Millfield posted a poignant (and now deleted) comment in a comment thread on Rahm Emanuel that devolved into Stormfrontesque type commentary:
Here are a selection of some of the comments that prompted Millfield to ask this all important question.
Hornstein
14 Mar 2010, 1:03PM
Rahm Emanuel follows a long line of Jewish Zionists who have steered US government policy to benefit Israel.
[recreated from bedebyes 14 Mar 2010, 1.09PM post]
taxhaven
14 Mar 2010, 1:12PM
co2fortrees, there is another possibility.
The entire “team”, including the Leader, are evil. They dutifully serve the financial oligarchy, the banking elite, the Zionist lobby and the military-industrial complex. They will stop at nothing to protect the present fractional reserve banking system, never give up pushing cheap credit, continue endless “Wars on —-XXX” and print money.
He never did want change at all, if change were to mean anything significant.
You know, as we all grow older (I’m 49), we learn better and better to detect the “have I got a deal for you!” individual who actually only wants something from us.
Just another salesman…
SilesiusEye
14 Mar 2010, 1:56PM
There are far too many hard right Zionists who have power in America — that is the problem. Obama is a puppet of right wing neo cons,warmongers and zionists with their own agenda to re-structure the world for their own benefit, particularly, the Middle East. Just don’t mention Iran, and the ‘ threat’ they pose to ‘us.’
Cliched rant you say ? Sorry, it’s not my fault if the truth is a cliche.
Why do we have to have these people deciding our lives for us? It’s not only Obama who is under their thumb, look at UK too with Miliband, Mandelson, and Brown and all the rest.
Puppets and stooges.
Why do the wicked ones rule? Why is human society like that, and always has been, whether under Communist elites, or Capitalist hierarchies?
Rotten bouregois decadence, from top to bottom.
SilesiusEye
14 Mar 2010, 2:52PM
Pretzel wrote — “I wonder if this poster knows just how clearly their anti-Semitism shines through … “
Anti Semitism means saying something Israel doesn’t like.
Wulfstan
14 Mar 2010, 3:48PM
GaryG
It seems that anytime anyone criticizes Israel, he is labeled as an anti semite and anyone who says a few words in support of the Palestinians is in favor of terrorism.
Papalagi
14 Mar 2010, 5:15PM
I’ve seen now the post by Taxhaven ( 14 Mar 2010, 2:46PM ) which answers in part what I had asked her.
Here is a fundamental article about Rahm by Alexander Cockburn
http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn11072008.html
mscir
15 Mar 2010, 12:09AM
Remove the Zionist from the WH. Israel is acting horribly and should be treated accordingly, not given billions every year. Get Rid of Rahm.
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March 15, 2010 at 12:40 am
Toko LeMoko
The truth is simple: The Guardian hates Rahm because he is a non-subservient Jew who dared (gasp) to volunteer in Israel. That’s sufficient to seal his fate; in the GWV Rahm is thus an identifying Jew and so to be crushed mercilessly.
March 15, 2010 at 1:08 am
Margie
All the negative descriptions left you in no doubt. Even his lack of height and the fact that he was a ballet dancer seemed to add to the negative mix.
What is becoming the Guardian’s new field of expertise is the subliminal influence of the pictures illustrating their articles, setting you up with an attitude before you begin reading, and this one was more eloquent than the words used!
March 15, 2010 at 2:20 am
Abandon hope
MILLFIELD had a different, dreadful post deleted on that thread as well. I am struggling to remember but I had a go at it. It was deleted along with mine…but I never pressed “abuse.” No its gone … he will maybe remember
His above post is mawkish and obvious but it should never have been deleted.The problem is that MILLFIELD can post shocking and abusive posts and he was not given the benefit of the doubt.
March 15, 2010 at 2:23 am
germolene
You’ve got the right name abandon. You struggle to remember, you don’t see in what way the Guardian lies. You think that an honest post is mawish. You have very little judgement, and the bit you have is biased
March 15, 2010 at 2:27 am
James Mac
Actually the Guardian is digging itself deeper and deeper into the shit,when it allows posters like Berchmans,KrustyTheKlown.and the likes, to take over Cif.
It has lost all of it’s serious posters,and now it is left with posters who can’t string a coherent sentence to gather.
March 15, 2010 at 2:43 am
germolene
You’re right James Mac. Furthermore, one hesitates before expressing anything at all on cif, in the knowledge that an honest statement that doesn’t follow the Guardian’s world view will be deleted and can easily lead to banning. That is no fertile soil for interesting conversation.
March 15, 2010 at 2:56 am
Abandon hope
germolene
. “You struggle to remember,”
Sorry.. it was a Sunday and freezing here.I never got out..( I know…I never get out anyway) I must have posted 30 comments to various papers. Its not easy being a fanatic.
I could save everything but I am an anoraknaphobic!
James Mac
” it is left with posters who can’t string a coherent sentence to gather.”
March 15, 2010 at 3:31 am
Duvid Crockett
“…in the GWV Rahm is thus an identifying Jew and so to be crushed mercilessly.” says Toko Le Moko. The GWV is, of course, The Guardian World View. Here is Duvidl’s anthem:
Somewhere in The Guardian World View
(to the tune of “Somewhere Over The Rainbow.”)
( Hat tip:H. Arlen and EY Harburg [+ J. Garland])
Somewhere in the Guardian World View
That coven may try
To spew bile and doo-doo at each Jew;
In Reason’s face they fly.
Somewhere in the Guardian World View
Hamas thrives.
You’ll find in their ghastly witches’ brew,
At the cost of Israeli lives.
Somewhere in the Guardian World View
Freedom fails
Even to its own self to be true,
With the lying that that entails.
Bridge: They scrawl each lie and daily try
House-Jews to buy, and truth deny;
Stalinist.
Falsehoods and fallacies they state,
And plain Jew-hatred promulgate;
They’re all pissed.
Somewhere in the Guardian World View
They’ll be caught,
By a writer who for seventy-five pounds
For once cannot be bought.
Somewhere in the Guardian World View
He’ll complete
A world view not berating each Jew;
Then him they’ll quick-delete.
DS Al Coda
March 15, 2010 at 5:21 am
Yohoho
Dopey, “mawkish????” But then you would call sentimental any justified criticism of the below the line antisemitic rubbish on CiF.
It’s the truth as millfield and others see it! CiF is the bastion of leftist antisemitism (which is why you – who are so left that you almost fall over (and that’s by your own admission) – post there unhindered.
Would you have said the same of a post by a Moslem – say by Bungler, who is very fond of referring insultingly and erroneously to Muslims as the new Jews? Bungler and his ilk are sickeningly mawkish but not a peep out of you about them. Rather you be slobber all over them and what they say and calling people like Bungler, the supporter of stoning because his prophet supported it – “gentle.”
(Actually, you do us a favour here. Every time you put fingers to keyboard and send us this rubbish, you give us all an opportunity to argue with you and put our points of view and give the FACTS – something which CiF would never agree to).
I loathe your hypocrisy and what you wobble* for Berchmans, but I defend your right to wobble away and give us these golden opportunities.
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*most people stand up for their political opinions and do so in print from a much more informed position than Dopey. and therefore they come across as committed and consistent at least. Not so Dopey Berchmans, which is why “wobble” seems an excellent word for his apology for a “stance.”
March 15, 2010 at 6:41 am
HairShirt
Dopey to Germolene – excuses again. Think before you post and if you can’t remember don’t post, instead of showing yourself up by making facile excuses along the lines of “I never got out…”
It’s great that you don’t save everything. In that way you provide excellent entertainment when you step in the poo again and again and again.
Israel supporters, on the other hand, have learned to save everything they write because of the way in which people like you try to twist and lie about what they have written.
Germolene, you are right that Berchmans struggles to remember. He positively jumped in the poo on another thread when he tried to argue that Scotland had “about two” antisemitic occurrences over the past thousand years. The “about two” aspect, even allowing for the qualifier, showed that he couldn’t be bothered to check that out for himself. You’d think he’d know better, but he never seems to see the hole in the road which he’s made for himself and falls into it every time.
He must have a very pronounced masochistic streak.
March 15, 2010 at 8:20 am
Abandon hope
Hairshirt
“He argue(d) that Scotland had “about two” antisemitic occurrences over the past thousand years. The “about two” aspect, even allowing for the qualifier, showed that he couldn’t be bothered to check that out for himself. ”
I didnt think anyone had noticed this. Well done. There is only one real one of note and that occurred in the summer of 06 during the war against Lebanon. A Jewish Glasgow school boy was hit. Unfortunate and minor but for a country that otherwise had never seen a single anti Semitic incident it was a worry.
If you think I overplay the lack of anti Semitism in Scotland you are not alone.It sends Pretzelberg potty. People do not want to hear it. Does not tally with the narrative.
PS did you like anoraknaphobic ?
March 15, 2010 at 8:36 am
modernityblog
There are certainly more than two instances of antisemitism in Scotland in the last couple of years.
But you would never expect Abandon hope/Berchmans as a Far Right headcase to acknowledge that.
Still it would be wrong to try and attack Scotland and its people, simply because Abandon hope/Berchmans has some tenuous connection to it.
I don’t think that Abandon hope/Berchmans is representative of Scots, any more than Nick Griffin is of the Welsh.
Let’s be very clear, if there was any instance of antisemitism then Abandon hope/Berchmans would invariably downplay it or minimise its impact.
That’s his nature.
March 15, 2010 at 9:29 am
pretzelberg
Papalagi in classic form there, apparently having insider information about Emanuel’s true and no doubt insidious motives.
germolene
one hesitates before expressing anything at all on cif, in the knowledge that an honest statement that doesn’t follow the Guardian’s world view will be deleted and can easily lead to banning.
Don’t be silly. I often post honest statements critical of people like Richard Silverstein – and they are NOT deleted.
March 15, 2010 at 9:48 am
JerusalemMite
pretzelberg
Don’t be silly. I often post honest statements critical of people like Richard Silverstein – and they are NOT deleted.
Perhaps you haven’t noticed Pretz. Kapo Dickey is not Georgina’s favorite any more and can be referred to negatively without fear of deletion.
March 15, 2010 at 12:13 pm
HairShirt
Dopey – what do you mean by “the real one of note?”
All of them are noteworthy and evidence that Jew-hatred is growing in your country
But what would you know?
Or care?
March 15, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Snigger
Are you mad, Berchmans ?
I am going to quote from Yohoho’s post
“…You know Berchmans I really don’t think I could count on such a one as you to keep me safe from antisemitic attack, given your conflicted nature.
“But if you are going to come here and make claims that Scotland is a haven for Jews at least get your facts right:
“From January 09 to June 09 there were fourteen incidents of antisemitic activity in Scotland/
“Kill all Jews”, “SNP/Hamas” and “No Jews in Scotland” was daubed on a wall and gravestones in a Jewish cemetery in Glasgow.
“In October 2002 the Edinburgh Hebrew Congregation Synagogue was petrol bombed and vandalised again on 19th March 2009
“A number of youths were arrested in November, 1996 after they threw beer bottles at the “Netherlee and Clarkston Hebrew Congregation” synagogue in Glasgow. One of the accused was sentenced to pay a £400 pound sterling fine at the Sheriff Court in Glasgow for throwing beer bottles at the synagogue.
“And this is from Tom Gross’ column at http://www.tomgrossmedia.com/mideastdispatches/archives/000769.html
“Note, it’s about Edinburgh:
““JOKES” ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST AND RICHARD PERLE
“A writer for “The Ali G Show” has reported in The Times of London that “the anti-Jewish sentiment at Edinburgh [this year] is shocking.”
“The world’s largest arts festival, in Edinburgh, Scotland, is held every August.
“Jamie Glassman writes: “There have always been anti-Semitic jokes. But you know times are changing when you go along to a stand-up show at the Pleasance Courtyard at the Edinburgh Fringe and you hear audience members shouting ‘Throw them in the oven’ when the comic suggests kids should stop playing Cowboys and Indians and replace it with Nazis and Jews.
“Stand-up comedy is as good a prism as any through which to look at the changing attitudes in our society. If my past few days are anything to go by then it is becoming increasingly acceptable to hate the Jews. Again.
“I’ve seen two comics so far who have been happy to amuse their crowds with Holocaust gags. I’m not sure which to be the more concerned about. One was a left-leaning angry Australian conspiracy theorist, Steve Hughes, [who joked] ‘I want to bash Condoleezza Rice’s brain to bits and kill that f****** Jew Richard Perle.’
(See also http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article609132.ece)
“… What is going on in Edinburgh now is no satire… It is a cultural trend that I’ve found increasingly evident but never before has the Jew-hating element been so overt….”
Now tell me, Berchmans, why aren’t these “noteworthy?”
How dare you come here, you ignoramus, and minimise antisemitic threats in Scotland? Save that for your willing audience on CiF, where you can yowl with the other feral dogs that the Jews deserve it and your posts will not be deleted.
March 15, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Abandon hope
Snigger
You have gone to some length to post this unbelievable attack on the Scottish people. “SNP/Hamas” ?? Who are you trying to kid ? I dont believe an effin word.The Scots I know would go for anyone shouting anything about any effin Jew.This is bullshit.
March 15, 2010 at 2:03 pm
smtx01
check out the ‘France faces up to it’s Holocaust Role’ on cif
March 15, 2010 at 2:55 pm
peter1
I suppose that saying there is limited or no anti-semitism in Scotland is supposed to be a meaningful statement, but what does it really mean?
A population of about 5 million has a whopping 6,400 Jews in total.
Is there a reason to interpolate anything from this?
Our resident troll isn’t an anti-semite because he’s a Scot, and he isn’t not an anti-semite because he’s a Scot.
He’s what he is because he’s too thick to become anything else.
March 15, 2010 at 4:33 pm
smtx01
At abandon hope why dont you just call yourself snigger
March 15, 2010 at 4:54 pm
AB
Anti Semitism and Anti Zionism in Scotland is just as bad as it is in the UK , in fact even worse.
There is the Scottish Palestine Solidarity Campaign,that would give the Der Sturmer a run for it’s money.
And then there is George Galloway,Scotland’s proud son.
And in the place of Honor there is Berchmans.
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March 15, 2010 at 5:19 pm
smtx01
In defence of the good people of Scotland, I Know many people from Scotland who would give Berchmans a very good run for his ‘hyperbole’ and for his consistent failure to address the issue.
March 15, 2010 at 6:23 pm
AB
I’m sure there are some good people in Scotland.
They could even rustle up a Minyan
But Berchmans isn’t one of them.
March 15, 2010 at 6:56 pm
smtx01
i wasnt defending berchmans, he is a wind up merchant, pure and simple
March 15, 2010 at 9:14 pm
peter1
Sure there are good people in Scotland,just like there are good people in Gaza, just like are there are good people writing at the guardian……and then there are people like our resident troll, besotted, bewildered, beguiled and so full of it that his eyes have turned brown.
March 16, 2010 at 2:10 pm
pretzelberg
@ JerusalemMite
Kapo Dickey is not Georgina’s favorite any more and can be referred to negatively without fear of deletion.
You and those who recommended your comment are kidding yourselves. I used to criticize Silverstein on his own CiF articles – and look at my opening (i.e. critical) comment on yeterday’s Weingarten thread. It’s still standing …
As I said: germolene was talking nonsense there.