And don’t you have any difficulty at all with the Palestinian (and for that you may read Hamas’ and its fellow travellers’ (since CiF never tires of reminding us that the Palestinian people “democratically elected” Hamas) wish for a greater, Judenrein or Jews and Christians as dhimmis, Palestine?

It’s been said often, but I think it bears repeating – that if successive Palestinian governments had spent as much time in state building as in raising their young to hate and kill Jews, then they would have their own state by now, along with Israel’s support for it as it grew.

As it is they are so consumed with hatred, pernicious envy and the wish to destroy, and even offer up their children as instruments to this end, that I doubt they would know what to do with their own state.

Nobody here got a problem with that?

@ Fairplay

“It’s very nice to be on a Website where Jews can shmooze in public without fear of CiF antisemites.”

I see this site as a place where Likudniks can promote a Greater Israel.

You do not speak for Jews in general.

It’s very nice to be on a Website where Jews can shmooze in public without fear of CiF antisemites.

Professor Alderman and Nick Cohen would be very welcome here, but it will have to be a labour of love as CiFWatch can’t pay them, can it?

Are you of the ‘Nick Cohen’ type. I believe that he never had considered his probably Jewish ancestry until he was appalled when reading The Guardian’s interpretation of reality.

If so. Welcome.

Perhaps Nick Cohen will have noticed CIFWatch and grace them/us with an article at some time in the future.

(What I really like about Nick Cohen, apart from the resonance that I feel with his ‘take’ of any situation that he writes about, is that the denizens of CI(F) hate him just as much, if not more, than they hate Israel.)

Some of us fell in love with Israel almost by accident and it’s a lifelong thing.
We’re not indoctrinated or paid to defend Israel. Nor do we need to say that of course we criticize Israeli policies or politicians when necessary. Actually, I can’t think of the last time Israel did anything seriously wrong in the past 50 years.

Israeli society isn’t perfect, of course. I don’t know any country that is – especially in view of the difficulties and dangers Israel has faced from the very beginning.

Geoffrey Alderman, if this is your first article on CiFWatch you are most welcome on it and to it…

My own sketchy memories of Lerman as a Zionist youth leader are that he was committed to Zionism and Israel. I can’t remember him being as fanatically pro-Zionism as he now seems fanatically anti- although his leadership role in Habonim, a Zionist youth movement, will have required him to be pro-Israel.

My main beef with him is that he minimises the antisemitism of the ignorant in response to Israel’s defence of herself and indeed blames Israel and British Jews’ support of Israel for that antisemitism, and that he does this on the most anti-Israel and antisemitic British blog.

Alongside that we get his pernicious envy which, because Lerman has been deprived of the status he believes he deserves in Jewish society, he is determined to punish all British Jews for denying it to him.

Lerman lacks the insight to realise that he himself, and probably his unfortunate personality, is at least partly responsible for that, so busy is he in projecting that hatred onto the Jews he believes turned against him.

The global nature of his antipathy towards British Jews who support Israel is mirrored in his anti-Israel fanaticism. It is primitive and undifferentiated and, coming as it seems to do from the gut, is not amenable to reason.

The Guardian will provide a home for anyone who denigrates and de-legitimizes Israel. They seem to have a special penchant for Jews who do this. It gives them ‘cover’ against charges of anti Semitism.

The most helpful way to deal with such a person is to force him to reality-test his perception of himself and to substitute that with a realistic one, rather than, as CiF does, feed his overweening pride.

I would dearly love to know how such a one (who, to the best of my recollection of him was very pro-Israel during his Habonim days) could do such a 180 degree turn and end up writing as one of al-Grauniad’s Theobald-Jews. This smacks of pernicious jealousy to me – that he was deprived of status because of a mistake by him or his unfortunate personality, and sought to hammer into the ground anyone who he perceived to have caused that.

More scary still seems to be the global nature of this revenge, if revenge it is. He directs it at all pro-Israel people, particularly Jews, whom he tries to punish by minimalising the impact of the very antisemitism that he himself feeds, rather than at only the people who may have wronged him.

CiF has provided him a home for the venting of this narcissistic rage.