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		<title>By: Lenny</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With over 25 years of Real Estate and Construction experience, Leonard Kantor provides you with integrity and the most outstanding realty services in the Virginia, Maryland, and Washington D.C. areas.<br />
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		<title>By: Ariadne</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ariadne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a graceful hello, Arthru!

Welcome!

Qu&#039;est-ce qu&#039;un gracieux bonjour, Arthru!

Bienvenue!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a graceful hello, Arthru!</p>
<p>Welcome!</p>
<p>Qu&#8217;est-ce qu&#8217;un gracieux bonjour, Arthru!</p>
<p>Bienvenue!</p>
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		<title>By: lumanulc5</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lumanulc5]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Splendide après-midi  à tous les lecteurs  de ce phorum  ,          
          
Premièrement, donnez-moi l&#039;opportunité  de vous montrer  mon appréciation  pour chacune des  super  infos que j&#039;ai trouvées sur cet formidable site web .          
          
Je ne suis pas sure  d&#039;être au bon section  mais je n&#039;en ai pas vu  de meilleur.          
          
Je réside  à Hull, canada .   J&#039;ai 30 ans et j&#039;élève 4 très gentils  enfants qui sont tous âgés entre neuf  ou  10 ans (1 est adoptée ).  J&#039;aime bien   beaucoup les animaux et je tempte  de leur donner  les fournitures qui leur rendent la vie plus festive .          
          
Merci d&#039;avance pour toutes les superbes  discussions dans le futur  et je vous remercie surtout  de votre compassion  pour mon français moins qu&#039;idéal : ma langue de naissance  est le mandarin  et j&#039;essaie d&#039;éviter les erreurs  mais c&#039;est très difficile!          
          
Au plaisir!          
          
Arthru]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Splendide après-midi  à tous les lecteurs  de ce phorum  ,          </p>
<p>Premièrement, donnez-moi l&#8217;opportunité  de vous montrer  mon appréciation  pour chacune des  super  infos que j&#8217;ai trouvées sur cet formidable site web .          </p>
<p>Je ne suis pas sure  d&#8217;être au bon section  mais je n&#8217;en ai pas vu  de meilleur.          </p>
<p>Je réside  à Hull, canada .   J&#8217;ai 30 ans et j&#8217;élève 4 très gentils  enfants qui sont tous âgés entre neuf  ou  10 ans (1 est adoptée ).  J&#8217;aime bien   beaucoup les animaux et je tempte  de leur donner  les fournitures qui leur rendent la vie plus festive .          </p>
<p>Merci d&#8217;avance pour toutes les superbes  discussions dans le futur  et je vous remercie surtout  de votre compassion  pour mon français moins qu&#8217;idéal : ma langue de naissance  est le mandarin  et j&#8217;essaie d&#8217;éviter les erreurs  mais c&#8217;est très difficile!          </p>
<p>Au plaisir!          </p>
<p>Arthru</p>
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		<title>By: pretzelberg</title>
		<link>http://cifwatch.com/2009/10/01/biased-anti-jewish-moderation-in-action-on-the-hirsch-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-2474</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pretzelberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Biased Anti-Jewish Moderation in Action on the Hirsch Thread&quot;

You must be crazy. You have absolutely no evidence of such a thing. And isn&#039;t it strange how you make no mention of the frequent deletion of pro-Palestinian posts for similarly unclear reasons? What about the frequent examples of anti-Palestinian and/or Muslim prejudice left up on the thread?
This highly selective &quot;review&quot; of CiF threads is meaningless, because you are assessing them from the outset with the purpose of finding evidence to support your claims.

But even crazier is the following:

The charmingly monikered Guardian Hates Jews claims that the Guardian&#039;s policy of shutting down threads overnight (in the UK) is effectively &quot;denying participation to one the world’s largest Jewish communities – that in the USA&quot;, that the Guardian has &quot;contrived&quot; to close the threads to this aim and is &quot;censoring the USA’s 5 million Jews and other American supporters of Israel.&quot;

Sorry, but that really is insane stuff. I see there is a lot of general agreement above re. CiF - but surely you can&#039;t all be telling me your fears about the Guardian go this far?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Biased Anti-Jewish Moderation in Action on the Hirsch Thread&#8221;</p>
<p>You must be crazy. You have absolutely no evidence of such a thing. And isn&#8217;t it strange how you make no mention of the frequent deletion of pro-Palestinian posts for similarly unclear reasons? What about the frequent examples of anti-Palestinian and/or Muslim prejudice left up on the thread?<br />
This highly selective &#8220;review&#8221; of CiF threads is meaningless, because you are assessing them from the outset with the purpose of finding evidence to support your claims.</p>
<p>But even crazier is the following:</p>
<p>The charmingly monikered Guardian Hates Jews claims that the Guardian&#8217;s policy of shutting down threads overnight (in the UK) is effectively &#8220;denying participation to one the world’s largest Jewish communities – that in the USA&#8221;, that the Guardian has &#8220;contrived&#8221; to close the threads to this aim and is &#8220;censoring the USA’s 5 million Jews and other American supporters of Israel.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry, but that really is insane stuff. I see there is a lot of general agreement above re. CiF &#8211; but surely you can&#8217;t all be telling me your fears about the Guardian go this far?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://cifwatch.com/2009/10/01/biased-anti-jewish-moderation-in-action-on-the-hirsch-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-2271</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Silver Tree

If that padlock symbol&#039;s arrow turns green and you click the black menu (downward) arrow on its right hand side, it should show that &#039;Automtically block&#039; has been chosen and hence that you can read the Guardian without accepting its cookies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silver Tree</p>
<p>If that padlock symbol&#8217;s arrow turns green and you click the black menu (downward) arrow on its right hand side, it should show that &#8216;Automtically block&#8217; has been chosen and hence that you can read the Guardian without accepting its cookies.</p>
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		<title>By: Mita</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mita]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[zkharya  I think yoú are right about more complaints meaning faster deletions with one caveat: it depends on who complains and who they are complaining about.

As for the financial value of policy: it might depend on whether you have backers who agree or disagree with your policy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zkharya  I think yoú are right about more complaints meaning faster deletions with one caveat: it depends on who complains and who they are complaining about.</p>
<p>As for the financial value of policy: it might depend on whether you have backers who agree or disagree with your policy.</p>
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		<title>By: FibularSarcosis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FibularSarcosis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guardian hates jews.

&lt;i&gt;The female portion of the Guardian staff is certainly working against its own interests in ignoring or supporting Ilsamic regimes which oppress women.&lt;/i&gt;

The priorities of the extreme lefty cabal Guardian Management are first and foremost to denigrate anything aligned with the USA. And Israel is certainly aligned with the USA.

Such is the sickness of the extreme LEFT.

I must say that I have to suspect that the extreme left has insinuated itself into the media and the Labor party is such a way that they are heard far out of proportion to their actual numbers. That was the way that Trotyskyites would control groups in Russia pre 1990.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guardian hates jews.</p>
<p><i>The female portion of the Guardian staff is certainly working against its own interests in ignoring or supporting Ilsamic regimes which oppress women.</i></p>
<p>The priorities of the extreme lefty cabal Guardian Management are first and foremost to denigrate anything aligned with the USA. And Israel is certainly aligned with the USA.</p>
<p>Such is the sickness of the extreme LEFT.</p>
<p>I must say that I have to suspect that the extreme left has insinuated itself into the media and the Labor party is such a way that they are heard far out of proportion to their actual numbers. That was the way that Trotyskyites would control groups in Russia pre 1990.</p>
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		<title>By: zkharya</title>
		<link>http://cifwatch.com/2009/10/01/biased-anti-jewish-moderation-in-action-on-the-hirsch-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-2227</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zkharya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 00:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suggest complaining. From now on. If there is case to make, complain. It&#039;s a numbers game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest complaining. From now on. If there is case to make, complain. It&#8217;s a numbers game.</p>
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		<title>By: zkharya</title>
		<link>http://cifwatch.com/2009/10/01/biased-anti-jewish-moderation-in-action-on-the-hirsch-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-2226</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zkharya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 00:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just want to say, my thesis that complaints mean deletion is not so far fetched: look at the recommendation system? Antisemites/anti-Zionists/Israel haters will always outnumber Jews and/or Israelis. So they will recommend their own more often. If they complain, that will entail more deletions in their favour.

It&#039;s a numbers game, as they have always known. You can always kill the Jews with numbers, in the end.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to say, my thesis that complaints mean deletion is not so far fetched: look at the recommendation system? Antisemites/anti-Zionists/Israel haters will always outnumber Jews and/or Israelis. So they will recommend their own more often. If they complain, that will entail more deletions in their favour.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a numbers game, as they have always known. You can always kill the Jews with numbers, in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Guardian Hates Jews</title>
		<link>http://cifwatch.com/2009/10/01/biased-anti-jewish-moderation-in-action-on-the-hirsch-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-2224</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guardian Hates Jews]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sababa, not so amazing. More than one country (in both Christian and Muslim worlds) has decimated its business class in expelling Jews. Germany decimated its scientists in WW2 by chasing out Jewish scientific expertise, and it diverted resources from the war effort to deport Jews.

The female portion of the Guardian staff is certainly working against its own interests in ignoring or supporting Ilsamic regimes which oppress women.

Many leftists Jews work against their own financial and &quot;Zionist&quot; interests in supporting the American Democratic party; Pdhoretz has just made a publication on the issue.

In sum, working against one&#039;s own interests for emotional or ideological reasons is commonplace - and the Guardian is above all ideological.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sababa, not so amazing. More than one country (in both Christian and Muslim worlds) has decimated its business class in expelling Jews. Germany decimated its scientists in WW2 by chasing out Jewish scientific expertise, and it diverted resources from the war effort to deport Jews.</p>
<p>The female portion of the Guardian staff is certainly working against its own interests in ignoring or supporting Ilsamic regimes which oppress women.</p>
<p>Many leftists Jews work against their own financial and &#8220;Zionist&#8221; interests in supporting the American Democratic party; Pdhoretz has just made a publication on the issue.</p>
<p>In sum, working against one&#8217;s own interests for emotional or ideological reasons is commonplace &#8211; and the Guardian is above all ideological.</p>
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		<title>By: sababa</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sababa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[GuardianHatesJews, so you mean they are so ideologically committed that they&#039;re willing to take losses for what they think is right -- or rather, that should probably be: left?

If that is so, this would be really amazing. But then the argument that I&#039;ve seen here repeatedly, namely that they want to make money by reliably providing an anti-Israel line, wouldn&#039;t be true. 
But maybe, as so often in life, it&#039;s a mix: some of those who set the line think it&#039;s the &quot;left&quot; thing to do; others think (mistakenly) it&#039;s also good for business.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GuardianHatesJews, so you mean they are so ideologically committed that they&#8217;re willing to take losses for what they think is right &#8212; or rather, that should probably be: left?</p>
<p>If that is so, this would be really amazing. But then the argument that I&#8217;ve seen here repeatedly, namely that they want to make money by reliably providing an anti-Israel line, wouldn&#8217;t be true.<br />
But maybe, as so often in life, it&#8217;s a mix: some of those who set the line think it&#8217;s the &#8220;left&#8221; thing to do; others think (mistakenly) it&#8217;s also good for business.</p>
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		<title>By: SilverTrees</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SilverTrees]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John, thanks for these very basic (and therefore equally welcome) instructions.   Will try them out and let you know how I get on...

OK, have tried this out. Got into Google and clicked on safety button as you advised.   When the mouse is on the safety button I get &quot;No items are being blocked on this page....&quot;

The icon is yellow as you said it would be, so what does the message mean?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, thanks for these very basic (and therefore equally welcome) instructions.   Will try them out and let you know how I get on&#8230;</p>
<p>OK, have tried this out. Got into Google and clicked on safety button as you advised.   When the mouse is on the safety button I get &#8220;No items are being blocked on this page&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>The icon is yellow as you said it would be, so what does the message mean?</p>
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		<title>By: Guardian Hates Jews</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guardian Hates Jews]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sababa, you miss the point that the G does not always do what is in its interest. For example: &quot;But it’s in no way in their interest to close the threads for debate.&quot;

It&#039;s not in the G&#039;s interest to so bias its articles anti-israeli and to so bias CiF that it becomes a laughingstock and spawns a site (such as this) dedicated to exposing the G&#039;s bad faith and anti-Semitism. 

In other words, in the case of the Guardian, both ideology and anti-Semitism may trump its &quot;self-interest&quot;.

We well know that most anti-Semitism runs counter to self-interest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sababa, you miss the point that the G does not always do what is in its interest. For example: &#8220;But it’s in no way in their interest to close the threads for debate.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not in the G&#8217;s interest to so bias its articles anti-israeli and to so bias CiF that it becomes a laughingstock and spawns a site (such as this) dedicated to exposing the G&#8217;s bad faith and anti-Semitism. </p>
<p>In other words, in the case of the Guardian, both ideology and anti-Semitism may trump its &#8220;self-interest&#8221;.</p>
<p>We well know that most anti-Semitism runs counter to self-interest.</p>
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		<title>By: sababa</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sababa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[GuardianHatesJews, you complain that the closing of threads means that US Jews can&#039;t comment, and that this amounts to censoring them. But I would doubt that this is really in the interest of the Guardian: they launched their Cif America site only a year ago or so, obviously in order to get a piece of the US media pie, and the whole Cif concept is attractive because readers can post long comments and they immediately appear and are displayed in full. So for US readers who find themselves constantly barred from commenting on a certain topic, namely Israel, this will be very frustrating -- not something that is a good selling point and in the Guardian&#039;s interest. Also, they have only recently started to close threads on Israel for debate during the UK night hours, even quite early in the evening, which of course also pushes down &quot;hits&quot;, and again, this is something that is definitely NOT in their interest...

So what I&#039;m getting at is that it&#039;s entirely possible that all this is a reaction to the criticism they are getting from here -- they are simply too worried what would get posted while the mods are sleeping, and if their main worry is that there could be terribly antisemitic posts, or terribly anti-GWV posts, is a question we can only speculate about. But it&#039;s in no way in their interest to close the threads for debate.

And of course the same is true for the suggestions raised by some on various threads here: that if the pro-Israel posters stayed away, that is, if they wouldn&#039;t comment, there wouldn&#039;t be any debate, and the result would be a bit of an embarrassment: Berchie congratulating LaRit on her humane insights, Moron complimenting Ben White on trying to find ways to pretend it&#039;s just anti-Zionism, endless praise for Freedman&#039;s endless inanities, and a few others cheering along whenever somebody calls for replacing the evil &quot;Zionist entity&quot; with a democratic secular Hamastan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GuardianHatesJews, you complain that the closing of threads means that US Jews can&#8217;t comment, and that this amounts to censoring them. But I would doubt that this is really in the interest of the Guardian: they launched their Cif America site only a year ago or so, obviously in order to get a piece of the US media pie, and the whole Cif concept is attractive because readers can post long comments and they immediately appear and are displayed in full. So for US readers who find themselves constantly barred from commenting on a certain topic, namely Israel, this will be very frustrating &#8212; not something that is a good selling point and in the Guardian&#8217;s interest. Also, they have only recently started to close threads on Israel for debate during the UK night hours, even quite early in the evening, which of course also pushes down &#8220;hits&#8221;, and again, this is something that is definitely NOT in their interest&#8230;</p>
<p>So what I&#8217;m getting at is that it&#8217;s entirely possible that all this is a reaction to the criticism they are getting from here &#8212; they are simply too worried what would get posted while the mods are sleeping, and if their main worry is that there could be terribly antisemitic posts, or terribly anti-GWV posts, is a question we can only speculate about. But it&#8217;s in no way in their interest to close the threads for debate.</p>
<p>And of course the same is true for the suggestions raised by some on various threads here: that if the pro-Israel posters stayed away, that is, if they wouldn&#8217;t comment, there wouldn&#8217;t be any debate, and the result would be a bit of an embarrassment: Berchie congratulating LaRit on her humane insights, Moron complimenting Ben White on trying to find ways to pretend it&#8217;s just anti-Zionism, endless praise for Freedman&#8217;s endless inanities, and a few others cheering along whenever somebody calls for replacing the evil &#8220;Zionist entity&#8221; with a democratic secular Hamastan.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://cifwatch.com/2009/10/01/biased-anti-jewish-moderation-in-action-on-the-hirsch-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-2218</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Silver tree

I&#039;m still experimenting.  If you use Internet Explorer 8 - you can elect to us &#039;InPrivate&#039; browsing/filtering.  This lets you read Cif and the comments but you can&#039;t log-in, recommend posts or post yourself unless you enable the cookies and it is the cookies that log the &#039;hits&#039; for the benefit of the advertisers.  Cool if you just want to read the wretched thing without adding to their revenue.  

I have not yet used Firefox as I am in-between computers and can&#039;t be bothered to download anything onto this old computer.  I suspect that the same will apply to Firefox - ie the Guardian has got this sussed - but I&#039;ll let you know in due course. 

If you do want to just read and are using Internet Explorer 8, you need to do the following: 
1.  At the bottom right-hand side of the internet explorer window, you&#039;ll  find a grey symbol which looks like a padlock with an arrow and a little menu arrow by the side.
2. Press the little arrow and the menu gives you: &#039;Automatically block&#039;, &#039;choose content to block&#039;, and &#039;Off&#039; (Off is the default).  Choose &#039;Automatically block&#039;. The padlock turns from grey to yellow and the overarching arrow turns from grey to green. Then go onto CiF.
2. You may get a little box saying something like &#039;do you want to allow/enable cookies?&#039; and you have to keep pressing &#039;block&#039; until that little box goes away. Persist in saying you want to block the cookies (it may take several goes with several of these boxes).  You can then read the article and the comments without being logged by the various Guardian tracking cookies.  But as I said - you can&#039;t log in/recommend or post.  

As usual with microsoft there are other ways of finding the &#039;private browsing&#039; menu/control - eg at the top right hand of the window in &#039;Safety&#039;.  Play around with it.

You have to disable the private browsing function when you go onto other sites unless you want to keep having to press those little boxes asking you if you want to block or allow the various cookies most of the sites have.  

Search for more info by googling &#039;private browsing internet explorer&#039;...

I&#039;ll let you all know if I find another way - but I doubt I will.  At least you can now read the articles without adding to their profits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silver tree</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still experimenting.  If you use Internet Explorer 8 &#8211; you can elect to us &#8216;InPrivate&#8217; browsing/filtering.  This lets you read Cif and the comments but you can&#8217;t log-in, recommend posts or post yourself unless you enable the cookies and it is the cookies that log the &#8216;hits&#8217; for the benefit of the advertisers.  Cool if you just want to read the wretched thing without adding to their revenue.  </p>
<p>I have not yet used Firefox as I am in-between computers and can&#8217;t be bothered to download anything onto this old computer.  I suspect that the same will apply to Firefox &#8211; ie the Guardian has got this sussed &#8211; but I&#8217;ll let you know in due course. </p>
<p>If you do want to just read and are using Internet Explorer 8, you need to do the following:<br />
1.  At the bottom right-hand side of the internet explorer window, you&#8217;ll  find a grey symbol which looks like a padlock with an arrow and a little menu arrow by the side.<br />
2. Press the little arrow and the menu gives you: &#8216;Automatically block&#8217;, &#8216;choose content to block&#8217;, and &#8216;Off&#8217; (Off is the default).  Choose &#8216;Automatically block&#8217;. The padlock turns from grey to yellow and the overarching arrow turns from grey to green. Then go onto CiF.<br />
2. You may get a little box saying something like &#8216;do you want to allow/enable cookies?&#8217; and you have to keep pressing &#8216;block&#8217; until that little box goes away. Persist in saying you want to block the cookies (it may take several goes with several of these boxes).  You can then read the article and the comments without being logged by the various Guardian tracking cookies.  But as I said &#8211; you can&#8217;t log in/recommend or post.  </p>
<p>As usual with microsoft there are other ways of finding the &#8216;private browsing&#8217; menu/control &#8211; eg at the top right hand of the window in &#8216;Safety&#8217;.  Play around with it.</p>
<p>You have to disable the private browsing function when you go onto other sites unless you want to keep having to press those little boxes asking you if you want to block or allow the various cookies most of the sites have.  </p>
<p>Search for more info by googling &#8216;private browsing internet explorer&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll let you all know if I find another way &#8211; but I doubt I will.  At least you can now read the articles without adding to their profits.</p>
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