Check out this pair of deleted comments from yesterday’s Mark Gardner thread.
Before…
After…
And here’s the explanation for the deletion of the 1.16pm post (and presumably also the 1.07pm post) from the thought police.
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February 6, 2010 in Uncategorized | Tags: Antisemitism, Comment is Free, Deleted Comments, Guardian, Mark Gardner | by Hawkeye
Check out this pair of deleted comments from yesterday’s Mark Gardner thread.
Before…
After…
And here’s the explanation for the deletion of the 1.16pm post (and presumably also the 1.07pm post) from the thought police.
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February 8, 2010 at 7:14 am
modernityblog
Independent Observer,
You know this as well as I do, sweeping generalisations are normally the province of bigots, the slow witted, the politically inept, the lazy and anti-Israeli types, oh not forgetting radio talk show hosts.
I am suggesting that maybe, if you wish to scratch your political itch, then there are more appropriate echo chambers for you?
Please can I recommend starting a blog, http://wordpress.com/ that will allow you to give full vent to your views without unnecessarily cluttering up these threads.
February 8, 2010 at 8:19 am
Independent Observer
Come now, Modernity, where is your intellectual curiosity?
You not only failed to examine any substantive point, you even apparently failed to seek out any of the readily-available reviews and synopses of the five solid, detailed books I referenced, about the problem of the shift of the “new anti-Semitism” from the right to the left. (Shepherd’s may be a sixth, but I cannot confirm that, having read only reviews thus far and not yet obtained the book.)
If you find reading an entire book too taxing intellectually, you might try these shorter works:
http://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/?article=987
http://www.city-journal.org/html/eon_7_23_02td.html
http://www.paulbogdanor.com/antisemitism.html
http://www.jafi.org.il/education/antisemitism/nf/left1.html
http://townhall.com/columnists/LarryElder/2006/08/10/hey,_hollywood,_what_about_liberal_anti-semitism
February 8, 2010 at 11:47 am
Punzi
It’s pretty obvious why the Guardian removed the post referencing Galloway. Galloway has already tested similar comment in the courts and won.
@Coco Afilonius
“Don’t just assume that anyone who applauds people for having a go at Muslims is naturally a friend, it doesn’t work like that.”
Sorry to cut in, but who is it that you’re assuming SarahLeah is applauding for having a go at muslims??
As I was looking for Prof Alderman’s article in the JC, wrt the cif/cw, I also saw this:
http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/26844/kalashnikov-children-groom-young-killers
This, in a northern English city. This sort of find isn’t a first either, not in the UK, other European cities or indeed, in the US. Takes, “having a go” to a whole new level or don’t you think so ?
February 8, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Serendipity
pretzelberg, “…Now this does not prove that he is not anti-Semitic, of course. His reaction should be the default position for any reasonable person..”
Yes, quite so, but its easily the default position of a low-life politician who wants Muslim votes, too, don’t you think?
Most “reasonable people” are wise to him and his antics and I wouldn’t buy a used car from him.
February 8, 2010 at 4:07 pm
Serendipity
pretzelberg, “…Now this does not prove that he is not anti-Semitic, of course. His reaction should be the default position for any reasonable person..”
Yes, quite so, but its easily the default position of a low-life politician who wants Muslim votes, too, don’t you think?
Most “reasonable people” are wise to him and his antics and I wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw him.
February 8, 2010 at 4:42 pm
modernityblog
Independent Observer,
Thank you, I have bags of intellectual curiosity.
And I would remind you that a socialist, Steve Cohen, wrote one of the earliest works on the left and anti-Semitism.
http://www.engageonline.org.uk/ressources/funny/
Over 25 years ago, but that wasn’t my disagreement with you, it was your sloppy use of language, exaggeration and you essentially argued that authoritarianism is compelling a Left-wing trait.
You will remember your original comment:
“Leftist ideology is already authoritarian-minded, whether the exact ideology is that of the Stalinism-apologist or the more velvet-gloved “political correctness”. “
I do not object to you pointing out that there is, insensitivity, ignorance or stupidity about antisemitism on the Left. That is fairly obvious from the evidence, but what I objected to, as a minor student of political history, was you inaccurate representation of the Left as being the sole authoritarians.
Independent Observer, I have no doubt in your library you will have books on the prewar situation? and you can find any number of authoritarians rumbling across Europe, a sizeable percentage were rightwing.
If you were then, so inclined in the 1970s to study Latin America you would find many authoritarians, military dictators, who were rightwing.
If you were to look for dubious dictators across the world who America found mostly agreeable in the 1980s and 1990s, you would see that they were mostly rightwing.
And even today, hunt across the Middle East and you’ll find be authoritarian regime in Saudi Arabia, rightwing and conservative, still better if you went across to Burma, you would find another rightwing authoritarian regime and so on.
That is a bit more of a balanced picture, and I’m sure if my memory were not so bad I could probably name another handful of authoritarian, conservative and right-wing regimes in the past 40 years.
Authoritarianism isn’t solely confined to the Left, although if you wanted to look at some of the worst regimes you could certainly make a case for Stalin’s Soviet Union and Mao’s China, but they are not alone.
I hope that explains what I was trying to convey.
February 8, 2010 at 4:44 pm
pretzelberg
@ Serendipity
It appears we agree.
(perhaps I phrased the “reasonable person” a bit poorly)