Take a gander over into their sites history/Politics/and General forums. The membership there are right out of stormfront.

Literally. If you lurk SF or google its caches, you can find announcements on the hate-site requesting membership to come over to city data to recruit and spread their ‘truth’ (bigoted lies). You can also find that members regularly copy and paste SF threads into CD, only with slightly modified titles and removed racial slurs.

After conflict with several members, no fewer than 4 moderators and the admin named ‘markablue’ flat out stated they have no problem with racism and antisemetism on the forum, but will actively delete or ban posts which call out, attack or offer counter points to mentioned racism.

To write or endorse anti-Semitism, the Guardian need not actually say the words, “We hate Jews and want them eliminated.” It may instead act with deliberation to achieve that end.

The Guardian has for years pubished a daily drip of anti-Semitic poison above the line, including articles demanding Britain’s orthodox Jews assimilate, accusing Jews of crucifying Gibson, implying the Kennedy assassination the fault of the Jewish state, making European Jews guilty for Israel’s actions, implying Jews control the Foreign Office, demanding European Jews show no group identity nor support of Israel, insisting Israel must disappear, providing a platform for Arab orgnisations sworn to genocide of Jews, and sponsoring and promulgating a multitude of devices (such as Churchill’s) to stimulate and spread hatred of Jews.

All this, again, above the line. Does the Guardan hate Jews? Yes, without doubt. Does it want them eliminated – physically from the Mideast, culturally from Europe? Yes, without doubt.

The Guardian’s actions and editorial policy not only endorse anti-Semitism in practise but actively encourage it and have waged a relentless war of either physcal or cultural annihilation against Jews and the Jewish identity.

AKUS, I agree that CiF doesn’t itself write antisemitism, but I remember the bruhaha about Bungle’s remark that a certain comment about a Muslim was published only because the paper had a Jewish editor.

I seem to remember that the mods had more wisdom then (or La Henry had bound and gagged them), because the Bungler was utterly pasted for that with the result that, when formal complaint was made about the article, La Henry said that the posters themselves had taken him to task so she didn’t have to do so, the worm.

FooledmeOnce, good question for pretzelberg. I am waiting for his answer.

Stormfront: 1, 3, 4

CIF: 2, 5, 6 (obviously)

I think it’s relatively easy to tell them apart. But, we’ll see.

“But why doesn’t the poster tell us how many of these nasty posts are still standing?”

Why don’t you tell us who many of the commenters who posted them are still allowed on CiF? So they can post similiar comments until those are (sometimes) deleted too, after many, many, hours.

“And why all the seemingly sycophantic congrats to Hawkeye here?
This is the WWW, after all.”

That’s right. And in the WWW we can still express congrats if we feel like it without patronizing shmucks like you to disdain over it. What an absolute pointless page-filler you are.

Run along now back to CiF to continue your agenda of not actually saying anything while trying very hard to look highbrow and objective.

To me it illustrates the huge difference between the way many in Germany have tried to relate to “the Jewish problem”, as it was once known, vs the Guardian:

http://www.stolpersteine-salzburg.at/

By the way, it also deals with the euthanized and the Gypsies, which I think is a huge addition.

I don;t know if you’ll see the connection, or difference, if you prefer, that I see between this kind of project which I understand is rapidly spreading across Germany and the Guardian, but I see it very clearly.

Even when comments are deleted, the point is that the anti-Semites have themselves noticed that the Guardian is an easy target and they can get away with most anti-Semitic comments with a little care. Whether CW pints it out or not, they themselves have indicted the Guardian by their presence on the threads, many for years.

People have been banned for comments about Islam or Moslems that aren’t a fraction of the comments you see above, while those making them – and I’m guessing that about 5 are straight from CiF – seem to live charmed lives.

Heresiach – its been a while!

Checking a couple of well-known monikers mentioned above:

I’d forgotten about Exiledlondoner – but he’s still around, maybe decided like some others to stop wasting his time on the endless merry-go-round of the I/P papalagi/moeran/namokle/freedman/lerman carousel?? He and I used to have some pretty good arguments … exiled – come over here and make yourself heard!!

spectreovereurope has not decided to confine himself solely to comments worthy of stormfront – he’s just been a little quite recently.

Pretzel – say what you like – this is a much freer discussion, and the articles are much more factual. The only decent I/P articles I’ve seen recently on CiF were from Sharon and Ibish.

The rest is the usual junk used as bait for Israel bashers and anti-Semites.

And have you asked yourself why people feel that Comment is so Free that they can post such anti-Jewish racism in the first place? What is it about the enabling environment of CiF which attracts Jew-hatred like flies around sh*t?

And as for your mean-spirited “..And why all the seemingly sycophantic congrats to Hawkeye here?..

Perhaps it is Hawkeye’s idea (and it’s a good one, whoever thought it up) to point up that there is precious little difference between the extreme right and the extreme left as regards Jew-hatred?

So get used to it. It was indeed a good idea, whether Hawkeye’s or not, to run with this article. Get over yourself.

“FooledmeOnce – good point. Of course CiF endorses the antisemitism it doesn’t bother to delete”

CiF endorses antisemitism? FFS.
And all the racist anti-Arab material posted means what, then?

But why doesn’t the poster tell us how many of these nasty posts are still standing?

What’s your point?

And why all the seemingly sycophantic congrats to Hawkeye here?
This is the WWW, after all.

Comparing the material – left standing – on CiF with that on StormFront is frankly laughable.

You cannot be serious.

p.s. Did ANYBODY here ever correct that poster who claimed that CiF threads being shut down overnight GMT constituted a “conniving” plan to exclude US Jews?

Isn’t there a danger that by exposing and discussing these CiF monsters so often we may become just a bit blasé about them and even start missing them a little when they’ve gone ( along with CiF ) ?

The shame of it all is that the Guardian has ruined its reputation, sold its soul and lent itself to such infamy. CiF has turned into a nest of vipers ever willing to accuse the Jews (as in that notorious poem by T.S. Eliot) of being underneath it all. Of course, Eliot was expressing a well-known English middle-class antisemitism that was common 100 years ago. Today, this virus is carried and propagated largely by Arabs and their useful idiots of whom The Guardian is a leading example.