This is the second in a series of articles by David Solway. David Solway is a Canadian poet and essayist. He is the author of The Big Lie: On Terror, Antisemitism, and Identity, and is currently working on a sequel, Living in the Valley of Shmoon. His new book on Jewish and Israeli themes, Hear, O Israel!, has just been released by Mantua Books. This article was originally published in Frontpage Magazine on March 26, 2009.
Antisemite: The Jews are responsible for the world’s suffering.
Jew: And also the bicyclists.
Antisemite: Why the bicyclists?
Jew: Why the Jews?
Jewish joke
One of the strangest and, at first blush, inexplicable aspects of the current social and political scene, remarked upon by many writers, is the “unholy alliance” that has been forged between the proponents of Western secularism and the armies of Islam ranged against it. Various reasons have been suggested for this bizarre collaboration between ostensible foes: the inability of many public intellectuals to temper what Paul Hollander in Political Pilgrims has described as a species of “moral indignation and compassion set and guided by their ideologies and partisan commitments”; the liberal delusion of multicultural equivalencies; the shared contempt for the doctrines, practices and symbols of the Christian faith and its supposedly crusading instinct; and, as Jamie Glazov argues in his new book, United in Hate, the Left’s misprision of Western civilization and its consequent “romance with tyranny and terror.”
Making sense of the liberal-left communion with an implacable theological adversary seems nevertheless a puzzling proposition. To quote Nick Cohen’s What’s Left: How Liberals Lost Their Way, we seem to have forgotten about the belief of majority Muslims “in the literal truth of an early medieval book, the elevation of their god over free men and women, their hatred of intellectual freedom, their homophobia, their antisemitism, their supernatural conspiracy theories, their misogyny, their use of state oppression.”
Worse, we do not seem to be overly concerned that we may one day find ourselves living in a Press-1-for-English world. Although it is moot whether the liberal-left has been punk’d by Muslim window-dressing or is, in fact, fully aware of the Islamic commitment against the weal of the democratic West, there is little question that it has come to behave like the cadet branch of Islam, assuming the proper qibla line (direction of prayer).
A glaring and most disturbing feature of this growing entente is the rising swell of antisemitism in the West, particularly in Europe but increasingly on this side of the Atlantic as well. This phenomenon is especially baffling when one considers that almost everything that Islam stands for, certainly in its present embodiment, is inimical to the welfare of the liberal West, while Judaism with its emphasis on the concept of a universal moral law, the exercise of skeptical inquiry into the claims of arbitrary authority, and the importance of individual choice and judgment in taking responsibility for personal salvation would appear to be our natural confederate.
But, upon reflection, perhaps the Western tendency to come to the defence of Islam, under the sign of combatting a non-existent “Islamophobia,” while simultaneously countenancing Jew- and Israel hatred, accusing Jews in the West but not Muslims of “double loyalty,” targeting a presumably nefarious “Israel lobby” for condemnation, regarding Zionism as a form of racism and falsely castigating Israel as an “apartheid state” is not all that difficult to account for.
To begin with, there’s the census. Muslims weigh in at one and half billion people, Jews at a paltry 12 million, many of them lapsed and many of them frankly self-hating. What we are observing is a conflict between an ever bigger Goliath and an ever smaller David. But, of course, like the caricature of the proverbial dumb blonde, the world goes where the muscle is.
Then there is the fear factor. Jews do not issue fatwas, attend violent protests, scream obscenities and threats, outfit suicide bombers, hijack airliners, kidnap foreigners, launch terrorist raids and blow up buildings. This obviously puts them at a distinct disadvantage with the Western media, political classes and large segments of the general public who cringe before the menace of Muslim reprisals for perceived offences.
Allied to this faintheartedness is a corresponding element which is nothing less than admiration for and envy of a world-historical force convinced of its own righteousness and unafraid to stampede the public square. The other face of our timidity is the capacity to be impressed by the genuine passion and sincere conviction we are unable to muster in ourselves. Paralyzed in the deepest recesses of the self, we piggyback along for the ride, experiencing vigor by proxy. In a debased and timorous age, Jews cannot compete with Muslims as carriers for our repressions and undisclosed lusts.
I am reminded in this connection of Eugène Ionesco’s play Rhinoceros in which we observe the metamorphosis of an entire population, with the exception of a single refusenik, into primitive pachyderms. Having grown tired of their common humanity, people begin to feel that the calloused, dark-green armour of the rhinoceros is preferable to the pale flabbiness of their own skins and welcome the transformation, rejoicing in the group feeling of the trampling herd. What has afflicted the West today is merely a variant of galloping rhinoceritis. The refusenik Jew, like the Bérenger character in the play, has little luck persuading the multitudes to re-think their fellow-traveling mutation of sensibility.
Then we have the petroleum factor, which is so obvious as to scarcely require comment. An Arab/Muslim embargo would have a disastrous effect on Western economies. At the same time, we fail or refuse to understand that should Israel, the national incarnation of the Jew, ever decide to boycott the world rather than vice versa, our cellphones would stop ringing, our computers would shut down, and many people with serious illnesses would be deprived of their medications. (The Israeli pharmaceutical company, Teva, is the world’s foremost supplier of antibiotic drugs.) But Arabs are conspicuous in the power of their oil cartels. Israelis, like the Intel microchips, Pentium microprocessors and Google search algorithms developed in the country, are hidden inside their technology.
Yet another issue involves the spectacle of Western venality. Universities and their Middle East Studies departments, practising academics, “peace” centers, former diplomats, ex-Presidents and many other individuals and institutions are the grateful recipients of Arab largesse—mainly Saudi-Arabian, but the Emirates have ponied up as well. Even if it were the intention of some putative Jewish cabal, there simply isn’t enough Jewish money to go around to accomplish the same result, despite the universal canard of shadowy Jewish financiers secretly controlling the dispensation of the world’s fortunes. So the Muslims have the field. Ask Jimmy Carter. Ask Charles Freeman. Ask Ramsey Clark. Ask George Galloway. Ask Rashid Khalidi. Ask John Esposito. But don’t hold your breath if you’re waiting for an honest answer.
Glazov adduces still another factor to account for the “war against Jews.” Jews are guilty “because as a people, they are synonymous with liberty and the veneration of life on earth.” Thus, for “Islamists—as for leftist believers,” who personify “the impulse to destroy and perish…such a disposition is tantamount to a declaration of war.” We have, in essence, betrayed our own civilizing imperative of which Judaism, along with classical Greece, is the fount and origin.
Add these factors to the motherlode of ancient and doggedly irrational Jew-hatred that has always subtended the world’s transactions with its scattered Jewish communities, and that continues to sustain its animus against the state of Israel, and we should have no trouble making sense of what might otherwise seem an insoluble paradox. Together, they serve to explain why we collude with our antagonists and favor those who would destroy us rather than embrace and defend the very people with whom we share a common civilizational patrimony.
It is as if the existential core of our collective being has become so viscous that we no longer have identities, only itineraries. Like Paul Hollander’s “political pilgrims,” we migrate not where reason, integrity and survival might dispose, which should in all propriety be our stable and collective address, but where fear and avarice dictate. And in so doing, we bow the knee to our enemies while kneecapping our friends and allies.





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November 20, 2009 at 7:15 am
JerusalemMite
Yet another issue involves the spectacle of Western venality. Universities and their Middle East Studies departments, practising academics, “peace” centers, former diplomats, ex-Presidents and many other individuals and institutions
Yes indeed. When I read about any existing or new organisation which uses the word ‘peace’ in its title, I immediately think that it is warlike and extreme lefty without reading anymore about it.
Why is that?
November 20, 2009 at 7:51 am
JubelFoster
The petrodollar lobby enables defeated politicians like Jimmy Carter to gain a second career on the anti-Israel circuit. Carter can set up his Carter “Center” and travel the world lambasting Israel, all on the donations from the oil countries. He doesn’t have any financial worries because the donations allow him to travel and live like a king, especially the kings in the Persian Gulf. Carter never calls for an end to mistreatment of women in the oil kingdoms or for democracy there. Carter saves his firepower for attacking Israel. Being anti-Israel and blaming Jews has become very lucrative. It is no surprise that this is the life chosen by Jimmy Carter. There are little fish following him too. Political losers like Galloway, and Livingston have mastered the art and now an unaccomplished film maker named Oborne has seen the rewards for blaming the Jewish faaith for every problem under the sun.
November 20, 2009 at 11:27 am
cityca
What a fascinating article. It is so difficult to understand why entire continents appear to be willing, no anxious, to give up their existing civilisation, such as it is and go running headlong into the arms of what can best be described as a replay of the dark ages.
Its as if a mental disease has affected huge swathes of individuals while the rest of us simply lapse into apathy and await the inevitable.
That the US, UK and others are fighting in Afghanistan does at least show that there is some kind of recognition of the 3rd world war that is being fought serrepticiously against the forces of darkness and repression, so there is some hope yet.
JM
Its the same for me when I see the Democratic Republic… you know its going to be a dictatorship or worse.
JF
And Dispatches has the nerve to focus on Jews and Israel, instead of individuals like Carter et al.
November 20, 2009 at 12:04 pm
JackSpades
Great article Hawkeye!
November 20, 2009 at 12:05 pm
BillyHunt
Another cracking article from the best website in the universe.
November 20, 2009 at 12:15 pm
MITNAGED
David Solway – an excellent article and well-published Hawkeye!
The following in particular stood out for me:
“..Then there is the fear factor. Jews do not issue fatwas, attend violent protests, scream obscenities and threats, outfit suicide bombers, hijack airliners, kidnap foreigners, launch terrorist raids and blow up buildings. This obviously puts them at a distinct disadvantage with the Western media, political classes and large segments of the general public who cringe before the menace of Muslim reprisals for perceived offences..”
Very true. Western countries are, by and large, run by cowards and appeasers. We have only remember the reaction of the UK government to Lord Ahmed’s scarcely-veiled threat in his allusion to a Muslim army marching on parliament when Geert Wilders wanted Fitna to be shown to the MPs and the Lords – and yet their corresponding eagerness to give time to Islamist terrorists, albeit by web link (and there’s an odd sort of justice in the fact that that failed to materialise) – to realise that this fear factor holds the west in thrall and, if it fails to grow a backbone, will lead to its disintegration.
November 20, 2009 at 1:55 pm
peterthehungarian
Hi Pretzel the original,
This is the high time to you to learn, the web is full of psychopaths, losers, haters – to make it short with humans.
November 20, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Guardian Hates Jews
Don’t Pretzels come in all shapes and sizes?
November 20, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Meir
A great piece, if a tad overdramatic. It is a good summary of a broader “Jewish” worldview and touches a lot of personal belief.
It’s a shame no one is prepared to listen.
November 20, 2009 at 2:44 pm
peterthehungarian
This post is a wonderful display of the GWV and I’m sure it will help to Mr Lerman to understand where he stands. Or he knows this already just doesn’t give a damn?
chet380
20 Nov 2009, 6:55PM
The 300,000 English Jews form 0.5% of the total UK population and yet the influence they wield on gov’t and the media is hugely disproportionate to this tiny population. That this disproportionate influence is brought about by providing money to politicians (dare I say “bribe”) and bullying the media is what causes the average person to feel queasy about this state of affairs.
As to the issue of the Ch 4 program failing to prove a conspiracy or a “cabal”, the Ch 4 presenter conceded there was no evidence of a conspiracy in the sense of the unavailability of direct evidence of Jews sitting down and plotting to influence the gov’t and the media. However, the circumstantial evidence as presented in the program speaks for itself.
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November 20, 2009 at 4:28 pm
TomWonacott
I agree with your first comment Prezelberg……..
Excellent article, Hawkeye.
Cityca “What a fascinating article. It is so difficult to understand why entire continents appear to be willing, no anxious, to give up their existing civilisation, such as it is and go running headlong into the arms of what can best be described as a replay of the dark ages.”
Because our culture is not better than theirs – just different. We don’t want them to feel uncomfortable in a western culture so we encourage them to retain their culture and values. Besides, isn’t it the fault of the west for their failed societies because of European and American colonialism and imperialism?
November 20, 2009 at 4:32 pm
StickyMickey
What does this Solway piece have to do with watching CiF?
November 20, 2009 at 5:02 pm
AKUS
Regarding “peace centers”, correctly identified by Solway as a spreading problem for their naivety and politically correct hewing to the anti-Israel party line, the following case was a classic.
Arun Gandhi, Mohandas K Gandhi’s grandson, serving as the president of a “peace institute”at the University of Rochester, a highly respected mid-sized university. wrote a horrendously anti-Semitic article for the unmoderated Washington Post blog, “On Faith”, which attracts anti-Semites in the USA even more than the Guardian when the topic is in any way connected to Jews, Judaism, or Israel.
One might expect a Hindu to write an article about the Hindu faith on a blog titled “On Faith”. However, the world being what it is, Gandhi of course chose to write about topics about which he demonstrably knows nothing at all – Jews, Judaism, and Israel. I think it would be obvious to the meanest intelligence that having a Jew writing about the Hindu religion would be regarded as strange, but on the WP’s blog, as we also see on CiF’s “On Belief”, everyone considers themselves an expert in Judaism and Israel.
For those who follow CiF, Gandhi’s article was reminiscent of the Indian commentator on CIF, Teacup, at her worst in its ignorance, falsehoods, stereotyping, inability to comprehend that his accusations against Israel and Jews could be leveled far worse against his own culture, Hindu religion with its foul caste system, his belligerent country, and his unthinking anti-Semitism, all on the part of someone whose acquaintance with Jews, knowledge of Jewish life, and Israel’s history is minimal at best.
The article was so bad he actually wrote an apology in his efforts to save his no doubt well-paid job, and then resigned under pressure:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/25/AR2008012502802.html
Arun Gandhi Quits Peace Institute in Flap Over Blog Posting
Gandhi’s article, reflective of his views about Jews and Israel, was worrying in two distinct ways.
First, it is of concern that someone capable of writing the blog that he did should be considered worthy of heading up a “peace institue”. He is from India no less, not known for its peaceful relations with its neighbors Pakistan and China, and one might imagine that his efforts could be better spent in his own country. This was another example of naive Western liberalism run amok, with its critical faculties suspended in an excess of political correctness.
Second, it is of concern that he may in fact be representative of a growing and ignorant Indian “intelligentsia” that is swallowing the anti-Israel, anti-Semitic line that is being pumped out daily through such “peace institutes” and the English press, which India’s well-educated upper classes can easily read. The anti-Semitic virus is spreading to areas of the world where Jews are so unknown that they can be demonized in ways and to a degree we in the West are not even aware of.
That being said, there is a lesson here that perhaps can be transferred to the UK. The reason he was dismissed was because of a massive protest by e-mail and phone by alumnae of the university to the Dean, alerting him to Gandhi’s article, and threatening to withdraw financial support from the university. This may be an easier threat to carry out against a private college in the US that relies on such contributions, since possibly in the UK the universities are all government funded. nevertheless, there are probably ways to bring pressure against similar organizations and persons if the supporters of Israel, Jewish or not, are willing to make the effort to have their voices heard.
And if they do not, they should prepare for the day when they wish they had.
November 20, 2009 at 5:16 pm
cityca
Tom Wonnacott
“Because our culture is not better than theirs – just different. We don’t want them to feel uncomfortable in a western culture so we encourage them to retain their culture and values. Besides, isn’t it the fault of the west for their failed societies because of European and American colonialism and imperialism?”
I don’t claim it’s better but it’s the one I grew up with and would prefer to retain. Had I wanted to embrace medievalism, I could have moved to any one of a number of countries offering just such an opportunity.
You may be right however about colonialism being responsible for their failed societies, but why then come here and try to replicate what was wrong at home?
November 20, 2009 at 5:25 pm
AKUS
cityca – I agree
It is more than time to say that some societies and cultural norms are, simply, better or worse, and moving elsewhere and then wanting to replicate the failed society from which people come is simply wrong..
Hanging people from cranes in public squares, or whipping women for wearing pants, or teaching children that other children are apes and pigs who should be killed is not just different. Its bad, and wrong.
We seem to have no difficulty pointing out the flaws in Western culture, and trying to remedy them, and the same should be done for what is, in fact a culture and religion of extreme violence in some of its manifestations.
21 killed by a suicide bomber in Pakistan today. One paragraph at the bottom of Page 10 of the Washington Post. The same event in any Western country would fuel a media frenzy for months. That is not “different” – it is simply and utterly wrong, bad, and unacceptable.
November 20, 2009 at 6:17 pm
TomWonacott
Cityca
I apologize. I was just being sarcastic (the whole comment). To me, that’s the problem associated with multiculturalism. People need to accept the new culture where they CHOOSE to immigrate.
November 20, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Fred Grubnik
Peter Oborne and Alan Rusbridger will not accept the fact that there are people who like and admire Israel and are not doing it because they have been 1) bribed 2) threatened or 3) blackmailed. To Oborne and Rusbridger, only people who have been corrupted by sinister Jewish operatives hiding in the shadows can profess any affection or admiration for Israel.
Hence that explains the dark and foreboding music of Oborne’s programs and the dark images he displays.
Oborne could simply read the late Harold Wilson’s book “The Chariot of Israel” to understand why a legend like Harold Wilson so dearly loved Israel. When Wilson wrote the book in 1981, he had nothing to gain politically or financially from writing a book describing his lifelong affection for Israel. Oborne is not known as a reader, although Oborne has bragged about how many times he has read Walt and Mearsheimer’s elaborate conpiracy by the Jews treatise. But if Oborne bothered to read Harold Wilson’s book, he just might understand why a man of Harold Wilson’s stature could admire and adore the State of Israel. I suspect that Oborne will never expose himself to any ideas or books that clash with the primitive views that he carries with him.
Oboirne tries to give the impression that he is a tough guy, a barroom brawler. But in reality, Oborne is a guy who could not fight his way out of a paper bag.
November 20, 2009 at 7:33 pm
modernityblog
What an appalling article, it is full of sweeping generalisations, questionable characterisations and factual inaccuracies.
I have neither the time nor the energy to fisk all of it, but I’ll take one of the author’s points and hope that readers will see the further implications of this position:
David Solway wrote:
“under the sign of combatting a non-existent “Islamophobia,” “
Although the terminology is somewhat problematic and questionable, there is discrimination against Muslims in the West.
They are subject to racial attacks, and they are being harassed by the British National Party and EDL, as any one capable of searching Google would see, use the key words: English Defence League racist attacks muslims
More recently a young woman was stabbed to death in a court, her crime was offending an anti-Muslim racist.
There’s that in plenty more.
Also, you need to consider that if CiFwatch and its readers are critical of the Guardian because they deny racial attacks on Jews, then it serves no one any purpose to deny that there are physical attacks on Muslims, and that they suffer prejudice in the West. It happens.
To deny the bleeding obvious is irrational and doesn’t tally with the evidence, apart from the fact that it is inconsistent to be against one form of prejudice, but not another.
As I said I don’t have the energy to keep up this topic, I’ll leave it at that and hope people think about it a bit.
November 20, 2009 at 8:06 pm
modernityblog
Ops, typo, should read:
…then it serves no purpose to deny that there are no physical attacks on Muslims, and that they do not suffer prejudice in the West. It happens.
November 20, 2009 at 10:54 pm
JubelFoster
The article was very accurate. Anti-Semitism, aided and abetted by the Guardian’s notorious CIF, has gotten very dangerous. Holocaust denial is widespread now and there are writers at many newspapers who promote Holocaust denial. The Guardian routinely publishes this stuff and the editor says it is fine with him. Maybe he doesn’t read it too carefully as he is busy giving promotions to his daughter.
November 20, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Callie Ewing
Physical attacks on Muslims are few and far between in Europe or in the western hemisphere. Virtually all of the suicde bombers and car bombers who target Muslims are themselves Muslims. In Iraq, the local Al Queda has killed thousands of Muslims in an effort to cause chaos. In Pakistan, Al Queda murders thousands of Muslim villagers. In Afghanistan, the Taliban targets for murder Muslims who do not wish to support the Taliban or Al Queda.
There are no more than a handful of minor incidents against Muslims in Europe and none in the US. But the Guardian can’t acknowledge this because it would upset the apple cart.
November 21, 2009 at 12:41 am
AKUS
Fred Grubnik – interesting comment – I was not aware of harold Wilson as having any interest in israel one way or the other. But if you liked his book, try Martin Gilbert’s book, “Churchill and the Jews”. Many of Churchill’s best friends really were Jewish, and he was proud to say that he was a Zionist.
He was the person who really made the Balfour Declaration a reality after his trip to Palestine, where, in a meeting in Jerusalem in 1921 with Abdullah, he carved up Palestine into the Trans-Jordan for the Arabs and the cis-Jordan, as he himself said, from the Mediterranean to the Jordan, for the Jews. He was enormously impressed by the success of Jewish agriculture and development, and as someone who admired winners rather than whiners, his heart was with the Zionist enterprise.
He was adamant that as the victors of WW I the allies could and should decide the fate of the area and its populations. Not, perhaps, a popular position today, but at the time that was how things were done.
Incidentally, many of the amateur historians who fabricate their potted histories of the ME on CiF might be shocked to know that he was supported in his ideas in large part both by Lawrence of Arabia and Andullah, who felt that Jewish immigration would invigorate the area and create great economic benefit in agriculture, manufacturing, and commerce.
November 21, 2009 at 2:06 am
Fairplay
Tom Wonacott
You shouldn’t need to apologize for your sarcasm/irony, but just to be safe, it helps to use a smiley or else to write ” ( smile ) “.
CiFWatch is normally too damn serious to appreciate attempts at humour.
November 21, 2009 at 2:10 am
Fairplay
“Why the Jews?” – Why not?.
November 21, 2009 at 2:14 am
Fairplay
Sorry – typo.
I always start the day with a nice refreshing orange juice. Sometimes, grapefruit juice, and occasionally, apple juice. Juice – I love it.
November 21, 2009 at 5:09 am
Israelinurse
Modernity – that’s a very interesting and valid point.
Do you not think though that there is a noticable and worrying difference between the way the British government relates to attacks on Muslims and Jews? I was not in the UK at the time, but I have been told by various sources that after 9/11 and 7/7 there were official statements made calling for calm and restraint, and rightly saying that these awful events were not a justification for attacking Muslims or their property.
Would that we had heard similar statements in January of this year regarding Operation Cast Lead and Jews! In fact, the silence from the government was deafening and we even saw government minister Ben Bradshaw joining the attacks with his own version of the conspiracy theory.
I recently asked a Holocaust survivor friend of mine here who grew up in pre-war Germany if she thought it was valid to make a comparison between the atmosphere there at that time and that in contemporary Britain. She says not, because in pre-war Germany the violence against and persecution of Jews was government organised and executed. She feels that a more valid comparison to the present situation here is that of pre-war Poland, where the attacks against Jews came from below – from the people – whilst the government failed to act against the perpetrators.
Certainly for me, it was the British government’s silence on this issue earlier this year which caused me to arrive at far-reaching conclusions regarding the dismal future of British Jews.
November 21, 2009 at 7:01 am
Romo
Israelinurse, I think your piece above is very thought-provoking. Having studied the Holocaust, I know exactly what your survivor is saying and that is why any Jew who considers him/herself ‘Jewish’ has no future here in the UK. I can only see it getting worse. However, if I express these fears to friends who are ‘Jew-ish’, they just don’t get it! They are so assimilated, so distanced from Israel emotionally, that their Jewish antenna does not pick up the anti-Semitism. Perhaps reading these blogs, one experiences it more intently but the proliferation of anti-Israel/Semitic articles in the newspapers as well as tv programmes, compounds the realisation that we Jews in the UK are experiencing a reversion to the kind of anti-Semitism also experienced by Polish Jewry.
November 21, 2009 at 7:47 am
MindTheCrap
Romo:
“any Jew who considers him/herself ‘Jewish’ has no future here in the UK. ”
I disagree, in fact I am seriously considering moving to Britain because Channel 4 has convinced me that it is a Garden of Eden for Jews. What opportunities to control an entire nation ! I too want to manipulate the government – after all, only small amounts of cash are needed. And there is no need to worry about any opposition from a docile parliament, the apathetic media or a powerless citizenry.
Where do I join ???
November 21, 2009 at 8:47 am
MITNAGED
Cityca and TomWonacott
I think TomWonacott failed to make clear that Islam blames colonialism for the current dismal state of Arab/Muslim societies. Most of these lack the introspection to place themselves correctly on that course of events . Bad things may indeed have happened them, but they happen to many nations, who nevertheless overcome them and make good in spite of them.
It is Arab/Muslim responsibility to overcome and advance in spite of them, rather than indulge their belligerent self pity and victim mentality because of them, as well as their tendency to blame others for this failure of agency on their part.
November 21, 2009 at 9:03 am
terry malloy
Callie Ewing: In the U.S., the most recent statistics for religious hate crimes as compiled by the FBI is for the year 2007 as follows:
Religious bias
Hate crimes motivated by religious bias accounted for 1,477 offenses reported by law enforcement. A breakdown of the bias motivation of religious-biased offenses showed:
■68.4 percent were anti-Jewish.
■9.5 percent were anti-other religion.
■9.0 percent were anti-Islamic.
■4.4 percent were anti-Catholic.
■4.3 percent were anti-multiple religions, group.
■4.0 percent were anti-Protestant.
■0.4 percent were anti-Atheism/Agnosticism/etc.
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2007/incidents.htm
While all such acts are to be deplored, the anti-Islamic acts were significantly lower than the anti-Jewish acts.
November 21, 2009 at 9:16 am
pretzelberg
@ JubelFoster
Holocaust denial is widespread now and there are writers at many newspapers who promote Holocaust denial.
What are you talking about!?!? Which papers except for those published by racist extremists. Mainstream papers? I think not.
The Guardian routinely publishes this stuff
Where has The Guardian ever published an article containing Holocaust denial?
You’re making this up – why?
November 21, 2009 at 9:59 am
cityca
TomWonacott
No problem and apology accepted. I’m sorry not to have cottoned on to your intention. As Fairplay said, it all gets very serious here sometimes…….
AKUS
You and I are on the same wavelength. Indian Asians both Sikh and Hindu have emigrated all over the world and as far as I can make out, only contributed positively to their new environments, and not insisted on changing it to suit their culture. Jews exactly the same, notwithstanding Oborne’s ridiculous film.
It seems to me that only radical Islamists (and their idiotic western fellow travellers) insist on their new country of origin wherever it might be, changing to fall into place with their requirements, rather than the other way round.
Its a bizarre way of thinking and seems to denote a total lack of respect for other people’s way of life and culture, in which case, why go there?
As you have pointed out, the number of Muslims killed by other Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan alone, dwarf the numbers killed during Cast Lead (and probably the numbers killed from 1948 to today I would hazard a guess), and yet it seems not to incur any more of a censure than a sad shake of the head by anyone. I’ve not heard one supporter of the Radical Islamic project make a statement decrying the appalling loss of life due to Muslim against Muslim action, but if a Jew or Christian so much as mentions Christmas, a cry of condemnation rings out at whoever was so outrageous as to possibly offend the sensibilities of local Muslims.
This is ludicrous and I imagine most Muslims cringe when this nonsense is trotted out on their behalf at the behest of the insanely politically correct and the Radical Islamists who gee them up.
So I agree 100% that it is way past time for us to accept what has and is being foisted on us by the home grown idiots and the aggressive incomers and it’s time to say no just as Australia has. They say that its a free country and one of those freedoms is the freedom to leave if you don’t like it.
Exactly!
November 21, 2009 at 10:10 am
cityca
IsraeliNurse
Thanks for that. It will be useful to have a guide to judge when, if ever, it becomes time to get out of the UK. As I type this, I am aware how appalling that sounds, but the atmosphere at least on the internet, is very ominous.
A weak government, a worsening economy, a surge in anti-Semitic feeling, and an increase in programmes like Oborne’s further affecting general sentiment towards Jews all bode very badly. Add to that the onward march of Radical Islam, as well as the BNP, and British Jews must watch very carefully for signs that our long, safe and secure stay in the United Kingdom may be coming to an end.
November 21, 2009 at 10:22 am
modernityblog
Israelinurse,
My views on the British government are not applicable, at the moment, I would like to stick to the issue of this article and its implications:
1) That supposedly there are no attacks on Muslims in the West, which isn’t true.
2) That it is permissible to have an article which has sweeping generalisations and rather dubious comments concerning Muslims, but if the Guardian or Cif does it is wrong.
3) Such a post invalidates CiFWatch’s ability to criticise the Guardian/CiF for failing to understand racism.
4) The article seems to want to settle political scores, a rather CiF attitude, which perhaps CiFWatch should avoid?
5) If you wouldn’t accept an article littered with generalisations concerning Jews or Israel, then why be so accepting when it relates to Muslims in the West?
6) You can’t say “I oppose bigotry against Jews, I’m against prejudice towards Jews, but if all of that happens to Muslims I am not bothered”
7) Anyone with access to the Internet and look up the crime figures for racial attacks on Muslims, there’s plenty and if I have the time and energy I will post on this on my blog, in the meanwhile I would prefer that CiFWatch does a bit of self-examination in light of this dubious article, lest the chickens come home to roost.
November 21, 2009 at 10:37 am
Guardian Hates Jews
modernity
That supposedly there are no attacks on Muslims in the West
Israelinurse never said that, so I stopped reading yur post right there.
Terry gave the actual fictures, numerically backing up other posters’ points about the relative proportions. You’re apparently innumerate.
November 21, 2009 at 11:01 am
modernityblog
Well, you might then re-read the main article:
But don’t worry I’ll get around to doing a whole post on the topic on my blog
Please, “Guardian Hates Jews” instead of looking for ways to stop thinking or reading might I suggest that you exercise some sceptical inquiry, and think whether or not it is sensible to use sweeping generalisations against Muslims, in the West, but get annoyed when Guardian articles employs such a tactic against Jews?
It is not consistent or acceptable to take such an approach.
November 21, 2009 at 11:10 am
terry malloy
modernityblog- 1) Nobody has said that there are no attacks on Muslims in the West. But as I pointed out in crime stats in the U.S., incidents against Muslims, while deplorable, run significantly lower than incidents against Jews. I expect that those trends would be similar in the UK.
2) I agree that people should not hold the Guardian to high standards if they are not willing to do the same here, particularly with regard to Muslims. That said, the most oft-stated concern is with Radical Muslims.
3) I realize that you’re addressing the downbeat tone of Israelnurse’s post, but I can understand, without necessarily agreeing with, her somber mood. But her post was in direct reaction to Solway’s article about anti-Semitism. Perhaps we should have a guest article about some of the travails that Muslims encounter.
4) I don’t get a sense that Solway’s article seeks to settle political scores. I’m open to considering any portions of his article that give that impression.
5) Her only mention of Muslims was to illustrate an apparent double-standard about how the government perceives threats against religious minorities in the aftermath of events that were attributed to their co-religionists. Her sense was that there was a much greater effort to speak out against anti-Muslim prejudice in the aftermath of the 9/11 and 7/7 attacks than there was to counsel against anti-Jewish prejudice in the aftermath of Operation Cast Lead. Perhaps a more developed piece would be helpful, but nonetheless, it does give one some food for thought.
6) I think what might help was for her to say that she applauded the government’s efforts to damp down anti-Muslim hysteria in addition to decrying the relative failure of the goverment in addressing anti-Jewish prejudice in the aftermath of Operation Cast Lead. Beyond that, I don’t see any fault in her article.
7) Guardian Hates and Jews addressed this by referring to my post about FBI statistics. I suppose one could argue that those are U.S. figures, but I believe that UK statistics would not be all that different.
November 21, 2009 at 11:26 am
modernityblog
terry malloy,
Thanks for the quick reply, I’ll be brief as I don’t have much energy, but my comment to Israelinurse (who I have a LOT of time for, and always like reading her comments) is about the ARTICLE.
The POST, that’s my concern, not her comments, which you’ll notice I wrote:
“My views on the British government are not applicable, at the moment, I would like to stick to the issue of this article”
I will look at your figures later on, but you might remember that the Guardian is a British newspaper so figures relating to attacks on Muslims in Britain, might be more relevant.
And I do hope you got my reference to the BNP and the EDL?? Might be worth looking them up and working out what they are trying to do eh?
November 21, 2009 at 11:52 am
cityca
mitnaged
Completely agree. The Palestinian Arabs have made a career of being victims as well as homicidal revenge takers, egged on by their own leaders as well as the Arab League.
Now one of their number, a politician whose name I’m afraid escapes me, has declared his intention to start building and creating an infrastructure in the West Bank, regardless of the outcome of peace talks between the PA and Israel, and I applaud him.
If the Palestinian Arabs start to build a structure that copies the norm of other civilised societies, then perhaps we’ll all be getting somewhere. As it is, all we have had is the same old round of talks and violence and more talks.
November 21, 2009 at 12:30 pm
MindTheCrap
cityca:
There is a good article on that subject my David Horowitz in the Jerusalem Post:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1258624595789&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
November 21, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Guardian Hates Jews
If the Palestinian Arabs start to build a structure that copies the norm of other civilised societies
Where is the model of a civilised, democratic society with zealousy-defended rights for minorities? Certanly not in the Arab world.
November 21, 2009 at 7:55 pm
cityca
MTC
Thanks for that – Salam Fayyad is the person I was thinking of. I’m sure there’ll be skeletons in his closet just like everyone else, but if he’s getting the Palestinians thinking about constricting instead of destroying, then he can only be good news.
November 22, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Guardian Hates Jews
In addition to Solway’s excellent points, we should consider several further sources of anti-Semitism:
1. Simple odium theologicum, on two grounds:
a. Early Christianity, early Islam, and early Protestantism all turned, viciously, upon the Jews as revenge for Jewish rejection of the new theology.
b. The theology further requires Jews live in misery as “proof” of their theological error.
2. Racial hatred: Europe deemed the Jews a too-Semitic, non-European race, to be hated as the “other”.
3. Reverse racial hatred: Paradoxically, the European left and Arab world deem the Jews a white, European, insufficiently-Semitic race. Thus, Jews are “white” and inherently bad; Arabs are “brown” and inherently good.
It should not suprise us to see the Jews deemed at once too Semitic and insufficiently Semitic. After all, anti-Semites deemed the Jews at once too capitalist and too socialist.
4. Scapegoat (or “socialism of foools”): A minority is often used to allow the majority’s powerful to control the majority’s disempowered. This was one way the wealthy of the American south used anti-black racism – to re-direct poor whites towards a scapegoat. This was the way the Tsarist government used anti-Semitism. It also was (and is) the way Arab/Muslim governments use anti-Semitism.
5. Resentment: The disempowered of the majority derive comfort from status superior to the minority – whether poor American whites neverthelesss superior to blacks, or poor Arabs superior to Jews (“El yahud kalb el arab”). They are enraged by any threat to that status or by the idea a member of the despised minority might come to have power over them, whether a black policeman giving orders to a white, or a Jew dealing with an Arab from a position of power or even just of equality.
November 24, 2009 at 8:57 am
Fairplay
As a follow-up to Mr Solway’s superb analysis, may I suggest for those who haven’t seen it a reading of Mark Steyn’s brilliant essay in “Commentary” of March 2009.
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/israel-today–the-west-tomorrow-151
November 24, 2009 at 8:59 am
Fairplay
Correction : it was May 2009 – ” Israel today, the West tomorrow ”
The link seems to lead to another page.