This is a guest post by Jonathan Hoffman
Seth Freedman’s article on Israel’s imminent accession to the OECD is a mixture of ignorance and prejudice – perfect for a “Comment Is Free” article on that country, in other words. For a former investment banker, his ignorance of economics, statistics and the workings of the OECD is shameful. For a Jew who took advantage of the Law of Return and still lives in Israel even though he makes a living from badmouthing it in the Guardian, his prejudice is despicable.
He reveals his ignorance for all to see by assuming that the OECD is a political organisation, like the European Union, and that therefore there is some kind of political ‘test’ which aspiring members need to pass (as for example Turkey does in relation to EU membership). That is incorrect. The OECD is an economic cooperation organisation, best thought of as an economics version of “Weightwatchers”. Thus Freedman’s phraseology (eg “welcoming Israel in from the cold” and “willingness to overlook”) is entirely inappropriate. Freedman’s final sentence (“it can only be hoped that the OECD’s opposition to Israel’s misdeeds comes late rather than never”) is simply crass.
Freedman digs himself in further by suggesting that “Israel’s credit rating will be upgraded as a result” of OECD entry. There is absolutely no link between OECD entry and movements in a sovereign’s credit rating. While it is true that OECD members have higher average ratings than non-OECD members, the point is that a country would not be granted accession unless its economy was considered strong. And as has been seen with Greece recently, OECD membership is no guarantee at all that a country’s credit rating will not be downgraded.
Now to the prejudice. Freedman suggests that a statistical issue has the potential “to derail” accession. The issue in question is said to be the coverage of the West Bank statistics that Israel submits to the OECD. But the truth is that the OECD decided to commence the accession process over two years ago and that since then Israel has fully followed and implemented the guidance of the OECD, including far reaching regulatory amendments. It is very common for countries to accede to the OECD and then fine tune their economic procedures afterwards, including statistical coverage.
Even the Abu Dhabi newspaper article to which Freedman links – written by Jonathan Cook, no friend of Israel – concedes this.
Indeed it may not be possible to divide the West Bank’s statistics to separate the value-added accruing to settlers and that accruing to Palestinians (as Freedman suggests that some members of the OECD are requesting). If an enterprise employs both settlers and Palestinians – as is common – then it is impossible to subdivide that enterprise’s income.
PS Israel is one of five countries, along with Chile, Estonia, the Russian Federation and Slovenia, that were invited in May 2007 to open negotiations for membership of the OECD.





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March 9, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Serendipity
Let’s face it, even a twerp like Freedman writes with his audience in mind.
And it’s plain, from this article, what he thinks of them.
And they are excellently matched.
March 9, 2010 at 12:56 pm
judean people's front
Speaking of ignorance and prejudice, weren’t you the shouty one at the mainly polite LSE debate with Ami Ayalon and Karma Nabulsi?
March 9, 2010 at 1:11 pm
THH
Priceless
March 9, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Jonathan Hoffman
If you are referring to my pointing out to Colonel Desmond Travers (of the Goldstone Commission) that he failed to answer my question about his antisemitic comment about “Jews controlling UK foreign policy”, the answer is ‘Yes’
And why did your mouth stay shut?
Now maybe you could get back on topic?
March 9, 2010 at 1:21 pm
JerusalemMite
Oh. (Sob). The ‘Sethele’ thread has closed and with one or two deletions.
Apart from Sethele himself, one of his groupies in the Israel Hate Fest has been deleted too.
I have a copy. Presumably even Georgina sees the damage that this commenter is doing to CiF’s already tarnished reputation for ‘fair and balanced’ laced with rank anti Semitism.
Berchmans – 9 Mar 2010, 5:45PM – sydk – ## that the number of articles on CiF criticising Israel is at a level that can only be described as obssessive. ## – But its interesting. The town in Scotland where the movie Local Hero was made had a land slide and they tried to shore it up.In Israel they build 200 settlements when there is a land slide. – Its different. Its wacky. – B
Indeed ‘wacky’ is an apt description.
Why this site tolerates that Jew hating clown is beyond me.
March 9, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Margie
Congratulations, Jonathan Hoffman for taking on the burden of good citizenship and demanding that people who report to the public and receive public funds, keep to the straight and narrow, and point out their faults when they don’t.
You are part of the checks and balances, while the bigots’ brigade responding so effusively to Freedman support their own section of the media blindly.
March 9, 2010 at 1:51 pm
Corkie Simkiwicz
Seth Freedman is paid by the Guardian to lambast Israel at every opportunity. BY now, Seth is just phoning it home. He uses the same phrases and expressions over and over again. It is obvious that he just races through his column, submits it to his handlers at the Guardian and then spends the rest of his days wolfing down falafels from Falafel King and slurping down some coca cola. I don’t worry much about Mr. Freedman. He is intellectually lazy and that makes it easy to dismantle his arguments.
March 9, 2010 at 1:53 pm
peterthehungarian
THH
The deleted comment of this economic/politic/Judaism/Israel/hedge-fund/crack expert:
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sethfreedman
9 Mar 2010, 5:52PM
geoffreyalderman – “Then I had a jolly good laugh”
surprised you have time to laugh what with all the dinei rodef that need issuing
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A perfect demonstration of the intellectual level of a CIF Jewish tuches-licker. (I only want to show that Lerman is correct, the Zionists couldn’t kill the best traditions of the Yiddish language.)
March 9, 2010 at 2:16 pm
TomWonacott
Thanks Jonathan
Nice to have two sides to the story. Its just tiring to see the CIF faithful strain to find ways to undercut Israel.
March 9, 2010 at 3:18 pm
sababa
An excellent piece Jonathan that shows once more what Seth is all about: a know-nothing who can process any news item only through his Pavlovian bash-Israel reflex. His knowledge of economics won’t go much beyond figuring that it pays for his Falafel.
March 9, 2010 at 3:44 pm
ahasonist
“a statistical issue’? thats a little bit disingenuous, isn’t it?
The OECD submission basically states that Israel has seven million citizens when clearly it has 11 million, the other four million being Palestinians living under occupation. If they were included, Israel would be automatically barred from accession because of the enormous disparities in wealth. There’s a quote from Meron Benvinisti who says there is something like a 20:1 ratio in GDP per capita between an israeli and a Palestinian living in Gaza. The fact that Israel tried to include Israelis living in settlements in the submission which forces the OECD to tacitly give permission to something that is blatantly illegal. obviously it wouldn’t be as bad if they just hadn’t included the settlers. Less problems that way.
Also, thats not the only accession issue. The OECD has quite stringent corruption rules that apparently have US and european defence firms all up in arms (excuse the pun) at some apparently slightly fishy deals (admittedly I know very little about this, but lets face it Israel is ranked at 32nd in transparency internationals corruption index) and because of the whole Teva intellectual property issue they violate other rules the OECD has.
Also, lets not forget the OECD report that came out in January stating that Israel, settlements and occupied territories not included, would still have the widest social gaps of any member state were they to join.
March 9, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Gerald Kreeve
Well, corruption and the PA go together like a horse and carriage don’t they? In fact the Minister for Corruption was caught on camera enjoying the fruits of office in less than his underwear.
March 9, 2010 at 4:02 pm
ahasonist
Absolutely. The PA is incredibly corrupt. But then, Palestine isn’t actually a state. And besides, I was talking about Israel.
March 9, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Judean People's Front
Actually, jonty, I was referring to you jeering other members of the public at the end of the debate.
March 9, 2010 at 4:18 pm
peterthehungarian
No doubt Ahasonist that in Israel we have many corrupt politicians/public servants (mostly in prison) but we are far behind the UK where an MP can force down some tons of horseshit into the taxpayers’ tummy, an other can buy some very expensive rugs, the third acquires an 8000 pound TV all paid by their constituency and after getting caught they can remain free.
March 9, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Gerald Kreeve
Besides he was talking about the Jeeeeeeeeeeews.
March 9, 2010 at 4:54 pm
pretzelberg
Yes, it was a poor article.
But then this from Jonathan Hoffman:
For a Jew who took advantage of the Law of Return and still lives in Israel even though he makes a living from badmouthing it in the Guardian, his prejudice is despicable.
Well, I find that comment in itself rather despicable.
(and the fact that SF certainly does not “make a living” out of CiF articles is the least of it!)
Why give Hoffman a platform, Hawkeye? It really doesn’t reflect well on your website.
March 9, 2010 at 4:57 pm
pretzelberg
Gerald Kreeve
Besides he was talking about the Jeeeeeeeeeeews
What are you wittering on about there?
Bizarre.
March 9, 2010 at 4:57 pm
armaros
“Why give Hoffman a platform, Hawkeye? It really doesn’t reflect well on your website.”
He entered a post just like you have.
Is this your platform now?
Welcome to the platform Pretz, mind the stairs but the view is splendid from up here.
March 9, 2010 at 6:01 pm
pretzelberg
armaros
He entered a post just like you have.
This entire thread follows a Hoffman article, in case you hadn’t noticed.
Not sure what the view from atop a Hoffman article looks like – but I assume it’s pretty ugly.
March 9, 2010 at 6:27 pm
thisisnotariot
peterthehungarian,
Don’t get me wrong, I’m definitely not defending my poor excuse for a government, but it’s not my Government’s behaviour that is the focus of the article. i’ll write one that is if you want, but my ‘loony lefty’ views might be a little out of place around here…
There are standards that have been put in place that must be met before membership to this organisation. Israel doesn’t meet those standards from what I can tell, yet membership still seems imminent. The pertinent issue for me is why that is the case.
Gerald,
Grow up.
March 9, 2010 at 6:32 pm
ahasonist
Apologies, the above was me and not thisisnotariot. The perils of shared computers…
March 9, 2010 at 6:58 pm
peter1
Our mission
OECD brings together the governments of countries committed to democracy and the market economy from around the world to:
Support sustainable economic growth
Boost employment
Raise living standards
Maintain financial stability
Assist other countries’ economic development
Contribute to growth in world trade
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If Sethele really wants to question the OECD on a moral/ethical basis from that soapbox of his that he keeps falling into.
Turkey?
Russia?
China?
Indonesia?
South Africa?
These are countries committed to democracy?
I suppose when the NeoLibs notice and holler for BDS campaigns…. nahhhh.
Israel is being invited because she has much to offer and it so happens that her economic indicators are stronger than many of the existing member countries, she is being invited on merit and this dismays sethele.
Of course there are the incredible comments below the line that just scream out with the regular guardian supported anti-semitic bile- questioning the rationale of Israel in a “European” organization.
hmm of the 30 countries in the OECD- Australia, Canada, Japan, Korea, Mexico, New Zealand, Turkey and the USA somehow aren’t questioned about not being European…..geez one has to wonder.
March 9, 2010 at 7:11 pm
modernityblog
pretzelberg,
Jonathan Hoffman is a consistent and active opponent of antisemitism, which you’d know, if you actually knew anything, which, of course you don’t.
March 9, 2010 at 7:39 pm
AKUS
Freedman’s article is an excellent example of the woefully small topsy-turvy world the Guardian inhabits.
Indeed actions speak far louder than words when it comes to Israel’s international status, and the OECD apparently does not regard Israel’s behavior as questionable. Perhaps they don;y read the Guardian.
Too bad for Freedman, the Guardian, and the Israel bashers.
Its time they just got used to the idea – “certain states” admire Israel’s economic and military steadfastness, which it neighbors cannot match.
Moreover, when Israel was int he Gaza strip, the standard of living, the facilities including hospitals, schools, universities etc.improved and increased immeasurably. Now the same is happening on the WB, while Gaza slips ever deeper into the abyss of a cruel theocracy.
Perhaps those OECD members, some of whom may have a rather better grasp of economics, finance , and reality than Freedman and the Guardian and its faithful, tend to take things like that into account.
Freedman seems to be unaware of what the acronym OECD stands for, and its motto:
OECD: Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development
Sounds rather like the sort of thing israel has been doing for 6 decades in Africa, Asia, and those of its neighbors who wish to tap into its expertise and economy
Motto: For a stronger, cleaner, fairer world economy
Israel is the only ME country that comes anywhere near meeting that criterion.
March 9, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Jonathan Hoffman
http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/41/30/44383721.pdf
Here are the principal points of the most recent OECD Survey of Israel.
Now I wonder why Freedman did not link to this document ….
March 9, 2010 at 10:47 pm
foreverisraeli
We have the Falash Mura literally dying to get into Israel,and all sorts of obstacles and delays are being put in their way to migrate to Israel.
Yet we have this A Hole Seth Freedman who just walked into Israel,without even a thank you Sir.Then he goes on to defacate and urinate on the same state that allowed him in.In the first place.
I wouldn’t exchange one Falash Mura for a thousand this A H that is called Seth Freedman.
Can we have a petition to send him back to where he came (no I don’t mean that far back) .I would gladly pay his one way ticket,never to return.
I have a feeling that this article was written by someone else for him.
March 9, 2010 at 11:15 pm
peterthehungarian
ahasonist
Don’t get me wrong, I’m definitely not defending my poor excuse for a government, but it’s not my Government’s behaviour that is the focus of the article.
I didn’t speak about your government only but the general moral level of British politics.
Your logic of anti-Semitism is very old and very well known:
-”The Jews are ugly with their big nose”-
-”But the North-American Indians have big nose too”-
-”You are muddying the waters, we are speaking now about the Jews.”-
BTW If you agree with my evaluation of the UK politics would you explain why are they in the OECD? Not to speak about the dismal stae of British economy what in according to almost every indicator is far behind Israel?
March 9, 2010 at 11:30 pm
Toko LeMoko
Peter1
of the 30 countries in the OECD- Japan … Turkey and the USA somehow aren’t questioned
Indeed. Japan has yet to take responsibility for its WW2 acts of genocide and human medical experimentation, while Turkey has yet to take responsibility for its genocide against Armenians and Pontic Greeks.
In fact, Turkey — oft-cited as a “democratic”, “secular”, and “moderate” Muslim country — has reverted to the Muslim tradition of subjugating minorities:
http://jewishrefugees.blogspot.com/2010/03/conditions-deteriorate-for-minorities.html
March 9, 2010 at 11:58 pm
Abandon hope
JerusalemMite
” even Georgina sees the damage that this commenter is doing to CiF’s already tarnished reputation for ‘fair and balanced’ laced with rank anti Semitism.”
I just thought it was funny that the excuse for building the settlements was that the land was slipping . Of course I made a mistake.I said 200 settlements whereas Biden was told that it was 1600. Thats inflation for you. Partner for peace?
Freedman is a moderate. He argued against sanctions being presently applied. A cool head in troubled times…I know he hasnt always been but there you go.
March 10, 2010 at 12:02 am
Gerald Kreeve
Pretzelberg, not so bizarre that PeterTheHungarian didn’t understand me.
March 10, 2010 at 12:56 am
foreverisraeli
Go on to Atlas Shrugs, Tues march 02 2010 ,By Pamela Geller,
She has Ben White in a Nazi Uniform,I always thought that Ben White would look very good in a Nazi uniform.
March 10, 2010 at 2:46 am
THH
Are we counting apartments now ? or is every room in the apartment is also a settlement ? bathroom and kitchen included ?
March 10, 2010 at 4:50 am
John
… and because of the whole Teva intellectual property issue they violate other rules the OECD has…
You know very little about this either. But you do know that an Israeli company is involved – and that is enough for you. As if no company from any other of the OECD members has ever gone to court over intellectual property rights or anything else.
PetertheHungarian has got your number:
- “There is an intellectual property case (for and) against an Israeli firm! This disqualifies them from membership!”-
-”But there are intellectual property cases for and against firms of all other nations in the organisation and all the time!”-
-”You are muddying the waters, we are speaking now about the Israelis.”-
March 10, 2010 at 5:22 am
John
Israel has reached an agreement with the United States over intellectual property rights, after a decade of disagreement. Industry, Trade and Labor Minister Benjamin Ben-Eliezer said yesterday that the two countries have reached an understanding which will remove Israel from the blacklist of nations that violate intellectual property rights.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1150947.html
In much more depth:
http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/docview.asp?did=1000542350&fid=980
March 10, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Yohoho
“The perils of shared computers…”
Now THAT would get you banned on CiF if your post didn’t chime with its world view. They’d say you were using multiple monikers.
March 10, 2010 at 5:45 pm
Yohoho
foreverisraeli – no, if it didn’t make any sense then it was written by Freedman – all show and absolutely no substance