Hot Topics at the Guardian this Week

What’s with that picture,you trying to give us nightmares??It looks like a picture that the police would put of someone who is wanted.

MindTheCrap, the problems with the article go further.

1. The author is a “useful idiot” in publishing his comments in such a profoundly anti-Semitic venue.

2. The Guardian is using the article
- to intervene in internal Jewish affairs
- to chracterise negatively ultra-orthodox who keep to themselves
- to provide a platform for anti-Semitism

3. The author is fairly ignorant if he is unaware ultra-orthodox are fobidden to touch the opposite sex (even to shake hands).

4. Its is only one of a number of articles indicating the Guardian is fundamentally hostile to Judaism itself and to any expression of Jewish identity. Here are at least 2 other examples:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/may/16/europe-jewish-community
Lerman insists Europe’s Jews must assimilate

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/15/religion.communities
Behr insists Haredim must assimilate

In my experience in gentile countries the ultra-orthodox simply wish to be left alone (unlike Muslims or even some Christian sects). It is their right to be different or to be left alone.

All the above makes clear to me that it is not just Israel the Guardian hates, but Jews generally; it will not be satsfied unless Jews renounce all distinct identity. This is “cultural cleansing” – a desire to eliminate Jews culturally if not physically.

Great piece of internet-journalism, Hawkeye.

I see that Melanie Philips has picked up on the thread as well.

Only a mindless automata product of the British left-wing-hotbed academy can accuse Melanie Philips of some general animosity towards Moslems, while she has proveמ time and again that her observations in no way attempt to denunciate any general public, but point to the dangers of radical Islam alone.

You could have spared us this picture, though :D. “Bride of Chucky” here is a little too much for the morning. Easy on the makeup, girl- the camera lense is melting!

Hi there Peter

I actually came here right now to post the same alert that – I see now – you already have.

I’ve clicked on the abuse button for every second post. It’s truly pathetic. These people will use any excuse to bash Israel.
Plus there are idiots like BeatonTheDonis who don’t mention Israel but go completely off-topic.

Hi Pretzelberg,

I read your post recommending PierreBezukhov’s comment. I find it worth to quote here:

PierreBezukhov
15 Nov 2009, 11:55AM
THe comments here are disgraceful, I thought i’d posted a light hearted comment but looking at the other I realise this wasn’t the place for it. The guardian must know that anything they put up that mentions jews with a comments section will end up like this page, it must be what they want. A nice bit of jew bashing on a sunday. Imagine if you were jewish & had never had anything to do with israel but met one of these people posting these comments. They’d be demanding you solve the problems of the middle east like even though you had nothing to do with the place. Theres no arguing with these racists, I suspect the BNP are delighted with the response. Sad, very sad.

The gorgeous picture of BellaM is, in fact, her chosen icon:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/users/bellam

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Hmmm … I remember a similar article on Mitzvah Day from a year ago – which had similar responses.

I suppose Georgina feels that if it whipped up the troops once, it can do it again.

It certainly makes the point about the anti-Semitism of the Guardian’s readers

Until now they had to delete 11 posts of 40 plus published a warning:

CommunityMod Staff
15 Nov 2009, 12:28PM
Please note, off-topic posts will be removed. This thread is about good deeds and charities people support. This is not a thread about the Israeli?Palestinian conflict. Please stick to the topic so others who want to discuss their charitable work can do so

These people really want to make us believe that they didn’t expect this?

Probably Bella doesn’t make Sunday shifts, these only for the plebs who need the afterhours supplement.

Some non-deleted posts:

notsorabid 19 recommendations
15 Nov 2009, 10:21AM
My good deed will come later in the year when I go to Jordan to make a film and employ many Palestinians who are living there having been deprived of their land by the country next door.

WhattheDormousesaid 5 recommendations
15 Nov 2009, 11:03AM
Since the diaspora has influence—————-

The quest for fair treatment and a fair settlement in Palestine and Gaza.

vercol 10 recommendations
15 Nov 2009, 11:05AM
Help the palestinians

mxcz 5 recommendations
15 Nov 2009, 11:21AM
Predictable – but appropriate: send donations to Medical Aid for Palestinians.

roachclip 7 recommendations
15 Nov 2009, 11:42AM
One very good deed Jewish people in the UK and around the world could do today, and for the rest of the year, is to publicly question the veracity of the Israeli government.

cbarr
15 Nov 2009, 11:53AM
I’d help the men, women and children in Israel’s labour camps – http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1126057.html

Could be interesting to be a Jew in the Guardian’s UK.

Well, almost all the offending posts are now also gone (but not – yet – those by cbarr andvercol).
More interestingly, ALL comments are now being premoderated – about time!
I reported each comment several times and listed them in a repeated hall of shame post.

It took the mods far too long to sort it out IMO.

I’m here to express fury – a thread about a worthwhile and honest attempt to organise community action day has to be premodded and tightly controlled. This has highlighted the divisions in our society – I am upset by this. Unusual for me to get angry but GRRRR1

Leni

@ Fairplay

As it happens ich hob gelernt Yiddish – but that’s as far as my Jewish “roots” go.
;-)

AKUS – the first time I can recall this happening – speaks volumes.

True.

I would speculate that CIFWatch is having an effect for the better in the sense that anti Semites may see it as less beckoning.

But they still have to be more balanced in their ’spread’ of articles relating to the IP conflict. Perhaps if some of the Pro Israel staff members at the Guardian made there voice heard.

What’s that you say Georgina?. Oh! There aren’t any.

Irish

This has highlighted the divisions in our society – I am upset by this.

A very British (and not Irish) understatement Leni.

This highlighted the rampant Jew hatred fueled, tolerated and supported by CIF. In this case it became so transparent that preventing further embarrassment they have been forced to premoderate first time in the history of CIF as far as I know.
It is not your society – it is the Guardian CIF.

How amazing to find the Guardian publishing an article that purports to tell its readership that Jews are doing good deeds.

I thought I was being cynical in thinking there’s more to it than that and then as if to prove my point, the vile comments of so many posters seem to show that the Guardian has put up a dummy that its racist readers can tilt at – and I can’t help but believe that the Guardian expected this reaction.

Do you think that if the Israeli government announced its intention to close down Israel and that all Jewish Israelis were to leave the country, we’d still have anti-Semitism?

Yes, so do I.

Can you lot keep pretzelberg-

he’s obviously sympathetic to your agenda and his tedious faux-impariality crap on CiF threads is such a bore.

Good deeds on Mitzvah Day……..what could be so bad about doing good deeds.Yet this innocent article managed to attract the usual nutjobs of the Guardian.The usual blow-flies who smell horse-shit.And live to post horse-shit.

My post was submitted to moderation,there was nothing there that needed moderation.

“Community standards and participating guidelines” i.e.

Pro Israeli posts will be deleted,posts that try to counter covert or overt anti semitism (think Berchmans and CO.) will be deleted.

pretzelberg

“Please do elaborate on your post directed at me.”

I was talking about you……..not to you!

“What’s your moniker on CiF?”

Not so simple pretzie-wetzie…..

How about you start guessing and if you guess correctly, I’ll confirm it. ;^)

p.s

The (somewhat cryptic) clue is in my CiFWatch moniker.

StickyMickey

“How about you start guessing …”

Typical Tory response.

There seems to be a lot of posts from these “contributors” on CiF .Anyone who posts on that dumb site,is by definition a contributor.So what’s with the Big C.

If BeautifulBurnout’s “contributions” are anything to by,I have a feeling that I know exactly what that Big C stands for.

Stickey

Your insults have been registered, digested and soon to be excreted. Open your mouth….NOW!

“Typical Tory response.”

Keep guessing pretsy-wetsy…..

Stickey

I was taught not to spare an apropriate supply for persons in need especially not on Mitzvah day.