This is a guest post from Dov of dayvidsaffer.com
In an article that would not be out of place were it published by the Institute for Historical Review, the Guardian enlists the services of Abe Hayeem to further its campaign to de-legitimise Israel. Hayeem has all the right credentials for the job, he’s Jewish, hates Israel, is involved with the Palestine Solidarity Campaign and is a founder of Architects and Planners for Justice in Palestine, so in Guardian speak he’s the ideal type of Jew.
In his article “The dark side of Tel Aviv” Hayeem paints a picture of a city that was built on colonialism and conquest, a city that ethnically cleansed itself of its Arab residents, a city that quite frankly bares no resemblance to the one that gave shelter to the thousands of Jews who fled Jaffa for a quieter life during the days of the British mandate.
There are huge problems with his article, from the very first sentence, so much so that I feel compelled, as the child of a Tel Avivi, to correct his opening statement. “Tel Aviv”, he claims is , “a city said to date from 1909″ is typical Guardian speak. His intonation here is to challenge the very history of the area. It is not “said”, it was. Whilst his revisionist history might claim otherwise, Tel Aviv WAS founded in 1909, by a number of Jews who had a year earlier bought 12 acres of dunes north east of Jaffa, with the aim of building a garden suburb on the outskirts of the pre-biblical city.
Hayeem then goes on to claim:
While there is much on the surface that makes Tel Aviv enticing, this picture must be not be allowed to mask the dark underlying history of ethnic cleansing and land expropriation on which Tel Aviv was built. . .
In reality neither ethnic cleansing nor land expropriation took place. The fledgling city continued to grow on bought land until 1917 when the Turks expelled all the Jews from the area. But as his audience is the Guardian, no need to let facts get in the way of a good story.
And telling stories is something Hayeem is very good at. A few years ago he set up an organisation called Architects and Planners for Justice in Palestine. The Independent ran a glowing piece on this organisation that held its first meeting in the office of Lord Richard Rogers, who, apparently gave a ten minute welcome before excusing himself from the meeting. The group’s beliefs are laid out on their website are defined as:
We share the international condemnation of the continuing annexation and fragmentation of Palestinian land through the expansion of illegal settlements and outposts and the construction of the Separation Wall in defiance of international law.
We hold all design and construction professionals involved in projects that appropriate land and natural resources from Palestinian territory to be complicit in social, political and economic oppression, and to be in violation of their professional ethics.
The only problem here is that Hayeem and his merry band of followers see all of Israel as Palestinian land – to his credit however Lord Rogers has distanced himself from the group for various reasons that Adloyada goes into in some depth. The APJP on its home page talks about Palestine and the Occupied Territories, and as the maps on their home page show us they claim that most of Palestine is now occupied. Amazingly, although unsurprisingly, this group of planners fail to mention that prior to 1917 ‘historic’ Palestine also included the land mass known as today as Jordan, for had they actually included it, their whole basic claim of colonialism would be diminished.
But I digress, which is actually easy to do when discussing Hayeem! To prove his credentials, in the article Hayeem challenges the real historiography of the city whilst laying baseless and unfounded claims, which are only verified by groups that have been involved with trying to re-write the history of the region. He quotes organisations in his article as Israeli whilst omitting to inform the ever so uninformed Guardian readers that, for example, Zochrot, solely espouse a Palestinian narrative, so much so that the url uses the term nakba.
But, as Ami Issaroff has noted, re-writing the narrative on Tel Aviv is all the rage right now after Naomi Klein, Danny Glover, Eve Ensler and a few other Hollywood luvvies pushed for a boycott of the Toronto film festival because festival organisers were going to show a number of Israeli films at the City to City event, which this year was celebrating Tel Aviv’s centennial. And after all, if Hollywood luvvies are in on the act why should the Guardian not join in with the fun?






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October 14, 2009 at 12:13 am
The anti discriminator
Hawkeye
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##Hayeem has the right credentials for the job, he’s Jewish, hates Israel##
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Oh dear what a start…the ” h” word so soon in an article however I’ll press on .
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##In reality neither ethnic cleansing nor land expropriation took place##
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I have a theory which I tried out on CIF yesterday,,it was osmosis. People liked it there…what do you think?
Here is to the displaced people of Jaffa.. may they be allowed back soon.
TAD
October 14, 2009 at 12:19 am
Hawkeye
As others have said before don’t feed the trolls.
October 14, 2009 at 12:24 am
Hawkeye
The Guardian really sunk to a new low with the publication of the Hayeem article. Their hatred of the Jewish state knows no bounds.
Here’s an example of a comment deleted yesterday from the Hayeem thread:
pete999
13 Oct 09, 4:10pm
Huzzah!
More evil Israelis!
More heroic Palestinians!
Many pages of the same people saying the same things!
More ad revenue for the Guardian!
What a worthwhile and valuable contribution to the ongoing debate.
October 14, 2009 at 12:25 am
JubelFoster
The Guardian had to look far and wide to find this Hayeem character. They call him an architect. Has anyone seen anything that this character has designed? If you want to be an “expert” at the Guardian the key is to hang around a sandwich shop and utter incmprehensible statements. Sooner or later the Guardian will find you.
October 14, 2009 at 12:30 am
Hawkeye
On the subject of self-hating Jews there is an interesting article on Neve Gordon in Frontpagemag
http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/13/collaborators-in-the-campus-war-against-israel-and-the-jews-neve-gordon-by-john-perazzo/
October 14, 2009 at 12:47 am
JerusalemMite
Jubel Foster – ‘The Guardian had to look far and wide to find this Hayeem character. They call him an architect. Has anyone seen anything that this character has designed? If you want to be an “expert” at the Guardian the key is to hang around a sandwich shop and utter incmprehensible statements. Sooner or later the Guardian will find you.’
Yes.
Ci(f) is really scraping the barrel.
‘Our Sethele’ hasn’t had anything ‘published’ recently. Perhaps he’s on a diet and doesn’t need the money.
Or perhaps, someone bought a copy of his book.
October 14, 2009 at 12:54 am
Hawkeye
JerusalemMite
Our Sethele will be back. Rest assured.
The question though will the Guardian be stupid enough to publish another article from Antony Lerman after what happened with his two previous articles. Maybe Hayeem is Lerman’s replacement?
October 14, 2009 at 1:18 am
JaneG
Not a day goes by without some Israeli academic or spokesperson for an anti Israel Israeli organisation rewritng history and inventing their own demonisation of their homeland. Go to http://www.Israel-Academia-Monitor.com for documented evidence of this.
There is not another country in the world which would tolerate such behaviour.
Why don’t we call these people what they really are, “TRAITORS”. And the same goes for those naive 18 year olds who refuse to serve in the IDF, but not just content with making a so-called conscientious stand, they then travel to the US and South Africa to peddle their lies and demonisation of their homeland.
They will not be such conscientious objectors when they expect their state to see them through university and provide services and protection in the years ahead. I for one hope they will be ostracised and exposed when they start their studies or their chosen careers.
October 14, 2009 at 1:27 am
JaneG
In my view there was not much “credit” to him when Lord Rogers distanced himself from the anti Israel Architects and Planners for Justice for the Palestinians group.
There was the little matter of him being likely to lose the state contract awarded him on September 29 to design a $1.7 billion project to almost double the size of Manhattan’s Jacob Javits Convention Centre that could have been his prime motivation!!!
October 14, 2009 at 2:28 am
a56yhi8
Thank you Dov. Hayeem is a renegade Jew who has been disowned by his family.
He deserves an entry in your ‘contributers’ page.
Keep up the great work CiFWatch!
October 14, 2009 at 2:31 am
a56yhi8
http://wordfromjerusalem.com/?p=1818
Isi Leibler: “Marginalize the Renegades”
October 14, 2009 at 2:58 am
zamalek
The irony that Abe Hayeem is an Iraqi Jew whose community was ‘ethnically cleansed’ from Iraq is not lost on one or two commenters on the Guardian thread.
Tom Wonacott:
“Having noted that you are a Jew from Iraq which numbered in 1948 about 120,000, would you care to discuss why the Arabs in Iraq (and everywhere else in the Middle East) chose to persecute, harass and evict the Jews? Today, fewer than 100 Jews remain in Iraq. What had the Jews in Iraq done to deserve being run off from their homes, and their possessions confiscated? Did any Arab take the time to ask these Jews even if they were Zionist?
“I know that this is off topic to a “peace activist” interested in the “occupation”, but you are the one discussing the “dark secrets” of Tel Aviv. What about the dark secrets of the Arab world? How about your own family? Certainly, your family history would be interesting on this subject. The Arabs held all Jews at “gunpoint” to discourage the creation of a Jewish state as the quotes below so obviously show. Maybe as a non Zionist(?) Jew, you feel that the Arabs had every right to blame all Jews for the creation of Israel?:”
Sadly, a reply from Abe Hayeem shows a woeful ignorance of why his own family were forced out of Iraq, regurgitating the Arab and leftist propaganda that the Zionists set off bombs to scare the Jews into leaving, and quoting Rachel Shabi’s pernicious book that Jews and Arabs lived in perfect harmony before those nasty Zionists came and spoiled it all by forcing the Mizrahim to live under the yoke of the Ashkenazi Zionist elites.
Both myths have been debunked here:
http://jewishrefugees.blogspot.com/2006/04/iraqi-muslims-threw-1951-synagogue.html
http://jewishrefugees.blogspot.com/2009/05/common-culture-did-not-save-jews-of.html
October 14, 2009 at 3:04 am
Fairplay
Those Guardian idiots who’ve never been to Tel Aviv have only to go on YouTube and find the fabulous videos there of sand, sea, sun and sexy women galore.
While it may be a credit to Israeli democracy to allow these renegade Jews/Israelis to publicize their anti-Zionist cause, they should all be ostracized and boycotted until they leave Israel. Once in the Diaspora, they can do as they please, and by all means write articles for the Grauniad or the Indy. Or better still, if they love the Palestinians more than they love their own people, why don’t they go live in Ramallah? Oh yeah, they’d probably have to convert to Islam too…
October 14, 2009 at 3:06 am
Ariadne
What an excellent way to dispose of the Guardian fantasia.
October 14, 2009 at 3:58 am
sababa
zamalek, yeah, TW’s comment was good, but Hayeem responded: ’twas the eeeeeeevil Zionists who were behind it all — I mean, what have the Arabs ever done on their own since those Zionists appeared on the pages of history???? Nothing, nada, klum!!! They are mere puppets, and the Zionists pull their strings… Sounds racist? Nope, that’s the right lefty way to look at the Middle East!
Then Hayeem goes on to recommend Rachel Shabby’s book that apparently “proves” that Rachele sees the world just the same way as Abe…
But there were many good comments on this thread, especially georgeindia and sydk running with “the dark side” of New York etc. — pretty much every city on the planet!
October 14, 2009 at 4:07 am
GaryO
Abe is someone who’d blame Jews for the Holocaust.
October 14, 2009 at 4:48 am
SilverTrees
He would not be the first to argue that they had it coming. The Guardian’s house Jew, Tony Lerman, blames the very existence of Israel for antisemitism but he’s in good company over at “the other place.”
I used to find it amazing that the silly idiots there would persist in clanging on about half-truths but I have just finished Robin Shepherd’s “A State Beyond the Pale: Europe’s Problem with Israel”.
Shepherd describes European spinelessness in the face of implied violence from rabidly anti-Israel Muslim countries and within their own populations – the UK government’s craven cowardice and hypocrisy in the face of threats from the likes of Lord Ahmed, for example, whose veiled threat of Muslim violence if Geert Wilders were to be allowed into Britain had them all wetting their pants with fright – and this goes a long way to explaining how the fear of peaceful confrontation, and early, allows such idiocy to take root and flourish.
Alongside it is the sort of active discrimination against Palestinians of the kind we find in the Guardian and CiF who consistently fail to hold them to the standards of civilised behaviour to which they would hold any other country.
Imagine if you explained away your child’s delinquent behaviour by bleating that he couldn’t help it, that it is was all someone else’s fault and they should be taken action against and people actually believed you. Not only would you have reared a complete thug, but you would have deprived yourself of any efficacy to curb that child’s delinquent behaviour as it escalates.
October 14, 2009 at 4:48 am
JerusalemMite
JaneG – ‘Not a day goes by without some Israeli academic or spokesperson for an anti Israel Israeli organisation rewritng history and inventing their own demonisation of their homeland. ‘
Yes indeed.
CI(F) must have scouts out sifting through sewage to find these ….. people.
It would be so nice to transpose them to an Arab democracy somewhere when they could be fully enlightened as to the best that Islam and Sharia has to offer.
Sadly, that somewhere doesn’t exist yet and perhaps never will.
October 14, 2009 at 5:21 am
cityca
A UK airline, easyjet is soon to start a campaign in the UK to bring passengers to Tel Aviv, stressing what a great city it is. They will be using a red London bus to promote their new route. Personally, I am fascinated by Tel Aviv and I spend days walking round admiring and photographing the original architecture, much of which is slowly being refurbished and brought back to its original condition.
Whenever I go to Israel, I check with my bank about using my credit and charge cards to ensure they work ‘abroad’. On one particular trip, the conversation with the UK bank went something like this.
Girl at bank “Ok, so where are you travelling to?”
Me. “Israel.’
GAB “Oh yeah. What country’s that in then?”
Me (in amazement). “Er, its a country in the Middle East.”
GAB. “Oh yeah. Been there before?”
Me. “Yep. Many times.”
GAB. “What’s it like then?”
Me. “Amazing. Great beaches. Fantastic food, all night clubbing and loads of bars, and the weather’s brilliant.”
GAB. “Thanks. I’ll tell the girls – maybe we’ll book there next.”
On that trip, I bumped into a Scots football (soccer) fan who’d been to an away match in Tel Aviv. When I asked how he was enjoying Israel he was very enthusiastic. “F—ing brilliant pal.”
I wish the easyjet promotion lots of luck and hope the Abe Hayeems of this world disappear up their own ‘principles’.
The link above to Isi Lieibler http://go2.wordpress.com/?id=725X1342&site=commentisfreewatch.wordpress.com&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwordfromjerusalem.com%2F%3Fp%3D1818 (thanks a56yhi8) is worth reading. Lets indeed marginalise these shits (sorry renegades).
October 14, 2009 at 5:32 am
peterthehungarian
There are a positive side of the crap written by Hayeem and published by CIF. We can learn from the mouth of an other ex-Israeli ex-pat Yael Oren Kahn that Israel carpet-bombed Gaza during operation Cast Lead. I would support a web site where these posts could be translated into Hebrew and published for the benefit of the Israeli public. Most of them naively believe that the good old European blood libel is some kind of ancient history. All Israelis must be aware that this dirt is not the speciality of neo-Nazi websites but tolerated and proudly supported on so called leftist forums like CIF too.
sababa
True, supporting his allegations Hayeem quotes Rachel Shabi but heuseed much more serious and reliable sources too. He writes:
Read the Israeli historians Avi Shlaim, Tom Segev, Benny Morris, Ilan Pappe and some of the links on the websites :www.apjp.org, or jfjfp.org, icahd,org and btselem.org and of course “The Electronic Intifada”
Of course!
October 14, 2009 at 6:10 am
FoolMeOnce
A few points:
Hayeem’s (Haim with an oriental favor?)’ choice of terminology is extraordinary:
“The new Tel Aviv was established by white European Jews, and thus, as Gabriel Ash says the centennial ‘is legitimizing colonialism through the commemoration of the arrival of white Europeans to the orient’.”
Colonialism? By definition that means there is a BASE country colonizing some other country. Whenever I see this word used in the I/P context I immediately know the writer has no clue over the most basic of issues.
Now, are white Europeans not allowed into Israel? Immigration from Arab countries continued the same time European Jews came in. Is Abe Hayeem suggesting they had no right to immigrate there? That seems rather racist to me.
Another thing I don’t buy is the whole business about bulldozing an urban area which housed 70,000 people. That’s a LOT of Bulldozing.
How many modern Bulldozers were even available then? There is ample historic evidence- documents, photographs, etc’ to show there were no more than a few very small villages in the area that is today Tel Aviv, each comprising of no more than a few dozen houses at the most.
And Jaffa? Jaffa is still there- alive and kicking, and predominantly, rightfully, Arab.
So I find a lot of the statistics employed here highly dubious.
October 14, 2009 at 7:01 am
MindThe Crap
The following comment was posted on the thread:
archithecks
14 Oct 09, 10:27am (about 1 hour ago)
Thank you Mr Hayeem.
A clear and enlightened historical perspective is shown in this essay to help our clearer understanding of the Israeli propaganda machine.
If you click on his name and look at his previous comments, you see that he is an architect named Malcolm Hecks. A quick check shows that Mr Hecks is affiliated with Abe Hayeem in an organisation called “Architects and Planners for Justice in Palestine”, which he conveniently forgets to mention.
http://apjp.org/action/
October 14, 2009 at 7:03 am
MindThe Crap
and I forgot to thank Mr Hecks for giving us a “clearer understanding of the anti-Israeli propaganda machine”.
October 14, 2009 at 7:13 am
Ariadne
A deletion!
Revelation
14 Oct 09, 9:53am
They seem to be discussing this article at CIFWatch with great insight and no deletions that I have detected.
I particularly liked ‘Then Hayeem goes on to recommend Rachel Shabbys book that apparently proves that Rachele sees the world just the same way as Abe…
But there were many good comments on this thread, especially georgeindia and sydk running with the dark side of New York etc. — pretty much every city on the planet!’
What a hoot.
October 14, 2009 at 7:25 am
mozir
It is truly fascinating how some-one so mediocre and underachiever in a professional field would choose politics to make himself known. Would we EVER hear name of this “architect” if not for his Guardian endorsed deranged political views?
October 14, 2009 at 8:24 am
margie
Abe did not do much research in preparing for this article. His comment about historic preservation in Jaffa suburbs is confused: he assumes that it is the building company Amidar that imposes fines for changing the outward appearance of historic houses and not the municipality.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Preservation-of-Buildings-in-Tel-Aviv&id=2575339
He also insists on the authenticity of Jaffa instead of the Hebrew Yafo, whereas as far as I can ascertain Yaffa is the Arabic name.
His rather obvious and naive theme throughout is Jewish bad: Arabic good.
October 14, 2009 at 8:48 am
JubelFoster
The Guardian has to reach for the bottom of the barrel when they find Israeli “experts” to condemn Israel. Most are like this Hayeem character. They are bitter and unsuccessful so they seek attention the only way they know how. They have learned that if they grovel and beg for forgiveness the Guardian will put their names in the paper. It is pathetic but characters like this Hayeem wll pay the price.
October 14, 2009 at 8:54 am
SilverTrees
Margie – “Abe did not do much research in preparing for this article….”
Let’s face it, Margie, he wasn’t required to do any. None of them are. All that was required of him (and I shouldn’t be surprised if there is now a crib sheet for would-be anti-Israel authors from the “dark side’s” editors so as to make their contributions absolutely reflective of the GWV) was to go into print with anything he could find, however erroneous or misguided, by which he could bash Israel!
This lack of in-depth research and often blatant misrepresentation (as per Tony Lerman’s deliberate distortion of the arguments in Robin Shepherd’s book) is a CiF hallmark. The coven gets its rubber gloves on and sifts through the sewers of anti-Israel hatred for what it thinks the Guardianistas want to feed on.
And the coven knows perfectly well that it is doing that – indeed it sets out to do it – which has to be one reason for its refusing Robin Shepherd the right to reply to Lerman’s malicious nonsense.
October 14, 2009 at 9:11 am
Hawkeye
Point of No Return has picked up the dark side of Abe Hayeem also – http://jewishrefugees.blogspot.com/
October 14, 2009 at 9:21 am
Serendipity
FooledmeOnce – I wonder whether Hayeem is a graduate of the Seth Freedman school of cod journalism?
His lack of attention to detail and obvious failure to grasp that he should have engaged imore in research before he put fingers to keyboard makes me wonder whether he might even be Freedman’s alter ego.
But no…. this lacks something – there is no formulaic scene setting, no attention to what passes for detail about the “feelings” of the people he is writing about (provided of course he can use them to heap scorn on Israel).
Nah. It’s not Freedman.
Interesting, though that there is one similarity between them – Freedman was a “City trader” of no great repute and Hayeem is a architect whom no-one has ever heard of until now.
Could it be that CiF opening a half-way house for failed Jewish/Zionist career people who would sell their souls to get back on the ladder of infamy? After all, infamy gives more to such people than their being ignored.
October 14, 2009 at 10:02 am
FoolMeOnce
Serendipity
Nope, you’re right- he’s no Seth Freedman.
But the hallmarks of left-wing formula writing are all there- White guilt, “colonizers” versus the indigenous population, a city built on dispossession of someone else (otherwise where is the drama?) hiding a dark terrible history. Just chalk-full of leftwing pulpy goodness.
As I remarked on yesterdays’ thread, Abe Hayeem’s bio states he has also contributed to “Red Pepper” magazine (as did our old friend, Tony Lerman)
Red Pepper is a socialist magazine which has come in support of Castro, Chavez, and other “anti-imperialist” regimes in the world, as long as those regimes satisfy a childlike “rebellion” against something powerful.
It seems increasingly evident that they share a similar world view to the Guardian’s- an automatic, shallow, childish ant-western anti-Israel stance, which sells newspapers mainly to art students with a lot of facial hair and Che Guevara shirts. (pardon my stereotypes, and with no disrespect to arts students
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Plus, as you mentioned- a great boost to one’s architecture career!
October 14, 2009 at 10:19 am
JerusalemMite
Plus, as you mentioned- a great boost to one’s architecture career!
I wonder about that.
I imagine that Tony Lerman is probably Persona Non Grata at events that he use to participate in.
I don’t see anyone deciding to employ Hayeem over somebody else because he is anti Israel. There are probably plenty of Muslim architects for Muslims in the UK and the Loony Left are not usually persons of means when it comes to building large structures.
This is just a Loony Lefty who has been caught in CI(F)’s trawl net of droppings who has that added feature that he is also Jewish.
October 14, 2009 at 10:31 am
margie
This no-research, crib-sheet, no conscience style of journalism argues ultimate contempt for their target audience whom they expect to know nothing and care less, except about their thematic obsession: blackening the name of Israel.
October 14, 2009 at 10:32 am
The anti discriminator
Hawkwind
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##don’t feed the trolls.##
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You mean dont feed yourselves to the trolls ..heaven forbid you could answer a point.
##The Guardian really sunk to a new low . Their hatred of the Jewish state knows no bounds. ##
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The ” h ” word. This is discriminatory…would would a fellow being be motivated by hate ? Are you? If you people seriously want to be taken seriously you must up your game .
TAD
October 14, 2009 at 10:38 am
margie
Please, don’t feed the troll
October 14, 2009 at 10:40 am
The anti discriminator
SilverTrees
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##sifts through the sewers of anti-Israel hatred ##
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The ” h ” word again . Please refer to my above post.
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a56yhi8
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##Keep up the great work CiFWatch##
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Here is to CIFwatch…good at spotting some discrimination.
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TAD
October 14, 2009 at 11:03 am
dov
The anti discriminator – Oh dear what a start…the ” h” word so soon in an article however I’ll press on
Thanks, pleased you managed to read the article.
Hayeem spews hatred for Israel in all his CIF posts. Just telling it like it is.
Doncha just HATE it when people do that!
October 14, 2009 at 11:31 am
The anti discriminator
GaryO
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##Abe is someone who’d blame Jews for the Holocaust.##
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I can see why you post here..even Ha aretz would delete that. I can see also that CIFwatch isnt worried legally..good for them..they will have resources for legal help maybe ..or indeed they may be the help themselves..either way this is a disgusting slur.
How are you Gary?? …I miss you on CIF ..who could forget ” the cricket coach was murdered by Islam” …wonderful. You take care.
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SilverTrees
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## The Guardian’s house Jew, Tony Lerman, ##.
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No single cliche left unsaid…heres to CIFwatch.
TAD
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dov
##Hayeem spews hatred for Israel in all his CIF posts. Just telling it like it is.##
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Those of us trying to improve the level of argument on CIFwatch such as my good self ..think the use of the word “hate” marks a dive into stupid typifications of people.
I asked Hawkwind above ..is he motivated by hate? No answer ..a safe move as he normally gets his butt shreaded when he engages ..so instead he calls “troll alert”…Im not blaming him..its what I would do if my arguments were wobbly as well. You take care.
TAD
October 14, 2009 at 11:43 am
The anti discriminator
Hawkwind
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## . Their hatred of the Jewish state knows no bounds. ##
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## On the subject of self-hating Jews ##
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As I mentioned above the overuse of the “h” word or the self ” h ” word
is not getting better. I repeat ..are you motivated by hate????..if you are not…. why would anyone else be?
No to discrimination on CIFwatch
TAD
October 14, 2009 at 11:51 am
TomWonacott
Thanks Zamalek and Sabala
I’m not sure where the Guardian finds anti Israel authors who call themselves “human rights activist”, but Hayeem is clearly not a human rights activist.
“…..Hayeem couldn’t care less about the ethnic cleansing of Jews from ‘Arab’ countries and the destruction of an entire civilisation,…”
I think in the case of this author, you are entire correct, Zamalek.
October 14, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Serendipity
Dov, shalom
With all respect
Please don’t feed the troll! Don’t engage with it at any level – ignore it.
October 14, 2009 at 12:47 pm
The anti discriminator
TomWonacott
## “…..Hayeem couldn’t care less about the ethnic cleansing of Jews from ‘Arab’ countries ##
I always think the term ” ethnic cleansing ” is more about scoring points than trying to establish what happened ..I have heard there were financial incentives and maybe some Jews could see that with the huge influx, the entire area would destablise and battle lines would be drawn.
However the most important reason not to use the term is in case of “Tu quoque, “.
Take care.
TAD
October 14, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Fred Grubnik
All anyone has to do to disprove Abe Hayeem’s drivel is to look at the photos of Tel Aviv as it appeared in 1910-1920. It was nothing but sand dunes. The photos are available in Abba Eban’s book “My People, The Story of The Jews” and in countless other sources. Abba Eban was educated at Cambridge University and was the debate champion at Cambridge so it will be hard for Hayeem, Lerman and Freedman to denounce him as a provincial Eastern European Jew with a holocaust obsession. Hayeem, Lerman and Freedman always contrast themselves with other Jews, who they see as tribalistic, obsessed with persecution, and worst of all of Eastern European background. To Hayeem, Lerman and Freedman, being a Jew from an Eastern European background signifies being uncouth, unsophisticated and so uncosmopolitan. For Hayeem, Freedman and Lerman, shedding themselves of their Jewish skin is the highest desire of their lives. That is what makes the three of them such useful dupes for the Guardian.
Hayeem is not a historian. He is unaccomplished architect. I can find nothing on a web search to indicate any grand buildings he has designed. In order to gain a small measure of fame, Hayeem willingly assumes the role as the Jew who will stand up to the Jews.
His pseudo history lesson is so easily disproved that it is child’s play to do so. Hayeem’s desperate attempt for fame and publicity, coupled with his identity crisis over his Jewish heritage makes for a witches brew and that is why he can be found in the Guardian,
October 14, 2009 at 12:54 pm
peterthehungarian
There is a new Hermine/LaRit style personality on CIF posting under the pen-name No2genocide and signs some of them as Yael Kahn. I expect from the Guardian editors to commission an article from this lady – she is even better than Hayeem in discovering sensational new aspects of the GWV. Unfortunately her brave exposure of the carpet-bombing of Gaza by the IAF has been deleted, but she must be a real hard-worker, in no time she succeeded to present a new pearl of her CIF approved wisdom:
How can Tel Aviv be celebrated when it is implicated, in so many ways including hosting the Israeli military HQ and many other bodies linked to the military, in imposing the CURRENT siege of Gaza??
Tel-Aviv is worse than Sodom and Gomorrah!!!
October 14, 2009 at 1:56 pm
MITNAGED
Margie, you are right that such “authors” hold their target audience in contempt and the Guardianistas haven’t the smarts to realise this.
The writers do so simply for effect – as is evidenced by the usually very poor quality of the background research.
Much of what their supporters write is the equivalent of rumination – burblings aloud, and they don’t seem to notice or care whether anyone is listening to them or not. The Guardianistas often haven’t read the articles but use them as an opportunity to rant and burble. They have next to no idea of how they are perceived by others and care even less.
Psychologically all this can be evidence of blocked or stunted emotional and cognitive development. I’d say most of these are probably developmentally, emotionally and cognitively stuck between ages three and four, when a child is just becoming able to express itself but lacks the social skill to realise when it should speak aloud what it is thinking or when it should keep that to itself.
October 14, 2009 at 1:57 pm
The anti discriminator
Fred Grubnik
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## For Hayeem, Freedman and Lerman, shedding themselves of their Jewish skin is the highest desire of their lives.##
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Here is to the wonderful Jewish people who do not need to attack others with irrational allegations. Its OK ..you folk win ..you have out weirded even me!
I will leave you to keep up the debate …they hate us..the Guadian hates us ..everybody hates us …no idea whY!
TAD
October 14, 2009 at 2:13 pm
ByeBye
October 14, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Jubilation1
Mitnaged I believe that Hayeem’s audience deliberately ignores the truth.
I see that the thread has closed with no prior announcement that it is for the night.
I told #2genocidal Yael several times that Gaza is not under siege and eventually in desperation I gave an example of a true siege: that of Jerusalem in 1948. She is unwilling or unable to learn and understand. It should not be difficult for someone of limited intelligence and ability to use a dictionary and find out the correct definitions. There is a whole range of information that she similarly ignores.
Perhaps she is being groomed to be the new SF?
October 14, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Jubilation1
Come to think of it: neither Moeran nor Papalagi the papagallo were there so perhaps #2 Yael the Genocidal is destined to be a combination of the two of them. It might save a lot of bandwidth to be told in the same comment that the Jenin Massacre was certified by Ilan Pappe and that we are all liars.
October 14, 2009 at 2:37 pm
MITNAGED
Jubilation, you are right that it does but only because it couldn’t cope with the truth, which would cause it too much cognitive dissonance:
Imagine believing in an unrefined, primitive “gut” way as most of the Guardianistas do, that Israel is the worst evil to befall the world, as are the Jews who support her. Imagine then that you are presented with verifiable evidence that one aspect of such a belief is so untrue and off-the-wall as to be borderline crazy. You would then have two choices:
1) To accept that because it has been proven to you (which would be the mature thing to do) or
2) To ignore the verifiable evidence against what you believe because you have invested a lot of your credibility in arguing in favour of it, and consequently entrench further and deeper into your crazy views.
Guardianistas do the latter because not to do so would mean that the whole precarious house of cards of their belief system about evil Israel would topple and, worse, who knows what else would fall to bits alongside it?