This is a guest post by Bataween of Point of No Return
Rising from the ashes like a phoenix, the rebuilt Hurva synagogue is about to be inaugurated in Jerusalem’s Jewish quarter.
The synagogue, restored to 19th century magnificence with its finely carved wooden pillars, gilt ornamentation and frescoes of Jerusalem, is a rare symbol of the revival of Jewish life after Israel’s post-1967 reunification of the city. The synagogue was razed to the ground in 1948, dynamited by the Transjordanian Arab Legion, along with scores of other synagogues. The old city was depopulated of thousands of its Jewish inhabitants, their homes looted, the Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives desecrated and its tombstones used for latrines and as paving stones.
However, when Jubilation1 pointed out the destruction of the synagogues on the Jeremy Sharon thread, her comment was summarily deleted.
It is not clear to what exactly the moderator objected – was it Jubilation’s reference to Jerusalem’s destroyed Jewish past ? Or was it her cautionary remark: If you can’t learn from history you deserve to have it repeated”?
In case it was the former, the Guardian is not alone in suffering from a pre-1967 amnesia – blotting out Jewish ties to what is now know as ‘occupied Arab land’. When demonstrators protest against the eviction of Arab residents from their homes in Sheikh Jarrah in so-called ‘Arab East Jerusalem’, the media routinely fail to disclose that Jews expelled in 1948 still held the title deeds to these homes. The rights of the ‘indigenous’ Arabs rights invariably trump Jewish rights in the eyes of the Left. The media will not tell you that acres of land in ‘Arab East Jerusalem’ is the property of the JNF, that Kalandia refugee camp was built on Jewish property (or, for that matter, that Jews owned acres of land in the Golan Heights and in Jordan).
In case the phrase ‘if you can’t learn from history you deserve to have it repeated’ offended the moderator, Jubilation1 was simply stating a fact. She might well have been thinking of Joseph’s tomb near Nablus, which the Palestinians reduced to a pile of smouldering rubble in 2000 before turning it into a mosque and painting its dome green. Clearly, Israelis have learned from history that unless they assume responsibility for the restoration and preservation of sites important to Jewish heritage, they cannot rely on Arab and Muslim authorities to do it for them.
As Jeremy Sharon remarks, the Palestinian campaign against Israel’s efforts to preserve and maintain sites holy to Jews is part of a larger campaign of delegitimisation. There is a relentless campaign afoot to erase the Jewish presence not just in Palestine, but all over the Arab world, whose extensive Jewish history predates Islam by 1,000 years. Last month, it was shocking to learn that the Iraqi authorities were erasing Hebrew inscriptions at the shrine of Ezekiel, south of Baghdad as a prelude to turning the shrine into a mosque. The six Jews left in Iraq cannot singlehandedly be expected to prevent the inexorable Islamification of traditional Jewish holy sites. Certainly the UNESCO director-general Irina Bokova, who was quick to express her concern at Israel’s proposed restoration of Rachel’s tomb and the Cave of the Patriarchs in Hebron, has had nothing to say about irreversible changes to Ezekiel’s tomb.
David Harris of the American Jewish Committee has identified a ‘troubling pattern of trying to deny or extinguish a Jewish presence deeper into the region’. The western media are accomplices in this campaign: a seasoned Middle Eastern affairs journalist had been surprised to discover that Harris’s wife had, as a Jew, been forcibly expelled from her native Libya. The journalist had no idea that Jews had ever lived in Libya nor that every trace of the millenarian Jewish presence had been obliterated almost overnight. So un-newsworthy was the story at the time, that the New York Times, Harris says, devoted exactly two tiny news briefs in 1967 to the end of the Libyan Jewish community.
Harris finds it hard to explain the lack of media interest. Perhaps the media did not want the extra complication of the exodus of a million Jews from Arab countries to cloud their simplistic explanation of who the bad guys are in this conflict.
The erasure of Jewish history and heritage goes hand-in-hand with the fabrication of a novel Islamic history. Yasser Arafat, echoed by the Palestinian media, mosques and schools, had pioneered the idea that the Palestinians were the descendants of the ancient Canaanites or Jebusites. Not only did Arafat deny any Jewish tie with Temple Mount, he oversaw its desecration in the late 1990s and 2000 when the Waqf, which controls the site, dug up priceless archealogical artefacts.
In 2000, after hundreds of years of revering the site known as Rachel’s Tomb, Muslims began calling it the Bilal ibn Rabah mosque. Bilal ibn Rabah was an Ethiopian slave who served in the house of the prophet Muhammad as the first muezzin and then became a fighter in the Muslim wars. The Palestinian Authority claimed that, according to Islamic tradition, Muslim conquerors named the mosque erected at Rachel’s Tomb after Bilal ibn Rabah.
Yet another attempt by Muslims to disassociate their religion from its Jewish roots.








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March 8, 2010 at 11:58 pm
Abandon hope
The word ” slaughter ” would be the reason it was deleted. CIF will be sensitive after the Bagthorpe affair. The murder of the Jews does not need dressing up in incendiary language to be appalling.
March 9, 2010 at 12:01 am
Hawkeye
Bataween
Great post.
The double irony as alluded by you is that Jubilation1′s comment pointing out the cleansing of Jewish presence in Jerusalem was itself cleansed for the simple reason that it does not fit the narrative.
March 9, 2010 at 12:07 am
Hawkeye
Berchmans
“The word ” slaughter ” would be the reason it was deleted. CIF will be sensitive after the Bagthorpe affair.”
Putting aside your warped logic to defend the indefensible, the word “slaughter” was wholly appropriate. For example, there was the Hadassah Convoy Massacre:
“About 80 people, mostly innocent civilians, including doctors and nurses, were murdered while trying to bring medical supplies and personnel to Hadassah hospital on Mt. Scopus. The massacre was a gross violation of international military conventions, human rights and common decency.”
http://www.zionism-israel.com/his/Hadassah_convoy_Massacre.htm
March 9, 2010 at 12:12 am
JerusalemMite
Heres a comment that was not deleted.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/mar/08/turkey-armenia-genocide-us-vote#start-of-comments
centerlane
9 Mar 2010, 1:51AM
What hypocrisy. A US congress that continues to support and finance a country that is following a policy that will lead to what they accuse Turkey of doing almost century ago. We cannot change what has happened, but if the US congress joined the rest of the world in condemning Israel it would help insure that today?s Palestinians does not share the same future as the Armenians.
Perhaps the moderators excuse ‘centerlane’ because he didn’t actually say genocide.
March 9, 2010 at 1:23 am
Margie
Excellent and authoritative article, Bataween. The scandal of the plight of Middle Eastern Jews being ignored needs to be more widely known.
March 9, 2010 at 2:22 am
Israelinurse
Terrific article Bataween – thank you.
Every day, here in England, I walk past a row of houses called Macpelah. There’s another nearby called Beth El terrace, and then there’s Mount Zion church. The British Victorians certainly knew their history; what a pity that so many of their descendants seem set on erasing it.
March 9, 2010 at 2:40 am
JerusalemMite
Abandon hope
The word ” slaughter ” would be the reason it was deleted. CIF will be sensitive after the Bagthorpe affair. The murder of the Jews does not need dressing up in incendiary language to be appalling.
You fascist bigot.
I will remind you of this comment of yours and your words when Israel is slandered on Ci(f) yet, magically, the comment remains.
March 9, 2010 at 3:05 am
Margie
Berchmans’s interpretation, as usual, is simplistic in the extreme. He has decided that the word ”slaughter” is a new no-no. You can in other words, according to him, describe the wanton murder of Jews in any other words and the reference will remain up there in cif but call it ‘slaughter’ as Bapthorpe did, and it will be deleted.
It’s worth thinking before you submit a comment if you wish to have any hope of being considered reasonable.
March 9, 2010 at 3:40 am
Oy Va Goy
Great post. Whenever I’ve visited the Old City of Jerusalem I wonder what would have happened to the sites of the various religions had it been anyone other than Israel in charge of the city – it’s a spine-chilling thought.
March 9, 2010 at 4:00 am
Toko LeMoko
Is not al-Bataween the Baghdad quarter cleansed of it heavily Jewish population and of its historic Jewish population dating to one millennium prior to the Muslim invasion?
Yet, the situation has worsened since thaat cleansing. Bataween has accurately described the modern Muslim agenda — to physically cleanse ther world of Jewry, then to culturally cleanse history of the Jewish presence — an agenda unfortunately reminiscent of the NSDAP’s declared (and nearly accomplished) objectives.
But it is important to realise that the Guardian is an active collaborator in the Muslim campaign to ethnically cleanse the world of Jewish identity.
The Guardian has repeatedly insisted identifiable Jewish communities must assimilate and disappear:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/15/religion.communities
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/may/16/europe-jewish-community
The Guardian publishes apologia for the most vile of anti-Semites, deliberately using crucifixion language to revive the very medieval deicide accusation at the root of death and bloodshed for millions of Jewish victims:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2006/aug/06/comment.film
The Guardian provides a predictable grounds for anti-Semitic comments demanding Jews denounce themselves:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2009/mar/26/israel-race
The Guardian’s commenters get hatred of Jews and the Jewish state into completely unrelated topics, and the Guardian lets such hatred stand:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/apr/26/gypsies-travellers
The Guardian intervenes in a hostile manner in internal Jewish disputes:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/mar/20/faith-schools-judaism-religion-ideology
The Guardian perpetuates Protocols-like myths:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jan/07/gaza-america-media
The Guardian tries to tell Jews how to practise their religion:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/aug/27/israelandthepalestinians.middleeast
The Guardian tries to tell another country (the USA) NOT to choose a Jew for Vice-President:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/aug/26/johnmccain.uselections2008
It is difficult to understand how such a vile institution remains in existence, for its goals — to eliminate Jewry on behalf of its cultivated Muslim-leftist alliance — belong in the same dock with its fellow travellers of Nuremberg.
March 9, 2010 at 4:02 am
Serendipity
I am with Hawkeye on this Dopey. “Slaughter” was apt in those circumstances whereas “slaughter” as the ignominious Bapthorpe used it was not.
If you are right, and I don’t doubt it given the idiotic decisions in the past, you have pointed up very nicely how idiotic and the moderators tend to be – they seem completely incapable of getting the whole sense of what is written which is conveyed not only by the words used (hence the hullaballoo about your post to Mitnaged – and instead resort to knee jerk reacting to words and interpreting them out of context.
Again using Bapthorpe’s post as an example, his use of “slaughter” reflected the sick nature of his whole post – he actually wanted West Bank Jews slaughtered. On the other hand Jubilation1′s post described events and that that Jews were slaughtered by Jordanians in Jerusalem, which was true. If the mods were primed to delete and only saw “slaughtered” out of context, then the sooner CiF disappears the better.
Are you really so thick and don’t you realise that you are doing no favours to your CiF chums by giving that utterly lame excuse?
March 9, 2010 at 4:11 am
Fairplay
O Jerusalem, if I forget thee, let me be a Guardian reader !
March 9, 2010 at 4:13 am
Fairplay
PS to Serendipity,
Are *you* so thick that you don’t realize that our resident CIF clown *has* no chums?
March 9, 2010 at 4:16 am
HairShirt
OyvaGoy, Christians would have been “encouraged” to leave much as they are in Bethlehem and elsewhere on the West Bank.
JerusalemMite, Berchmans is a bigot but thinks that if he says he is not then we will believe that. He’s very CiF-oriented and Twat and Porgina keep doing that. He wants to be like them I expect.
Berchmans this is CiF’s attempt to censor the words we use to describe events and it’ll fail because CiF Watch allows what CiF does not. Language influences thought and vice versa and the daft editors of CiF believe that if they don’t allow the full description of major events important to Jews in Israel then those events will take on a lesser meaning and eventually be erased from memory. They will not while Bataween and others keep them alive.
Bataween – thanks for this excellent reminder of how Arabs treat other faiths in the name of Islam.
March 9, 2010 at 4:21 am
Serendipity
Fairplay the idiot Berchmans must have chums in the CiF management otherwise they’d have banned him long ago as an irrelevance who contributes nothing to what passes for debate there.
I think he’s getting bored with CiF, though, because all the decent, pro-Israel posters have left or contribute very little now. What few standards there were there have plummeted and they have to rely on the likes of Berchmans and raymond the looney and their ilk to keep the thing going.
March 9, 2010 at 4:55 am
JerusalemMite
Fairplay
O Jerusalem, if I forget thee, let me be a Guardian reeder !
Indeed.
March 9, 2010 at 6:18 am
pretzelberg
It is not clear to what exactly the moderator objected – was it Jubilation’s reference to Jerusalem’s destroyed Jewish past ? Or was it her cautionary remark: If you can’t learn from history you deserve to have it repeated”?
Oh come on. That is absolutely ridiculous. You know that’s not the case.
Looking at Jubilation1′s post, my guess would be that the word “slaughter” was deemed excessive – not that I personally would have deemed it worthy of deletion.
March 9, 2010 at 7:07 am
Jubilation1
Thank you for rescuing my comment and for the vivid illustration of the truth of this sorry tale.
Pretzelberg, how is the use of the word ‘slaughter’ excessive, given the following passage that I quoted in the thread in question?
Slaughter is an apt description. In fact it is the only possible description.
March 9, 2010 at 7:27 am
AKUS
Bataween – I await articles by Tony Lerman and Seth Freedman on this.
You wrote:
The synagogue, restored to 19th century magnificence with its finely carved wooden pillars, gilt ornamentation and frescoes of Jerusalem, is a rare symbol of the revival of Jewish life after Israel’s post-1967reunification of the city . The synagogue was razed to the ground in 1948, dynamited by the Transjordanian Arab Legion, along with scores of other synagogues.
He will write:
The synagogue, restored to 19th century magnificence with its finely carved wooden pillars, gilt ornamentation and frescoes of Jerusalem, is a rare symbol of the revival of Jewish life after Zionism caused its destruction in 1948. The synagogue was razed to the ground in 1948, abandoned by the Zionists, along with scores of other synagogues.
Freedman will write:
This atrocity, restored to pseudo-19th century magnificence with its finely carved wooden pillars, gilt ornamentation and frescoes of Jerusalem, is a typical symbol of the unfeeling jackbooted Israelis after Israel’s post-1967 occupation of Jerusalem. The synagogue has been built illegally in place of houses that were razed to the ground that were owned by Arabs who lived there since they were awarded those houses by the Transjordanian Arab Legion in the 1948.
And raymonddelauney/dotty will comment “Fine article, Sir! Telling it like it is!”
You definitely don’t seem to understand the Guardian World View nor the Ilan Pappe view of Israeli history.
(Fine article, by the way!!)
March 9, 2010 at 7:30 am
AKUS
No – Jubilation’s comment was deleted because of the use of the term “ethnic cleansing”.
On I/P threads that is reserved for Palestinians.
March 9, 2010 at 7:51 am
Margie
Akus
Well done: you captured their individual essential lack of sincerity. I am sure that any visiting Guardian mod or editor reading that must be glad that they managed to get rid of you
March 9, 2010 at 8:18 am
pretzelberg
@ Jubilation1
I am merely speculating on the reason for the deletion, i.e. that the mods might have considered the word “slaughter” (or indeed “ethnic cleansing”) excessive.
As I said above: I personally would not have deleted your comment.
March 9, 2010 at 8:48 am
Jubilation1
Well Pretzelberg the words slaughter and ethnic cleansing are still evident in the thread, mainly in the comments of those who quoted me and weren’t deleted. Prozac & Papalagi to name two.
Inefficient? or just prejudiced?
March 9, 2010 at 9:27 am
pretzelberg
@ Jubilation1
In that case it was b*ll*cks of the mods to delete your post – although it was a b*ll*cks decision anyway.
March 9, 2010 at 9:58 am
Abandon hope
Serendipity
.
” that utterly lame excuse?”
.
I had a second look …perhaps worried about the legal implications with Jordan?… the alternative non utterly lame excuse is they are fixated on destroying Israel etc etc …this is risible.
March 9, 2010 at 10:10 am
Abandon hope
Jubilation1
” the words slaughter and ethnic cleansing are still evident in the thread, .. and weren’t deleted. ”
The moderators will respond to the ” abuse ” button and CIF will have a huge majority of pro Palestinians …especially now so many have been banned hence the weight will not be on your side. You are striving to find a cloak and a dagger… whereas there are straight explanations.
March 9, 2010 at 10:25 am
The Whited Sepulchres of CIF
‘I had a second look …perhaps worried about the legal implications with Jordan?… the alternative non utterly lame excuse is they are fixated on destroying Israel etc etc’
But that is exactly the tenor of obliterating memory and the Jewish connection to the land. It is the obliteration of a people in microcosm.
Brian Whitaker, Ben White et al. are both engaging in the Whitewashing of Palestinian and Arab nationalism and nations, to leave those peoples essentially clean, but Israeli Jews tinged with original sin.
It is an obliteration that is as fascist and genocidal as Churchill’s 7JC made out to be Israeli Jews.
‘The moderators will respond to the ” abuse ” button and CIF will have a huge majority of pro Palestinians …especially now so many have been banned hence the weight will not be on your side.’
i.e. the ‘injustice’ breeds/excuses the terrorism
‘You are striving to find a cloak and a dagger… whereas there are straight explanations.’
i.e. I, Berchmans, was wrong/lying/whatever I find useful at the time and the moderation at CIF is a joke.
March 9, 2010 at 10:29 am
JerusalemMite
pretzelberg
Looking at Jubilation1’s post, my guess would be that the word “slaughter” was deemed excessive – not that I personally would have deemed it worthy of deletion.
They don’t like ‘terrorist scum’ either. Perhaps ‘freedom fighting scum’ would be better?
March 9, 2010 at 10:40 am
TomWonacott
Excellent article Bataween
– and, excellent comment Jubilation1
“…..The western media are accomplices in this campaign….”
Yep, and not just the Guardian. I really hate to imagine what history books are going to look like in 500 years.
March 9, 2010 at 11:02 am
JerusalemMite
Pretz. I just compiled a list of the usage of the word ‘slaughter’ when applied to Israeli actions.
bass46 – 23 Feb 2010, 2:22PM
Hornstein – 17 Dec 2009, 1:54PM
bergamo – 8 Dec 2009, 9:02AM
Hornstein – 4 Dec 2009, 5:39PM
orwellwasright – 7 Dec 2009, 3:55PM
bailliegillies – 2 Dec 2009, 4:03PM
Valencienne – 26 Nov 2009, 1:41PM
CiF allows ‘slaughter’ to be used to describe Israeli actions but doesn’t allow Palestinian Arabs or Arabs/Muslims to be ‘credited’ with ‘slaughter’.
All part of the Georgina doctrine of ‘fair and balanced’ presentation. (My Foot – Michael).
It must be horrible for that evil coven of deplorable Guardian editors to realise that they are being held to account for their crusade to demonise the one western liberal democracy in the Middle East.
March 9, 2010 at 12:03 pm
TomWonacott
JerusalemMite
You can only slaughter the “victims” – not the oppressor……
March 9, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Abandon hope
JerusalemMite
Your list in your 11:02 is commendable and anorakal but I repeat ..the moderators will respond to the ” abuse ” button and CIF will have a huge majority of pro Palestinians . There are few pro Israelis left. People on CIF who use slanders like “fascist bigot” are usually banned.Im not saying they should be.. Im just saying.
You are leaping to the conclusion of bias when the more likely reason is that the moderators did not notice the offending posts. No one reported them.
March 9, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Lbnaz
In 2000, after hundreds of years of revering the site known as Rachel’s Tomb, Muslims began calling it the Bilal ibn Rabah mosque.
And apparently Khevron (Hebron), which in Arabic is called Khalil, ostensibly to commemorate ‘Ibrahim Khalil’, or Ibrahim’s (Abraham’s/Avraham’s) Burial place, is not the only location in the Middle East that Arab Muslims have traditionally claimed and revered as a Khalil Ibrahim.
However, in more recent years, the other locations for Ibrahim Khalil (which are found in present day Iraq) have been either ignored, forgotten, or de-emphasized in favor of the Ibrahim Khalil in the West Bank.
Possibly, the more recent de-emphasis and forgetting of the other sacred sites for Ibrahim Khalil among Muslims, was also a political decision, taken as part of the increasing Arab opposition to Jewish immigration to the area in the late 19th and 1st half of the 20th centuries, culminating in the Haj Amin al Husseini instigated massacre of Khevron’s centuries old Jewish population in 1929, because Jews have revered the Khevron site alone for millennia as Avraham’s (and the other Patriarch’s) burial site.
See EoZ’s blog entry (containing pictures and primary documents) here: http://tinyurl.com/yasbgp8
March 9, 2010 at 1:33 pm
peterthehungarian
Berchmans
I repeat ..the moderators will respond to the ” abuse ” button and CIF will have a huge majority of pro Palestinians.
Could be true. We all know that in according to their standard of free speech if the majority of the posters don’t like the opposing opinion it must be deleted, especially if it doesn’t match the Guardian’s party line.
BTW The huge majority what you call pro-Palestinians, don’t give a used condom about them, they know nothing about them, they are not interested to know anything about them, but they would fight the Jews to the Palestinians’ last drop of blood from their armchair. Remember the ignorant racist asshole (it is you Berchmans) who used Turkish names for Palestinians? (Muslims are just the same right – most of them are called Mohamed.)
People on CIF who use slanders like “fascist bigot” are usually banned
Do you refer at JerusalemMite’s short but perfectly apt description of you on the other thread?
March 9, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Yohoho
Dopey – “anorakal?????”
A word of advice in your shell-like:
Master the basics of writing good English before you resort to posting neologisms.
March 9, 2010 at 2:24 pm
HairShirt
TomWonacott, the history of the UK and the West will have an Islamist spin.
March 9, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Abandon hope
peterthehungarian
” “fascist bigot” Do you refer at JerusalemMite’s short but perfectly apt description ”
And witty …better than “faggot biscuit “which I thought he called me at first. That J M …always a hoot.
March 9, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Abandon hope
Yohoho
“Master the basics of writing good English before you resort to posting neologisms.”
We gave the world the historical novel…the enlightenment…the finest ever poet…you are so far out of your depth that you have gone under and not even noticed.
March 9, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Snigger
“..You are leaping to the conclusion of bias when the more likely reason is that the moderators did not notice the offending posts. No one reported them….”
Then what are you still doing here Berchmans?
Get back there and keep pushing that abuse button. At least there’s something you’re good at.
The reason that there are so few pro-Israelis left on CiF is that the moderators, being thick as the proverbial short planks and not having the nous to work out the context of what is being said, and focusing instead on key words, have banned all the good ones like AKUS, Mitnaged, SarahLeah and Repunzal (apols to many others I haven’t mentioned). Others, like yours truly, have closed down their accounts. Life is too short to spend trying to reason with people who are hate-filled and solid from the neck up and CiF doesn’t deserve a milisecond more of our time.
I am very glad of CiF Watch
March 9, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Yohoho
Does that mean that you don’t know what a neologism is Berchmans?
Look it up in the OED.
I am amazed such a one as you could form one. It must have been by accident, rather like a chimp who paints fine art.
March 9, 2010 at 5:02 pm
peter1
“They also used ancient Jewish gravestones as flooring for latrines or to repair the roads”- Jubilation1
As a point of interest, actions somehow have a way of coming back to haunt.
You are correct about the usage of the gravestones, which were used to widen the roads and in effect were the reason the IDF was able to roll into Jerusalem in 1967.
Those very same widened roads ALLOWED the IDF Armor to move in support of the gallant lads and contributed to the unification of the eternal capital, Jerusalem.
Had the Arabs not desecrated the burial grounds it is entirely possible, actually probable, that Jerusalem would not have been unified.
March 9, 2010 at 5:19 pm
pretzelberg
@ JerusalemMite
Re. your compilation:
How did you find that out?
My guess would be Googling slaughter + commentisfree.
But even then, I think the search only covers the 1st page, i.e. the first 50 comments.
So in fact the figures might be even worse!
Unless you loaded up every single thread to “show all comments” status. Did you?
Re. “CiF doesn’t allow Palestinian Arabs or Arabs/Muslims to be ‘credited’ with ’slaughter’”
That’s nonsense, mate.
I also have my issues with the CiF mods – but let’s not exaggerate.
March 9, 2010 at 10:06 pm
TomWonacott
Hi Hairshirt
Even without the inevitable change in the populations due to immigration from the third world, the western media is committed to “fabricating” history, thus, Major Hassan was clinically insane, no different than the Virginia Tech gunman, Seung-Hui Cho. Thus, Hassan was not an Islamic terrorist at all. But Timothy McVeigh will be remembered as a right wing terrorist (which he was)………
March 9, 2010 at 11:19 pm
Withheld
Interesting observation TomWonacott. You can tie that up with many incidents in the Middle East too.
The killer at Ras al Burka who shot Israeli tourists and the gunman at Naharayim Power station who shot schoolgirls on a class expedition were both labelled insane by their governments. This leads me to speculate that Moslems go insane when they are given weapons to handle.
March 9, 2010 at 11:43 pm
Abandon hope
.
m very glad of CiF Watch
Yohoho
” It must have been by accident, rather like a chimp who paints fine art. ”
You are being chimpist . Some of us can do this ( neologisms) before breakfast. You have got to adjust to the fact that being the smartest kid in the class as you were…simply means you were in a class of slowoids,
……
Withheld
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” Moslems go insane when they are given weapons to handle. ”
You would think on a site dedicated to monitoring and exposing religious bias that a twinge of realisation would flash through posters minds when they post discriminatory tosh .
Apparantly not.
March 9, 2010 at 11:51 pm
TomWonacott
Withheld
If your theory is right, they must have the highest snap rate in the world, and apparently, they snap in groups as well. They’ve been snapping in Russia, China, Algeria, Somali, Thailand, and all over the Middle East. They must be the snappingest people the world has ever known. All this is good if you are a lawyer that specializes in criminal snapping…..
March 10, 2010 at 12:16 am
Abandon hope
TomWonacott
.
” They must be the snappingest people the world has ever known ”
I repeat .. on a site dedicated to monitoring and exposing religious bias you would think people would have the nous to stop this discrimination.
March 10, 2010 at 3:39 am
Smells like Poteen Spirit
‘We gave the world the historical novel…the enlightenment…the finest ever poet’
The typical defensive reflex of the self-loving tribalist. It’s impossible for Berchie to be poor at spelling, because the Scots are so great.
Fascist creep.
March 11, 2010 at 6:07 pm
Steven
Excellent post, should be read by all.