What happens when you deprive the Guardianistas for more than two days of an I/P thread from ‘Comment is Free’ to vent their Jew-hatred?
You get a toxic mix of antisemitism that is made up of the following ingredients:
You start off by pouring in a generous shot of Israel demonization.
MilesSmiles
18 Oct 09, 3:54pm
I think Israel’s strategy is quite clear. Ratchet up the use of force until Palestinians simply leave. An intifada would suit them nicely, it would just be an opportunity for another Gaza. After all, nothing really happened over Lebanon either. It’s sort of “we’ll keep going as long as we can get away with it”.
As usual the Americans are a sheep in clown’s clothing when it comes to the Middle East.
Then you throw in some false accusations of ethnic cleansing.
mc98
18 Oct 09, 4:02pm
The extreme zionists now seem to have things all their own way as they continue with the cleansing plan. Since they never come under any pressure to change their ways and agree to a way forward things will just continue downhill towards yet more conflict. Very sad really but unless real pressure is applied to the hardliners in Israel and the US the Middle East is going to get nowhere.
Add an argument for the “one state solution”.
david119
18 Oct 09, 4:30pm
An Administration that voted against the Goldstone report is not going to have the guts to stand up to the most “liberal” Zionist let alone the current Israeli regime.
Without any effective pressure from America, the Zionists will make excuses and steal more and more land.
We have passed the point where a viable two state settlement is possible.
One person one vote in a Unified State and a Palestinian right of return is the only long term solution.
Shake it up with spurious allegations of racism, genocide and more ethnic cleansing.
18 Oct 09, 4:44pm
The only way to avoid another Israeli Jew massacre of the Palestinians is for Pres. Obama to use the leverage the US has over Israel to resolve the conflict between Jews and Palestinians. Afterall, the US created this conflict by keeping Israel in existence with US aid, weapons, support, and veto protection, and turning a blind eye to Israel’s apartheid policies, racism, land stealing, genocide and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians. Now, it is incumbent upon the US to be an honest broker for once and resolve the conflict it created. It won’t be easy but anything less should require top US and Israeli officials to stand before the Hague for charges of Warcrimes and Crimes against Humanity.
Add another shot of Israel demonization.
zatar
18 Oct 09, 6:33pm
As usual some of the players, like US and Israel, in the “roadmap to nowhere” are successfully keeping up the status quo that enables Israel to continue it’s butchery and landgrabbing under the cover of phony democracy. There will never any peace because Israel simply don’t want peace. I wonder why we don’t hear about sanctions and violent measures that West readily uses against some countries, ever mentioned in case of violent Israel.
Mix in the denial of a right to a Jewish state.
lovemymod
18 Oct 09, 8:20pm
In 1966, there were no Jews living on the West Bank. By 2009, there are close to 500,000 in all occupied territories.
occupied territories? Israel is an occupied territory.
Add a splash more demonization.
Garak
18 Oct 09, 8:54pm
The US can’t be refusing to deal with Hamas because it supports terrorism. Israel was born of terror. Israeli historians have made this abundantly clear. Hamas can only dream of having as much blood on its hands as do Zionists like Ben Gurion, Begin, Shamir, and Sharon.
The US needs to deal as directly with Hamas as it does with terrorists in the Isareli gov’t.
And finally garnish with some Jewish conspiracy theory.
zendancer
18 Oct 09, 9:04pm
@ bootboys
You forgot the Chief Rabbi of New York/New York Banking Houses (Goldman Sachs) who are the most powerful/ political group in America.All Presidential candidates must come to an accomodation with the above “Lobby,” or feel the heat of their opponent receiving a huge inflow of contribution dollars ,for their campaign.Guess what they want for their support? Up the coast in Boston the Irish Lobby do the same thing ,only their power is waning rapidly.The Kennedys have lost their way.
The best thing is that this is meant to be a big secret,no one talks about their influence but,votes in the U.N. are a clear sign that the US President has to pay “tribute” to them to keep his place.
And if you want to savor these individual ingredients, all but one of them is available for consumption on the Tisdall thread at the time of writing.
Stormfront eat drink your heart out!






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October 19, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Guardian Hates Jews
Hmmmm. The rat appears rabid.
October 19, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Ariadne
Thank you! I’ve tried it with as black or with a coloured background but it doesn’t work. The bold is not so great for me. I’ll try to find the HTML that creates space on a line. It’s short and simple but I’ve forgotten it.
October 19, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Ariadne
Sorry, intrusive “with” there…
October 19, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Ariadne
October 19, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Ariadne
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October 19, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Ariadne
I hope now to stop messing up the thread. This is good comment from Epidermoid on Tisdall:
October 19, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Fairplay
Banning pests isn’t a sign of intolerance. He belongs on CiF where he’s a joke and nobody takes him seriously, or else he can play with his chums.
Being kind to trollers, we might end up alienating CW regulars.
It’s a pain to have to keep scrolling past his inane messages.
Maybe we should take a vote on it.
October 19, 2009 at 4:26 pm
peter1
The Tisdall article is another example of how the Guardian just loves to ignore what it doesn’t like, consequently turning itself into a joke.
One would imagine that a Left-wing rag would try and maintain some credibility like in the old days when at least there was some virtue in it.
Tisdall outright erases Obama’s call to the Arab world to open doors to Israel and begin diplomatic overtures, perhaps because of the Saudi’s response, which was go shove it.
As we all know, that is the crux of the problem and not the cities, towns and kibbutzim they love to refer to as settlements.
When the Arabs are prepared to welcome the Jewish State of Israel into the neighborhood, a peace track can followed.
October 19, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Ariadne
This thread became even weirder than I made it!
A profound final sentence, peter1.
October 19, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Guardian Hates Jews
Ariadne, can you read your citation of epidermoid, above? If so, what markup (html) did you use?
October 19, 2009 at 6:03 pm
margie
For some reason there seems to be consensus that if Israel really wanted it, there would be a Palestinian state. It is part of their tacit condescension to the Palestinians that they see them as passive will-less beings. As Peter says, when they are prepared to accept us as a Jewish state there will be peace.
October 19, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Ariadne
Guardian Hates Jews
Yes. It’s pretty scrappy. I used the “pre” tag. That is needed on every line with one “/pre” at the end of the paragraph or block of text only. I’m very rusty on HTML. After “pre” you can choose the space where your text starts. I also don’t know what font is used here.
October 19, 2009 at 6:13 pm
margie
Sorry I really shouldn’t write comments so late at night. My meaning was that the Palestinians are those who are rejecting the peace process, not Israel.
Petra today gave the url for the offer that Olmert made to Abbas and that was rejected. How can we make such offers if we do not want peace?
October 19, 2009 at 6:14 pm
margie
Here is Petra’s comment
“here are the exact details of Olmert’s offer from just a year ago:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1100313.html
There are a lot of people, not just in Israel, also e.g. in Washington, who wonder if there is any offer that would ever be good enough for the Palestinians to accept.”
October 19, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Guardian Hates Jews
Ariadne, this is a test of pre-formatting (the pre markup).
October 19, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Ariadne
Guardian Hates Jews
I’m trying to replicate part of Hawkeye’s article:
October 19, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Ariadne
Big fail!
October 19, 2009 at 6:45 pm
Guardian Hates Jews
Blockquote bold:
Simple italics (no blockquote):
zendancer
18 Oct 09, 9:04pm
@ bootboys
You forgot the Chief Rabbi of New York/New York Banking Houses (Goldman Sachs) who are the most powerful/ political group in America.All Presidential candidates must come to an accomodation with the above “Lobby,” or feel the heat of their opponent receiving a huge inflow of contribution dollars ,for their campaign.Guess what they want for their support? Up the coast in Boston the Irish Lobby do the same thing ,only their power is waning rapidly.The Kennedys have lost their way.
The best thing is that this is meant to be a big secret,no one talks about their influence but,votes in the U.N. are a clear sign that the US President has to pay “tribute” to them to keep his place.
October 19, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Guardian Hates Jews
Ariadne, the easiest seems to be either simple italics, or blockquote bold. Can you read either or both of the above samples?
October 19, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Ariadne
Good, thank you. Italics + pre seems to be the way to go. I suppose the style sheet overrides most efforts.
October 19, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Ariadne
Guardian Hates Jews
Sorry, I crossed with your last post. Even the bold block quote is not too comfortable. The italics is positively restful by comparison!
Thank you!
October 19, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Guardian Hates Jews
Using “font”:
October 19, 2009 at 7:01 pm
Guardian Hates Jews
Back to the thread topic.
What are the similarities and differences between CiF as a platform for encouraging anti-Semitism, and historical Jew-baiting rags such as the Libre parole, the Dearborn Independent, or the Stürmer?
October 20, 2009 at 12:12 am
The anti Discriminator
Fairplay
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## Being kind to trollers, (??? ) Maybe we should take a vote on it.##
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I vote to allow all posts so long as they are decent .
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Guardian Hates Jews
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##..differences between CiF .. or the Stürmer?##
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One difference is readers of the Guardian would have been first to challenge Hitler. Here is to the left … up against the wall even before the Jews.( except the Jews who were leftists of course)
TAD
October 20, 2009 at 12:40 am
JerusalemMite
Sergio Bramsole – On balance, our combined efforts have already panned out. I see fewer threads on CiF that badmouth Israel from dawn to dusk.
Yes. I agree.
Perhaps some of their coterie of House Jews is somewhat alert to this sites popularity and the ‘pasting’ that they get on CIFWatch outside of the protective of the laughingly called ‘CI(F) moderation’.
October 20, 2009 at 10:15 am
Cliche watch
JerusalemMite
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## coterie of House Jews ##
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” coterie ” is wrong. The collective term is “avenue ” of House Jews!
CW
October 20, 2009 at 10:23 am
margie
Please, don’t feed the tiresome troll.
October 20, 2009 at 10:32 am
Guardian Hates Jews
If a rat squeaks and nobody cares, did it squeak?
October 20, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Fearty watch
margie
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##Please, don’t feed the tiresome troll.##
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Do you not feel a little yucky that you and GHJs are soul buddies…..he is ..on this thread and todays.. using rat jokes.. does this not unsettle you?
Be honest..it is late.. there is a knock at the door …it is GHJs … would you answer it?
FW
TASD
Guardian Hates Jews
If a rat squeaks and nobody cares, did it squeak?
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