In a continuing series of articles defending Ahmadinejad’s regime, the Guardian rolled out the antisemitic stooge of the Islamic Republic of Iran, George Galloway, to argue that its time to end the Bush-era bellicosity against the Islamic Republic.
As has become a regular feature now on I/P threads, the Guardian’s moderators issued its “off-topic” warning, albeit in a more friendlier tone.
CommunityMod
03 Oct 09, 2:43am
OFF-TOPIC WARNING
Please restrict comments to the issues raised in the article.
Thanks
ComMod
But don’t let the friendliness deceive you. Over 25% of the comments were deleted (hat tip Ariadne) including a comment from one of the only pro-Israel Guardian contributors, PetraMB. And the number of deletions would be even higher if it included those comments which were deleted without a trace!
So lets take a closer look at what prompted the “off-topic” warning in the middle of the thread.
Lets start off with NapoleonKaramazov, one of the first victims who went “off-topic” with the following:
NapoleonKaramazov
02 Oct 09, 10:14pm
George, I used to have some respect for you, but now I don’t. I’ve grown older. We don’t need your silly sixth form ideology. (Although I do agree with you about Afghanistan).
-Stop posturing and attend to the needs of your constituents. Attend parliament more often.
-I’m not a big fan of Israeli policies but deliberatly making analogies with apartheid, racism and Nazis is disturbing. Especially if you share the stage with fringe Islamic nuts.
Frankly, I think that Bush era neocon ideology was bad, but I also think Iran is not something to be supported. It is after all a Theocracy. Amazing the transformation you made from secular Marxism to defend corrupt Theocracies.
Remember the last time we heard about Iranian government reps in Switzerland. That whole holocaust denial thing that prompted boycotts and walkouts…?
Shortly afterwards we have a whole series of Peter Parker’s comments deleted without a trace. Here are a couple of examples (apologies for the formatting):
PeterParker
02 Oct 09, 10:57pm
The hawks are circling
You don’t need to remind us who has stated that he wants to wipe another country of the face of the earth/off the page of time.
On full parade was Britain’s post-empire arrogance, which treats a sophisticated state as an errant child in need of a good slap from an authoritarian parent.
What arrogance was that?
The pressure for a more aggressive policy, not least from Israel and its supporters, towards Iran and others has not gone away.
When a world leader wants to wipe another country off the face of the earth, and he his developing technology, you can hardly blame its neighbours pushing for an aggressive policy towards Iran. Appeasement and ignorance did nothing in the 1930s.
What the hawks oppose is Iran playing any major role in the region
Quite a few of its neighbours (including the Arab neighbours) share this view as well.
They now risk the same outcome in Afghanistan. The US top brass are pushing for large new deployments into a country which has been the graveyard of armies
I see what you mean. We should give up and hand over the country to the fascist Taliban.
Talking peace with Iran while pursuing a hopeless war in another of its neighbours is a policy for chaos.
Talking peace? I haven’t seen much indication Ahmedinijad wants to talk peace.
Live long…
PeterParker
02 Oct 09, 11:27pm
couchtripper
02 Oct 09, 10:58pm (24 minutes ago)Reading this stuff it makes me wonder whether the general public deserve the vote if they support their nations in such chaos.
Funny that. I often whether the public who support terrorists organisations around the world deserve the vote.
But that wouldn’t go down very well with RESPECT. They’d be voted out.
Live long…
And here is NARCO who tried in vain to explain to CommieMod, sorry I mean ComMod ,what is causing all these “off topic” comments. Of course, Commode doesn’t like being told what the problem is so NARCO’s comment got flushed down the toilet (sorry just can’t help the toilet humor).
NARCO
03 Oct 09, 5:00am
CommunityMod
03 Oct 09, 2:43am (about 2 hours ago)
Staff OFF-TOPIC WARNING
Please restrict comments to the issues raised in the article.</
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I empathize with you and don’t envy your job.
The problem here as I see it is multi-pronged as follows;1-Mr. Galloway , the author of the article, has a somewhat colorful background that stretches from the British Parliament to being a spokesperson for the Palestinians, to having his own show on the Islamic Republic propaganda site, PressTV.
This (C.V.) alone is confusing enough for regular folk like me.
2-The discussion tends to become further off the mark when the same individual comes out of nowhere and starts accusing people (whom he calls Hawks ) for having poor intentions towards this newly opened dialogue with the Islamic Republic.
Mr. Galloway is seen as a God by some of his (less informed ) fans, whom I am sure are having a field day here and pressing the “abuse button” repeatedly on all posts that don’t please them. (hence the evident wreck of a discussion forum herein).
Mr. Galloway also seems to have found yet another opportunity to cloud the real issue here, which is a dialogue with Iran, promised and already delivered by Obama administration .
There are no “Hawks” circling this newly opened domain, other than a few crows that fly around in Mr. Galloway head, and it seems that he is sharing the experience with his followers also afflicted with the same condition.
Please consider letting everyone have a good time, as it is impossible to remain focused, when it comes to Mr. Galloway.
Thanks and my best regards
NARCO
NARCO is obviously new to this and not familiar with the Guardian’s new talk policy and the Guardian World View.
And never ever make the mistake of accusing CiF of censoring comments, as did Stephen Hero, because Herr Mod in true Orwellian fashion will just delete the baseless accusation.
StephenHero
03 Oct 09, 2:53pm
nettletonwrote
The number of blocked comments indicate the degree of hatred George Galloway’s valid comments arouse.Could just as well read; “the number of valid comments being blocked indicate the degree of hypocrisy and censorship practiced by CIF”
MartynEurope Your description of the word “racism” is pretty accurate, I reckon. How about running it by yourself before decrying a critic of a brutal regime or medieval religious practices as racist
And finally never ever commit the ultimate sin of asking what possesses the Guardian to allow Galloway to spew his hate-filled garbage.
mike65ie
02 Oct 09, 11:09pm
Serious question for a moderator/editor
HOW DOES THIS STUFF GET COMMISSIONED?
So just in case you are wondering what is “on-topic”, take a look at this one from Revround (hat tip again to Ariadne) which advocates invading Israel to solve the Iran and North Korea nuclear problem. Just think a nuclear and Jew-free world all in one go.
Revround 03 Oct 09, 1:29am
As revealed by satirical magazine salon de Canard and confirmed by Ariva (the French nuclear industry) Tricastin (uranium processing) is 40% controlled by and 10% owned by Tehran.
Tricastin supplies 25% of the worlds processed uranium.No one is going to get me to believe the “top” politicians did not know this.
Regarding nuclear energy it has always been a by product of the nuclear weapons industry and with so much sunny desert why has not Iran invested in solar energy?
Regarding rogue nuclear states perhaps if Israel were invaded and illegal weapons of mass destruction were FOUND that would send a very real and very clear message to both Iran and North Korea.
Nuclear energy is a dirty filthy lazy design solution.
And the military industrial complex thinks firing depleted uranium shells is a safe form of waste disposal.So all you people who vote Labour and Conservative I hope you are happy about being conscripted (your children too!). With President Blair leading the whole of Europe to war it looks like a busy time ahead.
So let me pose this simple question to Georgina, Matt and Brian – and again I know you are reading this with more embarassment after your rejection of Robin Shepherd’s request to reply to Lerman’s defamatory statements on CiF yesterday – if Comment is Free is supposed to live up to its name (otherwise why would you call it that), what’s your explanation for the deletions and why was Revround’s comment not deleted?
The evidence against the monster that you have created continues to mount…



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October 6, 2009 at 4:16 am
JerusalemMite
Posts like this mean that CI(F) is out in the open now.
It is being exposed as a heavily biased and bigoted forum where it will use any means to protect its fairy like presentation of the GWV.
It will find it very difficult to justify it’s so called ‘moderation policy’ when confronted with this list of actual posts that were deleted.
Long live CIFWatch.
October 6, 2009 at 6:12 am
Margie
Comment is free only means we don’t pay for it in money
October 6, 2009 at 6:22 am
Fairplay
There are no free lunches in real life. Someone somewhere always ends up paying for it…
October 6, 2009 at 11:30 am
PeterParker
Just thought I’d tell you folks that it looks like I’ve been barred from Cif.
My profile has been removed, and I can’t post messages.
I was pre-modded on a few occasions during my time on CiF, but obviously I made the cardinal sin of responding in a contrary fashion to Mr. Galloway. I didn’t realise that it is a rule that when Galloway publishes an article, you had to agree with every point he made. I presumed that, erm, comment was free. LOL.
I emailed the folk at CiF several times to get reasons why, but they are ignoring me. Surprise, surprise.
I also made the mistake of not following the line of Ber****** and Hal****84, disagreeing with their racism and pointing out the errors of their ways. I realize now that these pair (along with a few others) are the “teacher’s pets” of the CiF mods, and that they are above criticsm.
Anyway, I might go back to the trenches under a different name.
Live long and prosper.
October 6, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Augie
“….the Guardian rolled out the antisemitic stooge of the Islamic Republic of Iran, George Galloway,…”
You mean he is now an Iranian stooge after being a Soviet stooge and then a Saddam Hussein stooge.
Hey this is what George does best. He has no higher ambition in life than to be the stooge of Jew haters.
At least he is consistent. Let’s hear it for stoogery.
October 6, 2009 at 1:30 pm
cityca
Napoleon, Peter Parker and Narco – great posts. Gorgeous George has some very iffy friends. He is hard to pin down except that he seems to relish cosying up to some of the worlds monsters and he is regularly under suspicion for being naughty with funds that belong to others.
Then again, he made a complete fool of himself on celebrity Big Brother when he donned a cat outfit and acted as such.
Strange man, strange views, strange friends. An enigma and one that hates Israel (or says he does to curry favour with his friends). Does he hate Jews? Suspect probably yes – can’t tell. He does seem to love money and as an apologist for those self same monsters, I imagine he’s paid very well.
October 6, 2009 at 1:40 pm
GuardianIsEvil
Why is Galloway walking free? He provided material support to the terrorists of Hamas and belongs in prison.
October 6, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Jonny Moses
What a fantastic site you have created here. I heard about it yesterday through Robin Shepherd’s blog. At last, some transparency to expose the fascistic machinations of those self-righteous bigots at the guardian. Don’t they just love to hide behind that facade of progressive liberalism and fair play. You have to be delusional or lobotomised to take those wolves in sheep’s clothing at face value. As for Galloway – a first class demagogue. Indeed, the Lord Haw Haw of our times, but don’t quote me on that, I didn’t say it first!
October 6, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Sergio Bramsole
To Jonny Moses,
Top notch stuff and many thanks for your support.
October 6, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Ariadne
October 7, 2009 at 1:44 am
JerusalemMite
Ariadne – loved it.
Soon he will be wearing the Taleban headress and doing the Haj.
I always liked this one.
George Galloway at his best
Watch the video and then read the comments.
Unadulterated, it exposes the madness that he is.
November 6, 2009 at 3:19 pm
AlistairSnipcuk
galloway really gets hosed on this one!
enjoy!