subvert Israel’s policies by remote control.They live in the UK and Kvetch about Israel from there.
They don’t serve in the IDF,they don’t pay taxes in Israel,and they definitely don’t serve Israel’s interests,they might as well say it loud and clear who DO they represent.The PLO Hamas Hizbullah,the loony left in Israel and the UK.
They are distancing themselves from Israel,yet they say that they represent Israel.
Hamas Hizbullah and the PLO now have these new champions.
March 23, 2010 at 1:34 am
Louise
Terrific article IN.
These renegade idiots can find money for canapes and a swanky office while good Israel education projects go unfunded.
The UK Jewish community is doomed. Anyone with sense and initiative is bailing out.
March 23, 2010 at 1:41 am
JerusalemMite
IsraeliNurse.
Great post.
Does JNews a great debunk.
I wonder if they will still be there a year from now and what other ‘launches’ that bunch of jewish anti Zionist losers are planning.
Have no fear that we will miss something. The Guardian/CiF will ‘expose’ it.
March 23, 2010 at 1:53 am
Louise
Miri Weingarten is the London representative of B’tselem and Physicians for Human Rights — in other words, she is funded by the New Israel Fund and European governments, under the facade of “Israeli civil society”, to demonize Israel via groups like IJV and to campaign for UK adoption of the Goldstone report.
The core villains are the funders — NIF and European governments are the enablers.
March 23, 2010 at 1:56 am
Ivan
http://www.thejc.com/blogpost/liberal-rabbi-calling-end-jewish-state-not-antisemitic
These are the same fools who think that calling for the end of the Jewish State is not antisemitic. Kuper chaired this meeting.
March 23, 2010 at 1:57 am
Abandon hope
Israeli nurse
” Jews who were forced to leave their homes in Arab lands – in the case of my mother-in-law, literally at knife-point – ”
This is the kind of article I had hoped I would see more of on CIFWatch with its mixture of understated views on JNews and its allowing an insight into peoples lives.
I support JNews completely ..of course ..but I know a fair article when I see one.
Louise
” The UK Jewish community is doomed. ”
This is alarmist and ridiculous….and ill sits with a decent fist of an essay.
March 23, 2010 at 2:00 am
PT
ignore that troll. We don’t need his approval.
March 23, 2010 at 2:22 am
Yehuda Erdman
Jstreet is the best thing to come out of the American Jewish community for years. Meretz USA actively supports it and hopefully there will be a branch opening soon in the UK. You lot will just have to suffer but obviously not in silence.
March 23, 2010 at 2:34 am
Germolene
JNews not only leaves out current Israeli news, IN, it also rehashes anything that is written to Israel’s discredit.
I looked in vain for articles about Israeli technology, medicine, agriculture, culture, arts or other contributions to society.
Is JNews meant to be only bad news? They should rename it “The bad news about Israel” so that we know what we’re reading.
March 23, 2010 at 2:38 am
Margie
Yehuda Erdman, if you want to influence Israel, come and live in Israel and you can vote for your party and enjoy the consequences of your choice if they get in.
You’re playing at politics by running a party without a possibility of implementation. In the meantime your party’s policies need a better link to reality and a consequent good overhaul before I vote for Meretz again.
March 23, 2010 at 2:56 am
Ivan
“…..hopefully there will be a branch opening soon in the UK”
Bring it on baby …. you will be crushed
March 23, 2010 at 3:07 am
Louise
Dahrendorf has done nothing in her life apart from marrying Ralf
March 23, 2010 at 3:21 am
JerusalemMite
Abandon hope
I support JNews completely ..of course ..but I know a fair article when I see one.
Berchmans. Your ‘support’ in itself would be enough for me to see JNews as inimical to Jews and the State of Israel itself.
That, even without Tony Lerman being a ‘director’.
March 23, 2010 at 4:07 am
pretzelberg
How are JNews guilty of “undermining” Israel? What is it about them that gets your ire up, I wonder? Perhaps it’s because they’re anti-occupation and want to see the Palestinians treated better?
That said – as I said on the Weingarten thread – they’d be more credible if they didn’t have the likes of Tony Lerman on board.
March 23, 2010 at 4:10 am
pretzelberg
Margie
Yehuda Erdman, if you want to influence Israel, come and live in Israel and you can vote for your party and enjoy the consequences of your choice if they get in.
I wonder: do you say the same thing to e.g. AIPAC members?
Ivan
“…..hopefully there will be a branch opening soon in the UK” Bring it on baby …. you will be crushed
What kind of medieval-style talk is that?
March 23, 2010 at 4:20 am
JerusalemMite
pretzelberg
That said – as I said on the Weingarten thread – they’d be more credible if they didn’t have the likes of Tony Lerman on board.
And Berchmans with praises.
March 23, 2010 at 4:30 am
Abandon hope
JerusalemMite
” more credible if they didn’t have ..Lerman on board. .And Berchmans with praises. ”
I am more than aware that my support has the kiss of “unclean” about it. For example I have stopped recommending Pretzy’s posts for exactly this reason. I look at his 4 10 above and it is along the lines.. but way better .. than what I had planned ..but I cant say this in case folk start hassling him as flying with the crows.
For what its worth I find the gamut of Jewish liberal sites confusing as well and believe the change of consciousness required to solve the ME will come from the US …..not from Israeli or Jewish liberals ..now that Obama has got his tackle back.
It was jammed in the zip for a while.
March 23, 2010 at 4:33 am
Adam Levick
Excellent post! Thanks.
March 23, 2010 at 4:41 am
Margie
No Pretzl. I don’t vote for Aipac, so I’m not involved in it, nor do they have a party in Israel.
I have no idea how Aipac works, only that they have not posted here looking for support.
March 23, 2010 at 4:46 am
Israelinurse
Pretzelberg – it may have escaped your notice but the vast majority of Israelis are in favour of a two-state solution and have for the past 15 years at least been trying to get the PA to come onboard. To regard this conflict in story-book terms of ‘Israelis – bad, Palestinians -good’ as groups such as IJV and JFJFP do is ridiculous and will contribute nothing to finding a solution to the problems.
Consider this: why is JFJFP not called JFJFPAI – ‘Jews for Justice for Palestinians and Israelis’? Believe me, if you had ever seen Richard Kuper in action, you would have no doubt about his intentions; undermining is a very moderate and somewhat understated description of the man’s agenda. And when he touts his wares to an audience of PSC supporters in a place such as Bolton, he is doing nothing to encourage peace in the Middle East and much to contribute to the frankly unpleasant experience of being Israeli and Jewish in places such as Bolton, Bradford, Blackburn or Burnley.
March 23, 2010 at 5:59 am
AKUS
Great article, IN. The stench of hypocrisy from JNews and the rest of the J*** variations is sickening. Of course, they seem to have “missed” this article:
Palestinian whistleblower creates a stir, keeps public debate focused on corruption
and no mention of the daily arrival of kassams from Gaza either (though i blame Israel’s feeble PR and its press for not highlighting this, and its poor representation in the UN for not raising the matter on a daily basis there either).
March 23, 2010 at 6:06 am
AKUS
Its ironical, sitting a few miles from the AIPAC conference, that I have to go the Guardian to see a clip of Netanyahu at AIPAC:
Binyamin Netanyahu: ‘Jerusalem is not a settlement. It’s our capital’
A measure of the Guardian’s obsession with the topic, if nothing else.
March 23, 2010 at 6:32 am
peterthehungarian
pretzelberg
How are JNews guilty of “undermining” Israel? What is it about them that gets your ire up, I wonder? Perhaps it’s because they’re anti-occupation and want to see the Palestinians treated better?
The majority of Israelis are “anti-occupation” and want to see the Palestinians live in better conditions, but not are involved in biased and one-sided libels against Israel.
I wonder: do you say the same thing to e.g. AIPAC members?
AIPAC is not masquerading as an unbiased organisation and they are the voice of mainstream Israel in the US. Jnews represent only some British intellectuals serving their own ego and bank balance with zero connections to the Israeli society. I would bet that most of them don’t even speak Hebrew and none of them speaks Arabic.
March 23, 2010 at 6:33 am
TomWonacott
Excellent article IN
Just a glance at their site was enough to understand their agenda – that, and the fact that they get, not one, but two articles in the Guardian to advertise in just a week. Its the same old story – the employment of Jews to criticize and delegitimize Israel.
Where is the criticism of the Palestinians? Of course, its absent because the Palestinians are a product of Israeli oppression, and as always, at least from the perspective of the neo libs, they have no responsibility in their dysfunctional society.
This is an attempt by the Guardian to mainstream a far left Jewish perspective, to give the impression that J Street and JNews are a part of an overall “growing” movement opposed to Israel’s anti peace policies – and especially opposed to the “far right wing” Netanyahu government. Even though JNews might find agreement with 10%(as a guess) of the Jewish community, the idea is to suggest that this is a mainstream British Jewish perspective.
Expect more articles in the future from JNews on CIF.
March 23, 2010 at 6:39 am
Louise
Well JNews is really on the ball
The story about the Israeli diplomat being expelled from the UK broke two hours ago but you won’t see it on JNews
They even miss stories which suit their agenda!
March 23, 2010 at 6:47 am
Margie
Louise, I read the stories both in the Guardian and the Telegraph and neither of them says that there is any proof that the killing was done by Israelis or that indeed the passports in question were used by Israeli citizens. The only evidence they have is that the original passports were those of Israeli residents who have British passports.
Is the UK expelling an Israeli diplomat because of unconfirmed suspicion?
March 23, 2010 at 6:49 am
sababa
Israelinurse, I can only echo the compliments you got here already.
Erdman: “You lot will just have to suffer but obviously not in silence.”
Yes, sir, there were better times for you lot, weren’t there?
March 23, 2010 at 6:53 am
Abtalyon
A very fair and accurate assessment of JNews; as you say, a re-hash of IJV and kindred splinter organizations in the UK. Like other posters, I think that with time JNews will fade into the background where it will wallow in its own insignificance.
Incidentally, JNews should not to be confused with the US left- of- centre organization JStreet, whose members and supporters would have no truck with JNews and IJV, assuming they have even heard of such bodies.
March 23, 2010 at 7:00 am
Louise
Margie
The UK is expelling an Israeli diplomat bcos there is an election in 6 weeks and the government is behind in the polls …
March 23, 2010 at 7:45 am
Oy Va Goy
“Were the canapés at the JNews launch last week really so delicious that guest Matt Seaton felt the need to commission two CiF articles on the subject in 5 days?”
I’m sure he’d have done the same whatever the quality of the canapes! Great article, Israelinurse. And particularl respect to you for your regular championing of the Sephardi and Mizrahi Jews. What a gem you are.
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March 23, 2010 at 8:54 am
Margie
Louise, and others who know more about UK politics than I do:
Are other parties going to take the government to task for expelling a diplomat on mere suspicion and the use of passports, which point so directly towards a useful suspect that manipulation should be suspected?
March 23, 2010 at 9:08 am
JerusalemMite
Abtalyon
Incidentally, JNews should not to be confused with the US left- of- centre organization JStreet, whose members and supporters would have no truck with JNews and IJV, assuming they have even heard of such bodies.
You surprise me.
They seem very much ‘Birds of a feather’.
March 23, 2010 at 9:45 am
pretzelberg
@ Israelinurse / peterthehungarian
Yes, I am well aware that the majority of Israelis are in favour of a two-state solution. It’s something I sometimes have to remind CiF posters of who talk sh*te like “Israel/Israelis don’t want peace.”
Sadly it all falls on deaf ears, of course. That said: the same applies to certain pro-Israel posters who claim that “the Palestinians” want to destroy Israel etc. – even though a majority of them likewise want a two-state solution.
March 23, 2010 at 10:04 am
Germolene
Pretzelberg says: That said: the same applies to certain pro-Israel posters who claim that “the Palestinians” want to destroy Israel etc. – even though a majority of them likewise want a two-state solution.
————–
I’ve seen no proof of this.
March 23, 2010 at 11:03 am
Sergio Bramsole
I don’t know Matt Seaton from Adam. It seems though when he is around CiF modding gets somewhat better. Maybe he believes in fair play after all.
Like the rest in his outfit, he thinks that one day Jews will turn into ” chess- eating surrender monkeys” or something along these lines That’s a foolish presumption on their part. Israelis won’t stop fighting for their place under the sun.
March 23, 2010 at 11:35 am
JerusalemMite
Not so bad.
Diplomat unnamed but probably the Mossad rep who would have had to be moved anyway.
March 23, 2010 at 11:35 am
Bataween
Many thanks for an excellent article, Israelinurse. The story of your mother-in-law being forced out at gunpoint is typical of the experience of many Jews from Arab countries.
Those JNews people who pontificate from the comfort of their West Hampstead sofas about the desirability of the one-state solution have a blindspot for Mizrahi rights. They ought to pay a bit more attention to what the 50 percent of Israeli Jews who are Sephardim/Mizrahim have to say. Even before the creation of Israel, life ‘under Muslim protection’ for Jews was precarious, insecure, full of humiliation and intermittent violence. It is only when they arrived in Israel and the West that Jews from the Middle East and North Africa could enjoy freedom and human and civil rights without having to look over their shoulder all the time.
March 23, 2010 at 11:39 am
Bataween
Sorry, I meant your mother-in-law forced out at knifepoint.
March 23, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Toko LeMoko
pletsl
I wonder: do you say the same thing to e.g. AIPAC members?
Once more the pletsl shows its ignorance. AIPIAC, as a matter of policy, atempts to avoid prtisan approaches to either US or Israeli governments. Respect for US and Israeli democracy demands no less.
J-Street has no such respect.
March 23, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Toko LeMoko
a majority of [the Palestinians] likewise want a two-state solution
Again we see the pletsl’s penchant for unsupported claims.
March 23, 2010 at 1:30 pm
pretzelberg
Toko LeMoko
Again we see the pletsl’s penchant for unsupported claims.
Do I need to bother responding to someone who has laughably insisted I provide evidence that CiF was NOT created to demonize Israel and does NOT 100% comprise I/P material?
@ Germolene
Like it or not: surveys show that a majority of Palestinians want a two-state solution.
You do know what Google is, don’t you?
@ Margie
You said:
Yehuda Erdman, if you want to influence Israel, come and live in Israel
Surely AIPAC members based outside Israel seek to influence what goes on that country. So why not send them the same message?
March 23, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Louise
@Margie 8.54am
No. The other parties agree with Miliband.
The points to make are that the end justifies the means, Miliband did not say otherwise; and that Israel has shown a lot more forbearance than the UK, eg not reacting to the UK financing ICAHD or ‘Breaking the Silence’. Which points towards the UK action being motivated by the election.
Israel would have been justified in expelling UK diplomats for this.
March 23, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Duvid Crockett
Nothing new indeed. The Klugs and Lerman have form sheets as long as Duvidl’s arm, as Cif Watchers know too well. Here are two of Duvidl’s songs about them from the archives:
The Klug Song (To the tune of “Busy Bee”. hat tip: Arthur Askey)
What a notorious thing to be,
A busy busy bee at IJV,
The views of Tony and Brian Klug,
Just make all true free thinkers shrug.
Chorus: Buzz buzz buzz buzz, busy Klugs, busy Klugs,
Buzz if you like but you’re only bugs,
Buzz buzz buzz buzz, buzy Klugs, busy Klugs
Buzz if you like but you’re swattable bugs.
DS Al Coda
The Cockroach Song
(to the tune of “La Cucaracha” Hat tip: Mexican tradition)
Farstinker Lerman; he’s such a cockroach.
He’s a Cif house-Jew.
Not strictly kosher, he gives us schpilkes.
In his juice he should slowly stew.
He is broiges, so he gets nasty,
He’s been fired from a cushy job
With sheyne maedlach; now chews his kneidlach.
He should firmly shut his gob.
(Maracca and castanette percussion interlude with Mariachi accompaniment)
Farstinker Tony, the shygetz crony
Thinks he’d prefer to be a yock.
In his boyach, that growing tapeworm
Should give choleria auf der schmock. (cha-cha-cha).
DS Al Coda
March 23, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Toko LeMoko
Pletsl
Do I need to bother responding to someone
Translation: “I, Pletsl, have no response and no support for my claim. I talk out of my hat.”
March 23, 2010 at 3:47 pm
germolene
Pletsel: You made a statement about the Palestinians. If you have proof, offer it. If you don’t, I quite understand: you’re just talking for the sake of saying something cute.
March 23, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Ian Flemming
‘‘The Barry Amiel and Norman Melburn Trust ’.
I wonder where these capitalists get their money from.
March 23, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Ian Flemming
Something I have also wondered about Pluto Press.
March 23, 2010 at 6:44 pm
sababa
Abtalyon, methinks you’re a bit to upbeat about JStreet; as far as I can see, they also have some types that would at least be devoted JNews readers… You’ll only have to take Cif’s Silverstein, who’s of course a fan of JStreet and even organized some blogger’s gathering at their last major meeting.
pretzelberger, don’t know how you’re so sure that Palestinians want a two-state solution. How many say that they want depends perhaps on how the question is asked; but from what I’ve been reading, once you dig a bit deeper, you’ll see that if the support inches above 50 percent, it will be a two state solution, with NO Jewish rights on the Temple Mount, and with a “right of return” for millions and millions of Palestinians to Israel… Plus, many think that they could also claim tons of money as compensation if they are good enough not to “return” to places they’ve never been to. So how much they would like any real two-state solution is anyone’s guess — unless you have some inside-info???
March 23, 2010 at 9:43 pm
peterthehungarian
pretzelberg
Surely AIPAC members based outside Israel seek to influence what goes on that country. So why not send them the same message?
I repeat pretzelberg. AIPAC is a lobby group lobbying for the elected Israeli government be it right or left, they are the voice of democratic Israel in the US.
Erdman and his kind represent only himself and incites against mainstream Israel.
Anyway I disagree with Margie. I prefer Erdmann staying in the UK…
Why spoil the beautiful Mediterranean spring?