The Jenny Tonge affair is not yet cold and its details have been amply documented in the press and are still being discussed throughout the blogosphere. At the time of writing, Baroness Tonge has been dismissed from her role as Liberal Democrat spokesperson for health, but has not had the whip withdrawn, been dismissed from the party or removed from the House of Lords. In the interests of fairness, it must be observed that the latter two options, whilst not impossible, are relatively complicated courses of action.
The question which needs to be asked is ‘does it matter?’ So what if a peer of the realm has made remarks more befitting of a medieval blood libel? There’s certainly nothing new about Jenny Tonge making statements which are grossly offensive to most Jews. So what if the leader of Britain’s third largest political party has given her a token slap on the wrist but has reneged on his previous promises to act if she made antisemitic remarks on his watch? Nothing very novel there; politicians make promises they have no intention of keeping all the time and after all, Tonge got to the elevated position in which she finds herself today after (and some may say, because of) a similar scandal in 2004. So what if Nick Clegg has pronounced the troublesome Baroness ‘not anti-Semitic’ despite the public outcry? Surely we are used by now to people telling us what we should or should not consider antisemitic even when it is quite clearly not their call to make. So what if a member of democratic Britain’s highest lawmaking and governing institution is publicly promoting libels identical to those which have been broadcast by a corrupt hereditary third world dictatorship.
Well, what matters in my view is that by and large until now it was still feasible to say that antisemitism in the UK, although indisputably on the rise and increasingly threatening in the context of the daily lives of British Jews, was still a kind of antisemitism which for the most part came from below. In other words, it was a symptom of a malaise which afflicts some ordinary (albeit very loud) citizens rather than being something generally acceptable to those leading the country. The significance of the latest Tonge affair is that we now have indisputable evidence that a member of Britain’s highest government institution sees nothing wrong in, and feels comfortable about, promoting an antisemitic blood libel. More importantly, neither her party leader nor the other members of the parliamentary body of which she is a member appear to comprehend the gravity of this fact. The lack of appropriate censure by either Clegg or the House of Lords can only convey to the average citizen living under the jurisdiction of that body that the crudest, most ancient type of antisemitic blood libel is nothing exceptional in the eyes of the leaders of 21st century Britain.
Whilst the number of true antisemites in the UK may still be thankfully relatively moderate, they gain strength and legitimacy from the silence of bystanders such as Nick Clegg who, instead of summoning the courage to stand up to antisemitism, try to dismiss it when it is obviously staring them in the face. What Clegg and the rest of the Liberal Democrat party, as well as the members of the House of Lords, need to remember is that the rising tide of antisemitism in the UK does not only poison the atmosphere for its Jewish minority; it is also the environment in which they are allowing their children to grow up. Do they have the courage to aspire to a better society than the one presently polluted by antisemitism or will they continue by their silence to acquiesce to antisemitic libel, as promoted by Jenny Tonge, being made a hallmark of British governing bodies? Yellow may be the Liberal Democrats’ campaigning colour in these upcoming elections, but it doesn’t have to be an adjective for British leadership.






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February 13, 2010 at 8:39 pm
modernityblog
“they gain strength and legitimacy from the silence of bystanders such as Nick Clegg who, instead of summoning the courage to stand up to antisemitism, try to dismiss it when it is obviously staring them in the face. “
Excellent point.
Good timing as well, I have posted on Tonge’s racism recently, and topically I am in the middle of finishing another one off
February 13, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Jonathan Hoffman
Israelinurse
You are absolutely right that those in positions of reponsibility in the UK are saying things now that they never would have said 5 years ago. Other examples are Oliver Miles (former Ambassador, Tripoli) – who said that people might question the impartiality of the two Jewish historians on the Iraq Inquiry – and Sir Alistair Hunter (former Consul NY) who said “Anti-Israel is different from anti-Semitic. There is, happily, little anti-Semitism in Britain compared with the 1930s, but a growing tide of outrage at Israel’s behaviour towards the Palestinians.”
The malefactors are pushing to see how far they can go, who pushes back and how hard.
It is up to every right-thinking person to push back as hard and as vocally as possible.
“Zero Tolerance”.
February 14, 2010 at 1:15 am
Margie
Excellent and expert analysis of the situation IsraeliNurse.
I agree with Jonathan Hoffman: there should be Zero Tolerance for antisemitism.
February 14, 2010 at 1:34 am
AKUS
I think that Tonge’s comment, like Michael White’s, show that it has become normative assume that Israel is guilty, until it can prove otherwise, of any vile accusation that can be hurled at it. The trick that is being employed, deliberately or not, is to demand that Israel prove that something that never happened, never happened. Which is, of course, impossible, and never demanded of other countries.
A moment’s reflection would have shown Tonge that there is no way for Israel to present the non-existent organs it never harvested from Haitians, but the norm she operates under is so strong that it trumps basic logic.
I expect to see a certain amount of anti-Semitism, just as one sees discrimination or objection at some level to almost any group you care to name (it seems to be part of human nature), but it is very concerning when those in positions of influence, be it in politics, the media, industry, or academia use their positions to increase the level of anti-Semitism. In the UK or elsewhere, and it has become a global phenomenon.
February 14, 2010 at 2:26 am
JerusalemMite
Tonge is obviously demented about Israel and she is not alone.
It is despicable that the whip has not been withdrawn from this ghastly woman.
Tonge of Fink make a real pair.
February 14, 2010 at 4:38 am
tongetied
The Tonge needs to have her tongue tied,that is after they have managed to pull her foot out of her mouth.
She was the Liberal Democrat spokesperson for health.You would think that someone who has a very bad case of foot in the mouth disease would not be fit to be a spokesperson for anything that has to do with health.
Now lets guess where the Liberal Democrats will slot her in next.I could make a few suggestions,noone would be legal.
February 14, 2010 at 5:17 am
tongetied
This from a poster on CiF called BeautifulBurnout,who also happens to be a contributor.
“Hang on.What evidence do we have,other than what the JC says,that Jenny Tonge said any such thing,or the context in which it was said.”
Then she goes on to say “I can’t imagine her offering up this kind of comment without it being prompted” The rest is some more Blah Blah Blah.
Does the Guardian provide shovels to their contributors.
February 14, 2010 at 5:29 am
Gerald Kreeve
“Hang on.What evidence do we have,other than what the JC says,that Jenny Tonge said any such thing,or the context in which it was said Suddenly people who quote without fear day after day from the press (notably the Guardian), question the truth of a journalist. I note too that Ms.Tonge herself has not objected.
February 14, 2010 at 5:33 am
Biodegradable
Tonge herself has not apologised either. All we have is Clegg saying that she has.
February 14, 2010 at 7:47 am
Biodegradable
Far from apologising there’s this:
Maybe she did apologise to Clegg, but the above shows she still believes there’s a Zionist conspiracy working against her, and of course she’s really concerned that the issue has harmed Israel.
February 14, 2010 at 8:54 am
AKUS
“Now lets guess where the Liberal Democrats will slot her in next.I could make a few suggestions,noone would be legal”.
Shadow foreign minister is the next step up the ladder – the Peter principle always applies.
Imagine a meeting between her and Avigdor Lieberman!!!!!
February 14, 2010 at 9:38 am
RepublicanStones
and Sir Alistair Hunter (former Consul NY) who said “Anti-Israel is different from anti-Semitic. There is, happily, little anti-Semitism in Britain compared with the 1930s, but a growing tide of outrage at Israel’s behaviour towards the Palestinians.”
J Hoffman, could please explain to me where the anti-semitism is in that statement?
February 14, 2010 at 10:15 am
Abandon hope
AKUS
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” it has become normative assume that Israel is guilty, until it can prove otherwise, of any vile accusation that can be hurled at it. ”
It is a weird one I’ll give you that. It seems crazy that Tonge could say this and not simply treat it as the impossible slur that it is. As to the first part of your sentence…a year ago the IDF carried out a brutal easily avoidable attack on a city. They almost certainly use chemical weapons but even ” standard ” munitions are shockingly murderous in a confined space.
Israel does herself no favours and it is hardly a surprise if the knee jerk reaction is “guilty”!!!!!!
February 14, 2010 at 10:24 am
Serendipity
Berchmans, it’s no surprise if the kneejerk reaction BY IDIOTS is “guilty.”
And which city and do you know why the attack was carried out? Perhaps you can flesh out the facts as you have found them.
I would imagine, stones, that the antisemitism is inherent in the linkage between holding Jews in general and everywhere in the world responsible for Israel’s actions, real or imagined. It’s quite telling that you seem to need to have that explained.
February 14, 2010 at 10:30 am
RepublicanStones
Anti-Israel is different from anti-Semitic. There is, happily, little anti-Semitism in Britain compared with the 1930s, but a growing tide of outrage at Israel’s behaviour towards the Palestinians.”
Surely by saying anti-israel is not anti-semitic he is demonstrating the lack of link. And of course the likes of this website which sees anti-semitism under every stone of criticism against israel, does not really help such distinctions.
February 14, 2010 at 10:41 am
Serendipity
stones, (sigh). In the first part and he is talking about the 1930s but then he ropes in the “growing tide of outrage at Israel’s behaviour towards the Palestinians , after the “but”, in the next part of the sentence which implies that he believes that antisemitism is rising. This also beds in the statement’s nasty subtext, the “not-quite-spoken but definitely meant” that any antisemitism is because of Israel’s alleged bad behaviour towards the Palestinians.
Inherent in that may be, depending on the bent of the speaker or the reader, the inclination towards holding Jews in general responsible for Israel’s behaviour.
And we know that that happens don’t we stones?
February 14, 2010 at 10:49 am
HairShirt
Berchmans you are doing it again!
“Israel does herself no favours… yada yada yada….”
You are, for all I know, telling us a pack of lies about the alleged attack on a city since you don’t tell us which city or give us a link to any disinterested source of information (you probably got the information from some high suspect Israel-bashing site if you didn’t make it up), and yet you immediately go on to write as if what you are telling us is true and that “Israel does herself no favours….” on the strength of …. what precisely????
Give us the link, Berchmans. Otherwise don’t make such ridiculous statements.
February 14, 2010 at 10:51 am
RepublicanStones
He mentions anti-israel first then anti-semitism. He alludes to their being little anti-semitism, and then mentions anti-israel feeling vis-a-vis the palestinians. He says there is no major anti-semitism, ‘but’ as in rather, not ‘but’ as in ‘save for’ or ‘except’.
And we know that that happens don’t we stones
unfortunately it does. But again it is not helped with claiming anti-semitism every time criticism of israel appears, now is it? Also not helped with supporters of Israel claiming all jews are tied into israel’s behaviour. As happened recenlty with the aid to haiti.
February 14, 2010 at 10:53 am
Gerald Kreeve
“Also not helped with supporters of Israel claiming all jews are tied into israel’s behaviour. As happened recenlty with the aid to haiti.”
What?
February 14, 2010 at 10:56 am
RepublicanStones
What?
Your sethomenter broken is it gerald?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jan/22/israel-haiti-relief-palestine
February 14, 2010 at 11:04 am
Gerald Kreeve
”all Jews are tied into Israel’s behaviour”???? where do you get that from
February 14, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Abandon hope
HairShirt
“You are, for all I know, telling us a pack of lies about the alleged attack on a city since you don’t tell us which city ”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_War
I did say “a year ago.” …the redevelopment of Beirut was summer 06. I will accept that Gaza is not a city so I am wrong ..yet right if you see what I mean.
February 14, 2010 at 1:50 pm
HairShirt
You are gonna have to do better than that Berchmans. Didn’t you see the following at the head of the Wiki entry when you snatched it out of thin air?
“The neutrality of this article is disputed. Please see the discussion on the talk page. Please do not remove this message until the dispute is resolved. “
Which means that your source’s capability to be neutral and unbiased is suspect, isn’t it?
Which in turn means that your own capability to be neutral and unbiased is suspect, doesn’t it?
February 14, 2010 at 2:02 pm
HairShirt
stones, there’s an excellent article here on CiFWatch at http://cifwatch.com/2010/01/23/despicable-seth/ which makes short work of the execrable Freedman’s attempts to undermine the excellence of Israel’s aid to Haiti. (Incidentally, where was the aid from the Arab countries? Care to post a link to any report of it?)
That article goes together with http://cifwatch.com/2010/01/23/why-was-this-deleted-2/
Read them both. Then I shan’t have to waste any more time on you.
February 14, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Abandon hope
HairShirt
“Which in turn means that your own capability to be neutral ”
Why would I be neutral? A mini superpower trashes a heavily populated area ..killing a thousand civilians…”now let us look at this fairly”?????????
February 14, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Biodegradable
Ah-ha, the Berchmans we all know and hate, and deserves to be hated too!
{spit!}
February 14, 2010 at 2:35 pm
HairShirt
Your own mouth condemns you, Berchmans. You admit your own bias, which is a real handicap when you are trying to argue a case.
Did they not teach you in social worker school that in argument you should try to quote credible, verifiable and objective sources? To be able to do this means that you would be a good debater, regardless of your biases!
But we have the results above of what you did instead. There you go again with your drivel “mini superpower, yada yada yada…” totally missing the point that Hamas had been firing almost continually on that superpower’s civilians for over eight years! All of this means that Hamas must be dafter than you are and that you have missed the point completely, if, indeed, you ever had it.
And 600 civilians were killed, most of them deliberately put in harm’s way by Hamas. Didn’t you see the proud Hamas spokesman on YouTube saying that the young and the elderly are particularly useful as human shields and that they love death more than sane and decent people love life?
Looking at it fairly, as you put it, would mean examining the role of useful idiots like you in perpetuating the victim status of the Palestinian people (who I have often said here and elsewhere deserve far, far better), by supporting or excusing and not roundly condemning the activities of the Hamas murderers who steal their lives, livelihoods and their children’s futures.
If I were a Palestinian, Berchmans, I’d not want to be supported by such a one as you, believe me.
February 14, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Duvid Crockett
Thanks for this Israelinurse. “Yellow”. Hmm, that’s given me an idea. Meanwhile, keep singing this one from the archives:
Poison Tongue (to the tune of “Robin Hood, Riding through the Glen”)
(Hat tip: Carl Sigman from “The Adventures of Robin Hood” TV series 1955-60)
Jenny Tongue, Poison Tongue, shvitzing in the Lords,
Lib-dem joke, Tongue will croak slime, bile and eat its words.
Feared by Nick Clegg; a Tongue-lash he’ll beg
From Poison Tongue; up his bum; yum-yum-yum.
(trumpet riff solo with coconut shell hoof percussion and whoopee cushion)
Poison Tongue licks the crumb from the terrorists’ table.
Scalds the lips of Lib-dem schnips.
She’s no Betty Grable.
Loves Jeremy Thorpe; at them we’ll gawp.
Poison Tongue; takes a bung; upstairs slung.
(trumpet riff solo + coconut shell cracking sound effect)
DS Al Coda
February 14, 2010 at 2:47 pm
RepublicanStones
”all Jews are tied into Israel’s behaviour”???? where do you get that from
Gerald, please don’t selectively edit my sentences. What i said was…
“Also not helped with supporters of Israel claiming all jews are tied into israel’s behaviour. As happened recenlty with the aid to haiti.”
Can you not read the link?
Hairshirt – (Incidentally, where was the aid from the Arab countries? Care to post a link to any report of it?)
Sure no prob, try this….
http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/NewsDesk.nsf/0/1C3BD06392B85A48C22576AB00361BDC?OpenDocument
or this..
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle09.asp?xfile=data/international/2010/January/international_January856.xml§ion=international
ot this…
http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=337312&version=1&template_id=57&parent_id=56
or this…
http://www.kuwaittimes.net/read_news.php?newsid=ODY4NDYxMzY4
and again..
http://www.moroccopost.net/politics/434-two-moroccan-planes-carrying-moroccan-aid-to-haiti-left-the-city-of-kenitra/
heres more…
http://www.jordantimes.com/?news=23195
And what has your seth rebuttals got to do with the fact some people like to link all jews to israel? Do you deny this happens?
February 14, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Biodegradable
Be aware that RepublicanStones has taken over an entire thread elsewhere:
http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/2010/02/i-used-to-be-indecisive-but-now-im-not.html
February 14, 2010 at 3:06 pm
fairly
Berchmans try to restrain yourself,you keep repeating the same nonsense,it might work in that trashy Guardian,but it won’t wash here.
A mini superpower? Killing a thousand civilians?.”Now let us look at this fairly”????
Berchmans when was the last time that you looked at anything fairly.
February 14, 2010 at 3:13 pm
HairShirt
Well, biodegradable, all he’s doing here is boosting the hit count which makes CiF Watch look even more successful.
Ignore the slob.
He’ll get tired soon.
February 14, 2010 at 3:33 pm
RepublicanStones
You a fan Bio?
hairshirt did you read those links?
February 14, 2010 at 4:05 pm
fairly
The IDF is going to harvest Jenny Tonge’s organs,any bidders for her brain.
February 14, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Duvid Crockett
Here is the “Yellow” song as promised:
Yellow Fellow (to the tune of “Mellow Yellow”,)
(Hat tip: Donovan Leitch)
Clegg is mad about his Tongue-lashing.
Tongue brings the kidney harvest.
Kennedy in whisky is splashing,
While Tongue starts its harvest hate-fest.
They call him “Yellow fellow,” (quite right)
They call him “Yellow fellow”. (some sight)
Hughes likes to play straight with gay boys.
He is “the straight candidate.”
With Tatchell his bat wasn’t too straight.
Pete refused to be his play-mate.
Hughes just says, “Hello fellow.” (quite straight)
Hughes just says, “Hello fellow. (Need a date?”)
Oaten likes to pay for those rent-boys.
“I’ll survive,” his favourite song.
Didn’t survive, but still uses sex-toys.
Like bellows to pump up his schlong.
They call him, “bellows fellow.” (pump right)
Below his rent-boy fellow. (up tight.)
DS Al Coda
February 14, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Louise
It seems that Clegg fired Tonge without even speaking to her as she was travelling to France. He also said she was very sorry without confirming that with her.
She remains a Patron of the Palestine Chronicle which pumps out antisemitic bilge:
http://www.hurryupharry.org/2010/02/14/stop-the-haters/
As Habibi says on Harrys Place: “Are there any activists in either party [Lab or LibDem] who are prepared to take on this essential fight?”
February 14, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Daniel
Apologies for saying this, but all of the focus on Berchmans (good sports as it may be) seems to be distracting from the actual issue here. What Lady Tonge has said is so serious, so disgraceful, so insidious that I can be counted among those (e.g. most of the good people who are part of CIF Watch community, among others) who feel that “we” should absolutely not let it go until real, meaningful action is taken. Granted I’m an American so I suppose this isn’t “my” fight. But the slander is against Israel—and yes by association Jews—and therefore I feel it IS my fight.
In reading her pathetic response that was quoted above, one passage stood out in particular:
“I actually congratulated Israel for their prompt response to the disaster and said that if allegations were being made they should conduct an inquiry to dispel any rumors [sic]. OK? It is quite ludicrous….”
This goes to the key message of this article by Israelinurse: Far from the onus being on Israel to conduct an inquiry into something that the Baronness herself says is ludicrous, what all fair minded people should be saying is: ENOUGH!! Enough of the libel, the hate, the bigotry, the dehumanization of Israel. Of Israelis. Of Jews. And if the Baronness really believed it was ludicrous, her word as an avowed advocate of the Palestinians would seem to be enough to get her fellow travelers to understand the ludicrousness of it all. Therefore, her email is beyond disengenuous.
Which then gets to the larger point of the raison d’etre for CIF Watch, for the ADL, for Engage, for CRIF, for the Weisenthal Center, for the AJC, for Mediabackspin, CAMERA, SPME, and multitudes of organizations worldwide whose mission is to identify, call out and stop the scourge of anti-Semitism. Those organizations, and those of us who are part of them, exist because of one reason: Anti-Semitism is real. And when we see it, it terrifies us. And it terrifies us because it is a virus that left untreated has proven time and again to lead to ostracism, dehumanization, and death for millions of people. PEOPLE. Jews yes. But PEOPLE.
And the sooner that pieces of shit like Jenny Tonge themselves are banished, ostracized, held up as examples of what is SIMPLY NOT TO BE TOLERATED IN A CIVILIZED SOCIETY, then the sooner CIF Watch, ADL, Engage and all of us can fold up our tents and stop being on guard.
Until then, we are here. And where possible we WILL work together. We WILL lobby our governments. We WILL use our influence and power. We will NOT RELENT.
And we will make sure they don’t forget it.
February 14, 2010 at 10:08 pm
TomWonacott
IsraeliNurse
From Wikipedia:
“…..Tonge said in 2006: “The pro-Israeli lobby has got its grips on the western world, its financial grips. I think they’ve probably got a grip on our party.” In response, Liberal Democrat leader Sir Menzies Campbell chastised Tonge, saying her remarks were “unacceptable” and had “clear anti-Semitic connotations.” An all-party group of lords led by the former archbishop of Canterbury, George Carey, said her irresponsible and inappropriate comments “evoked a classic anti-Jewish conspiracy theory.”[citation needed] In response Tonge said that professors Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer’s article “The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy” that appeared in the March 23, 2006 issue of The London Review of Books supported her assertion that the “‘Israel lobby’ had a disproportionate voice in Anglo-American foreign policy.” She also emphasized that her comments “were about the Israeli lobby in politics. They were a big distance from being about Jewishness or anti-Semitism.”
Ms. Tonge has a history of antisemitism so it should come as no surprise that she accused Israel of organ harvesting. Notice how she cited Walt’s and Mearsheimer’s book as a cover for her antisemitism. The liberal democrats are a center left political party in Great Britain.
February 15, 2010 at 12:10 am
Abandon hope
HairShirt
.
“And 600 civilians were killed, most of them deliberately ”
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An older boy made me do it …Homer .
Even if they tied their children to themselves …they were still killed. You dont get it do you? You are supporting a state that killed these kids as a political stunt..following the Nov 4th provocation. The war was conducted to look strong..killing civilians was just a side issue.
Daniel
“, but all of the focus on Berchmans (good sports as it may be) ”
If I underperform..it is because I have one hand tied behiund my back of course having to be good ..whilst you guys get to use your stupid unprovable allegations of anti Semitism …which you must know irritate and confound…as they are designed to do.
Tonge’s allegation was ridiculous and here we are talking about anti Semitism yet again..as if that is an important issue compared to the alienation and empoverishment of millions of Palestinians.
February 15, 2010 at 12:34 am
peter1
People, feeding our troll is pointless.
The extent of his knowledge fits into a thimble with room to spare.
He has shown no ability to absorb information or learn anything as he continues to babble just for the sake of passing air through his teeth.
Idiot wind, blowing every time you move your mouth,
Blowing down the backroads headin’ south.
Idiot wind, blowing every time you move your teeth,
You’re an idiot, babe.
It’s a wonder that you still know how to breathe
Of course Duvid is invited to present something more personal.
February 15, 2010 at 3:37 am
Fairplay
Daniel is right. Blatant antisemitism must be fought and defeated. Jenny Tonge must be exposed. It’s scandalous that an educated person in 2010 can harbor such racist sentiments and express them in public. We should dig deeper into her past history and look for the warning signs that were perhaps ignored.
It all goes to show that antisemitism and anti-Zionism make good bedfellows.